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jdmckinney

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SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« on: May 16, 2003, 06:20:23 pm »
Though I had to remove a small group of the novelty Evil Dave missions due to apparent bugs, everything seems in order. All players will need the OP Plus Refit Shiplist (and ftrlist.txt) v2.1c and the latest Evil Dave OP Mission Pack. Both are available at SFCX.org.

Please wipe your feet on the welcome mat and make sure your weapons are primed. Happy hunting!

Welcome to Tech Wars, an SFCX campaign on Orion Pirates.

jdmckinney

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2003, 08:58:45 pm »
So far, so good. We had a minor server burp, but missions are going well. Shipyards are producing pretty good (saw up to a dozen ships in ISC yard regularly). There were 7 other players of various races on when I left, and others had been on earlier.

I'm done for the night, but if you see something that needs attention, post a note so Castrin can see it.

Happy flying.

Cleaven

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2003, 11:36:23 pm »
Are L-PFE's supposed to cost 466? Ouch!  

Kurok

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2003, 01:01:59 am »
 Been running great so far. Been HAving a blast with these missions.
 Kurok  

jimmi7769

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2003, 01:05:37 am »
Quote:

Are L-PFE's supposed to cost 466? Ouch!  




Yeah, thats what they cost me on Badlands.  Better conserve them like they're made of Gold....cause they are.

Cleaven

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2003, 06:40:19 am »
Okay then, I can deal.  

jdmckinney

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2003, 07:39:13 am »
I'll look into the PF costs.

By the way, server had gone down sometime while I was asleep. It's back up now.

Cleaven

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2003, 07:52:18 am »
Actually it's been up for the last 6 hours, but I just lost connection about 20 min ago. Then it came up again after a min.  

Hondo_8

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2003, 10:57:30 am »
Tried out last night for the first time, but I encountered several problems maybe.

I flew as a Fed, co-oped with a hydran, and three succesfull missions and no change to the DV.

Ran a solo mission in a LC and drafted two HC One of the Heavies was pretty decked out (one of the new Klinks foret its name) Seemed a little two tuff, or It could have been my rust showing.

second mission in a FFGR drafted one Heavy Cruiser and a Frigate, had a Hydran frigate as an ally,. I blew up by what must have been a collision with an invisable astroid.


The misssions I was co-oping were drafted by a hydran frigate and that frigate was drafting in two Frigates, so It made me wonder about me pulling in ships two classes bigger then me.  Had fun though Excpet for the invisable astriod.

jdmckinney

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2003, 01:46:51 pm »
Neutral coop is still, and will be for the foreseeable future, a quirky thing. It will sometimes work, but mostly will not. As for the difficulty of the matchups, that could be a result of you being high in a BPV range where the enemy doesn't have much close to you other than those bigger ships. Try a different front against another enemy, and see what you get against them.

I still can't get into the server remotely, so if it's not up, hopefully Castrin will be back to look in on it soon.

Cleaven

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2003, 05:25:39 pm »
Some extra info.

Logged on as Lyran, and started running co-op with the only Klingon.
I was drafting in my FF.
DV was dropping and PP was accumulating in hex,10,10.
DV was low but stopped dropping. What the hell, one more time.  
Draft again into Fleet mission but get host left new host, bugger.
Never mind this will be quick play it through.
Come out of mission. I get forfeit (no surprise), and DV drops and flips to Klingon.
Is there no justice (it was a 50 DV hex)?    
« Last Edit: May 18, 2003, 05:26:54 pm by Cleaven »

IndyShark

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2003, 06:11:50 pm »
Tech Wars may be live but the server is down. Nomad, can you give the server a shove please? Thanks!

 

Dharma the Cat

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2003, 06:27:59 pm »
I seem to have some problem with the missionpacks for OP. Started on Badlands, now on the TECHWARS server, it works fine for anywhere for 15 minutes to an hour or so, then my computer totally locks up, can't do anything but shut down the power and restart. Only happens with these missionpacks on OP, never had any problem before playing EAW or OP. Any ideas about why/what the problem is? Thanks...
 

Cleaven

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2003, 06:40:22 pm »
Well I heard that on Sat too, from somebody who was saying they couldn't move or anything (chat worked), but the rest of us were okay.

I'm running XP Pro. Maybe there is a leak somewhere?  

