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Off Topic => Engineering => Topic started by: toasty0 on August 07, 2008, 08:42:29 am

Title: Hey Nem
Post by: toasty0 on August 07, 2008, 08:42:29 am
Yesterday I participated in a round table for Red Hat on how to best deliver training for RH and RDH.  :angel:
Title: Re: Hey Nem
Post by: Nemesis on August 07, 2008, 11:41:01 am
Who was sponsoring it?  Who were the other panel members and what were their qualifications?
Title: Re: Hey Nem
Post by: toasty0 on August 07, 2008, 03:43:43 pm
Quote from: IKV Nemesis on August 07, 2008, 11:41:01 am
Who was sponsoring it?  Who were the other panel members and what were their qualifications?

JBoss was the sponsor.

Title: Re: Hey Nem
Post by: Nemesis on August 07, 2008, 04:19:43 pm
Since JBoss was bought by Redhat that means Redhat was the sponsor.
Title: Re: Hey Nem
Post by: Bonk on August 07, 2008, 10:05:53 pm
Quote from: toasty0 on August 07, 2008, 08:42:29 am
Yesterday I participated in a round table for Red Hat on how to best deliver training for RH and RDH.  :angel:


Easy, simply direct your trainees to http://www.slackware.com/   ;D :flame:

I've had bad experiences with Red Hat and Fedora. They are just too much of a departure from traditional *nixes for me. Building anything from source on Fedora is a real pain (more so than usual). I find even BSDs closer to *nix than Fedora.

The one piece of advice I can give is to tell new users to turn off the automatic filesystem search index. If you unpack a few source distributions, build them and try to run a server then watch as the machine is I/O bound by the search index grinding the disk constantly. Perhaps they have had the sense to disable it by default since I last worked with it in 2003.

Besides, the whole "Pro" version leaves a bad taste in my mouth. That's not OSS by my definition. Uless Red Hat is available for free now? Or is it just the buggy beta testbed known as Fedora? (sorry, had to vent there.)
Title: Re: Hey Nem
Post by: toasty0 on August 07, 2008, 11:05:25 pm
Quote from: IKV Nemesis on August 07, 2008, 04:19:43 pm
Since JBoss was bought by Redhat that means Redhat was the sponsor.

Is there some point you want to make? If there is, I've missed it.
Title: Re: Hey Nem
Post by: Nemesis on August 08, 2008, 06:00:48 am
Quote from: toasty0 on August 07, 2008, 11:05:25 pm
Quote from: IKV Nemesis on August 07, 2008, 04:19:43 pm
Since JBoss was bought by Redhat that means Redhat was the sponsor.

Is there some point you want to make? If there is, I've missed it.

Just clarifying things.  Not everyone will know that JBoss is part of Redhat.  Who sponsors an event can be significant.  For one thing it can show a bias - either for or against.  If there was a bias here it would be for, which can be as bad as against.
Title: Re: Hey Nem
Post by: toasty0 on August 08, 2008, 08:23:05 am
Quote from: IKV Nemesis on August 08, 2008, 06:00:48 am
Quote from: toasty0 on August 07, 2008, 11:05:25 pm
Quote from: IKV Nemesis on August 07, 2008, 04:19:43 pm
Since JBoss was bought by Redhat that means Redhat was the sponsor.

Is there some point you want to make? If there is, I've missed it.

Just clarifying things.  Not everyone will know that JBoss is part of Redhat.  Who sponsors an event can be significant.  For one thing it can show a bias - either for or against.  If there was a bias here it would be for, which can be as bad as against.

I would think the fact this round table was about delivering training the bias for was implied.