OK, It's been a LOOOONG while since I posted, and I'm suprised my account is still active...
Anyways-
Brez - I recognized the Tholian models immediately, and was frankly extremely happy to finally see them getting some use!!! So many great models done in this community end up going by the wayside - never finding regular use. This is sad, as you guys put a lot of work into these and there really should be an easier way for people to enjoy all this hard work. I know that I particularly enjoyed showing off your TDN (with credits to you of course) flying next to the Robotech models a while back!
More than a few here in the D2 forum are very much looking forward to trying new things (i.e. Tholians) in SG3, and I am happy that you found it in your heart to let these people enjoy your handiwork, even though you and Dizzy may not see eye to eye.
So, in short, yes Dizzy crossed a line here, which he apologized for, so thank you for allowing the D2 community to use your models in SG3. These are awesome models and need to be seen in action - as often as possible!
Thanks for listening!
EOJ
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Dizzy - I've been a fan of the Slave Girls server/storyline for a while now, even though I haven't been able to find the time to play on your server yet. I was also overjoyed to hear that someone finally decided to take a crack at Tholians, as I have fond memories of playing them in SFB. Nonetheless, I do think you owe Brez a courtesy here that has been overlooked.
While I agree that the readme says "use these babies!", the rule of thumb in the modeling community (as explained to me) is that you get written permission to host someone elses' models before hosting them on your own server. Otherwise, you should be directed to the source to grab these. There are a number of reasons for this, and the modeling community knows these better than most of us. Besides, this gives the modeler in question some 'free advertising' while you grab the models off of his site, bringing attention to his skills as a modeler.
The second courtesy that was overlooked (thank you for apologizing for this) is the texture modification thing. The modeling community is VERY ADAMANT about not publicly modding other peoples models (excepting stock Taldren models) without first getting permission to do so. While I'm sure that some people may modify their models privately, posting those modifications publicly (and/or making them publicly available) without publicly crediting the original modeler and having his permission to do so is (as was pointed out) consicered bad form.
I very much appreciate seeing your apology for this!
EOJ
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Edit: I somehow missed page 2 earlier, so I didn't see the OK. Sorry for digging this up. I edited the post above to reflect this fact, and so that others might not make this mistake at a later date.
And I apologize for dropping in after the fact. No one likes to reopen old wounds more than me... and I like both Dizzy and Brezgonne/Dan hence my need to post!
Back to your regularly scheduled D2 chat!