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2003, 07:25:28 pm »
I haven't experienced this issue.  The one time I heard people talking about not being able to move, the server crashed shortly thereafter.  


I was on last night when it went down.  It hasn't gone back up since, either.  Tis a shame..i load loads of playing time, today.  


I've experienced normal operation on Tech Wars without any problems other than the server crashing every so often.



 

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2003, 07:43:18 pm »
I wish someone would bloody reboot the Tech Wars server so I could continue my quest for a C7.  Damnit...  




jdmckinney

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2003, 08:06:59 pm »
Very sorry about the downtime, but I absolutely cannot access the server. Until Castrin is home to fix it, we're out of luck.

As for the problem reported, we'll need more data on that. I've not had any problems with the mission pack, either. If it's related to the server, I wonder if something is causing the server kit to crash? Too soon to know.

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2003, 08:22:53 pm »
Now where did I put my Capt. Castrin voodoo doll...?   Hmm....



 

IndyShark

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2003, 08:34:04 pm »
Augh! My D7W is a lot of fun! I forgot how much I love playing Klingon! Disruptors, phasers, transporters, scatterpacks, drones and .....Oh yeah!,  glass sheilds! Now I remember! hehe

Dogmatix, which CA do you like the best? D7W or DWC? Is there another I should check out?

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2003, 08:38:28 pm »
Quote:

Augh! My D7W is a lot of fun! I forgot how much I love playing Klingon! Disruptors, phasers, transporters, scatterpacks, drones and .....Oh yeah!,  glass sheilds! Now I remember! hehe

Dogmatix, which CA do you like the best? D7W or DWC? Is there another I should check out?  





IF i'm going to fly a D7 hull..and I rarely do....the D7W is the best of the lot.  The DWC is on the D5 hull, and to me..clearly the best of that line is the D5L.  Best power curve by far....and pretty well-armed, to boot...


 

IndyShark

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2003, 08:40:47 pm »
Cool, thanks. I will try the D5L


....I tried it. I LOVE it. Great power curve and fire arcs. My D7W is history when I can buy one of these. Now when I can afford a C7....
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CptCastrin

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2003, 09:15:21 pm »
Server is back up. Sorry was out of town and my agenda was not under my control (guys with GFs or wives will understand ).

gl gh and hf!!  

Cleaven

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2003, 04:58:10 am »
Please Sir, may I have a mission?

Drawing no missions in enemy, friendly or neutral hexes.  

jdmckinney

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2003, 05:50:41 am »
I just restarted the server. It was definitely spinning its wheels on something. It should be working now (gave me a mission when I checked in).

Dharma the Cat

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2003, 07:59:41 am »
Quote:

Well I heard that on Sat too, from somebody who was saying they couldn't move or anything (chat worked), but the rest of us were okay.

I'm running XP Pro. Maybe there is a leak somewhere?    




To clarify my problem a bit, this is not the "no movement" you get sometimes when the server is about to crash. This is a problem while in mission. everything is fine, then there is usually a "skip" effect in  the video. This is immediately followed by what is apparently a video freeze-up on my computer. All I'm able to do when it occurs is move my mouse - it is not locked-up. My keyboard has no effect, so I can't ctrl-alt-del  to exit the game or anything else. I've waited as much as 15 minutes for it to "unfreeze" with no luck. My only way out of it is a cold reboot directly from that point. That is to say, securing my computer improperly....

I have Windows 2000. No problems in any other EAW servers or OP servers, that's the only reason I suspected the missionpacks.  If there isn't anyone else having the problem, I'll presume it's just my computer that doesn't like something here.

Anyhow the server seems real good othrewise, good mission matching and the missions are nicely varied.      

Cleaven

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2003, 08:34:55 am »
No keyboard, including the funky Windows key?  
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FatherTed

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Re: SFCX: TECH WARS Is Live!
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2003, 10:31:01 am »
Quote:

Quote:

Well I heard that on Sat too, from somebody who was saying they couldn't move or anything (chat worked), but the rest of us were okay.

I'm running XP Pro. Maybe there is a leak somewhere?    




To clarify my problem a bit, this is not the "no movement" you get sometimes when the server is about to crash. This is a problem while in mission. everything is fine, then there is usually a "skip" effect in  the video. This is immediately followed by what is apparently a video freeze-up on my computer. All I'm able to do when it occurs is move my mouse - it is not locked-up. My keyboard has no effect, so I can't ctrl-alt-del  to exit the game or anything else. I've waited as much as 15 minutes for it to "unfreeze" with no luck. My only way out of it is a cold reboot directly from that point. That is to say, securing my computer improperly....

I have Windows 2000. No problems in any other EAW servers or OP servers, that's the only reason I suspected the missionpacks.  If there isn't anyone else having the problem, I'll presume it's just my computer that doesn't like something here.

Anyhow the server seems real good othrewise, good mission matching and the missions are nicely varied.      




You might be getting a popup ad. Usually when that happens to me, everything locks up and I have to reboot my computer. Also, some virus programs love to update automatically while you're in the middle of a battle, causing the same thing. Shut off any other programs that might be running, and get, or run, one of the Spam buster programs available, like Ad Aware before you log onto the D2. Also, some ISP's, like AOL, are horrible on this count. Since I switched to cable back in February, the problem has virtually disappeared.  

RogueJedi_XC

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Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2003, 09:22:08 pm »
Is it possible to throw in  some non-kill-you-fast missions? I mean something that a rusty old hand like me, coming back from SFC III, can use to flake off the rust?

I mean, I took 4 missions. Won one by the skin of my  teeth by the good graces of the enemy AI ignoring me and going after my random AI  partner. The other three I lost miserably, losing my ship in one of them. Yes, I lost my ship...to an AI. The shame is almost too much to bear. I'm now stuck in a freighter until I can afford at least a CLZ (didn't see anything smaller last time I was logged in that was worth having in these ED missions).

I guess what I'm saying is "take pity on me, please!"  

And to think I used to chuckle with glee when an Evil Dave mission came up! Now I have to run from most of them. Sheesh.    

Cleaven

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2003, 10:03:21 pm »
Well, I've been meaning to say that I thought the missions, on the most part, were pretty good, taking about 5-8 min for a good win. Some missions are as short as three min, but  five is a good average. Except for one bad case of a Fleet mission in friendly space. Very rugged, five to three with weak help that soon became four to one. I left.

Admittedly this has only been based on Lyran Vs Mirak missions, and I have adopted a policy of flying wingman for my AI (since he won't follow me). Also I have been flying CL's and smaller so maybe that is important too. ie staying in the bottom part of the AI oppositions available opposition.

What I mean is that there may be some issues on the other side of the map, but where I am, the matching is very good, considering the time taken, PP earned, and suitablity for co-op i.e. when I co-op the missions are quicker and more profitable thereby promoting co-op play. Kzinti players Vs Lyran AI may have a different view?  

Mog

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2003, 10:16:11 pm »
My first impression from earlier today was that missions seemed tough, for the first 2 or 3, then they got more managable. This continues the pattern I've noted when I'm new to a server. RJ, just give it a bit of geting used to, or do some co-op in non-neutral space with any ally you can find.

NuclearWessels

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2003, 10:19:12 pm »
Quote:

Is it possible to throw in  some non-kill-you-fast missions? I mean something that a rusty old hand like me, coming back from SFC III, can use to flake off the rust?

I mean, I took 4 missions. Won one by the skin of my  teeth by the good graces of the enemy AI ignoring me and going after my random AI  partner. The other three I lost miserably, losing my ship in one of them. Yes, I lost my ship...to an AI. The shame is almost too much to bear. I'm now stuck in a freighter until I can afford at least a CLZ (didn't see anything smaller last time I was logged in that was worth having in these ED missions).

I guess what I'm saying is "take pity on me, please!"  

And to think I used to chuckle with glee when an Evil Dave mission came up! Now I have to run from most of them. Sheesh.      




Hmmm - the difficulty settings in most of the mission scripts haven't been changed in a fair while now (or have been downgraded in the couple of cases they did get changed) so most of the variation from server to server now comes from the server difficulty settings themselves.  I think  a difficulty rating of .9 has been used on the last few, but not sure if that's still in place or not.

It is also possible to run into a sweet/sour spot in the shiplist once in awhile - where the opposition likely to be drafted for your current ship tends to be at the low or high end of the available range.  E.g. suppose the mission says you're supposed to be drafting ships from your size to 1.5 times your size, but the enemy shiplist currently has a lot of ships close to the 1.5 end and few close to the 1.0 end, then you might be in for a lot of drafting misery in your ship for the next couple of years.

Just guesses,
dave
 

RogueJedi_XC

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2003, 10:46:18 pm »
The missions haven't gotten harder, Dave, my skills have just eroded so badly that I feel like a total newbie out there.

Co-op would be great, but when I logged on yesterday I was the only ISC and no one seemed inclined to speak. When I logged in Saturday co-op was the furthest from my mind. I just wanted to get out there and fire up that PPD for the first time in months.  

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2003, 10:54:24 pm »
I'll tell ya what, RJ.  SFC3 ruins you for a while when you try to come back to SFC2.  Every time I played SFC3 for any length of time, my timing would be off and I'd get hammered when I came back to SFC2.  Hang in there, you'll get the proper reflexes back...


 

Cleaven

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2003, 05:51:32 am »
"Please, sir, I want some more."

The admin was a fat, healthy man; but he turned very pale. He gazed in stupefied astonishment on the small rebel for some seconds; and then clung for support to the copper. The assistants were paralysed with wonder; the players with fear.

"What!" said the admin at length, in a faint voice.

"Please, sir," replied Cleaven, "I want some more."

The admin aimed a blow at Cleaven's head with the ladle; pinioned him in his arms; and shrieked aloud for the beadle.

The board were sitting in solemn conclave, when Mr. Nomad rushed into the room in great excitement, and addressing the gentleman in the high chair, said,

"Mr. Castrin, I beg your pardon, sir! Cleaven has asked for more!"

There was a general start. Horror was depicted on every countenance.
 

Mog

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2003, 06:03:28 am »
Rofl, Cleaven. I've emailed Nomad and Castrin about it - waiting myself for it to come back up - I'm off work for a week too, so I'm sat twiddling my thumbs for the time being.

Cleaven

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2003, 06:11:21 am »
GSA?
 3 hours 'til sack time.  

jdmckinney

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2003, 07:40:25 am »
LOL.

Unfortunately, Castrin does have to sleep. Emerald Edge can sometimes babysit, but if the problem prevents remote access, there's nothing he or I can do. At the moment (and usually once a week for a night or two), I'm away from home on business. I can't access anything at night from the hotel, and can't remotely access the server at all until I'm home again.

Sorry for the interruptions in service.

RJ, I'm flying ISC when I'm on, so if you see me out there Wed. night (or later in the week), I'd love to fly your wing. I'm not the best ISC pilot, but I've got the 2v2 patrols vs. Gorn opposition in the nearby nebula down pat. The CMZ is certainly flexible for different tactics. Mainly I've been surviving by letting my AI wing eat most of the plasma. With the nebula effect, I can usually win with minimal damage, and the missions go faster because shields are pink at best. By the way, what are you stuck flying now?

I'm not against people creating new accounts to get a fresh start if they've lost ships and most of their prestige getting reacclimated. The server is supposed to be fun, and I know from experience how tough it can be to relearn the old skills. We are using the .9 BPV modifier for difficulty, but as always, Dave is right -- you can get unlucky draws depending on what's available in the range.

See you all out there sometime soon. Thanks for playing (when the server kit is in a good mood).

Cleaven

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2003, 09:20:48 am »
It's cool.  

CptCastrin

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Re: Minor Request regarding missons
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2003, 09:39:30 am »
Quote:

... The board were sitting in solemn conclave, when Mr. Nomad rushed into the room in great excitement, and addressing the gentleman in the high chair, said,

"Mr. Castrin, I beg your pardon, sir! Cleaven has asked for more!"

There was a general start. Horror was depicted on every countenance.




ROFLMAO!!!

Oh, owe, I think I hurt something.

Too funny Cleaven, after yesterday I needed a good laugh. Thanks.

...

Castrin trundels over (he really didn't understand the need for a FULL morph into Hydran form but Nomad said it' was good for building character) and looks at Cleaven through his three eyes.

"Go ahead and give him more. Better if he was fattened up for later." ,Castrin hisses (hisses?! grrr).

Turning, Castrin heads back to the room.

"It's your deal Emerald ..." is heard as the doors sigh shut.