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Dizzy

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My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« on: May 11, 2003, 02:23:21 am »
F-GSC/CVL:


F-CVS:


Only problem is... The links have been down... an awful long time. Does anyone know where I cant get these models?

Thae last time Eras of War was updated was about 1 1/2 ago...  Eras of War
 

TheMaverick

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2003, 04:07:56 am »
Looks sharp... I will have to go get those I am sure they will be much more fun to blow up.

wanderer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2003, 08:00:31 am »

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2003, 08:07:15 am »
I emailed Nightstorm about getting the complete model dl going again....

Maxillius

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2003, 08:11:22 am »
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Here ya go, Diz...  http://www.nightsoftware.com/erasofwar/shipyard.html  




Hey, wanderer, it's a null page.

wanderer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2003, 08:17:01 am »
 
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 Hey, wanderer, it's a null page.



That's weird, seems to work fine for me.    

Edit-Ah, I see the problem now, I was only going to the front page. It would seem that Nightsoft, Eras of War's parent site, it down at the moment. I would just try a little later.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2003, 08:20:01 am by wanderer »

mbday

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2003, 08:18:56 am »
Worked for me about 5 minutes ago.

wanderer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2003, 08:26:52 am »
Here's one of my personal faves for the GSC/CVL...
     

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2003, 08:34:05 am »
The site seems to be in a yo-yo state right now...

I was sort of hoping to DL them all and then pick and choose... Then I found that the big dl of high res models doesn't work ...

Now it looks like the individual models links are being finiky also.... dl'd a few but I dl's some links are coming up with File not found errors....
 

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2003, 10:21:58 am »
I've always just used stock Taldren models for Fred garbage scows....


...but I guess after a few years, I'm getting tired of blowing up the same old ugly crap over and over.  I think it's time for me to defile some "pretty" Fred ships.


I like these models, Diz.  I hope I can get my hands on them at some point.



I prefer TMP-style models to TOS and TNG, fo course.

Dizzy

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2003, 10:35:41 am »
Ya, me too dog, but I like this one in particular cuz it has a shuttle bay fore and aft. And that CVS has a nifty little photon torpedo compartment cleverly hidden underneath the secondary hull... hehe. Course... Im flying Tholian... whatta I care?

wanderer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2003, 10:54:35 am »
Hey, Diz, re; our convo about the CFS...




And the Download

   

Dizzy

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2003, 10:56:11 am »
Damn thats weird man. I D/Led that model last night.

That would be a good CFS...

Course... I dont think the CFS ever was available in a Dyna b4... was it?

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2003, 11:21:24 am »
seems to be working now.... am in the process of DL'ing a 64 meg high resolution model pack right now...

JMM

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2003, 11:29:25 am »
Problem is, with SFAS board game and ship models like the chandley class FF from hades, the feds had a FA 8 torpedo boat, not just LS bank, which really sucks... Do you think ANY military would build a CA whose main guns point only to the left?  

warsears

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2003, 11:36:11 am »
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Problem is, with SFAS board game and ship models like the chandley class FF from hades, the feds had a FA 8 torpedo boat, not just LS bank, which really sucks... Do you think ANY military would build a CA whose main guns point only to the left?  




Good point Jim you also wouldent  think a drone race would build a CVA with no drone racks.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by warsears »

jimmi7769

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2003, 11:50:40 am »
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seems to be working now.... am in the process of DL'ing a 64 meg high resolution model pack right now...  




Do you know if this has all of the models in it or just a selection of them??

and what about the OP and EAW D2 mods?? what are those??

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2003, 12:03:54 pm »
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Problem is, with SFAS board game and ship models like the chandley class FF from hades, the feds had a FA 8 torpedo boat, not just LS bank, which really sucks... Do you think ANY military would build a CA whose main guns point only to the left?  




Can I assume you mean FASA?

If so, you are talking about the ANDOR class cruiser.... but it had smaller Photons then normal cruisers did.

In FASA there were 7 types of Photon Torpedoes.  The standard one the Enterprise carried was a 20 pt photon.

The ones the Andor class carried were 8 point photons.  Its arcs were 4 FA, 1 RS, 1 LS, 2 RA.

On the bad side... it only had 2 phasers which in relations to SFC/SFB I would consider Ph3's with a FA arc.

If we could find a way to put fighter photons on that thing... it would make an interesting frigate.  

And yeah, the Chandley is one bad @ssed cruiser.  But it is not a SFB/SFC frigate....

It is really a heavy cruiser sized commando ship from hell.

FASA called it a frigate, but their idea of a frigate is our idea of a commando ship.

Using loose SFB/C to FASA conversion.... a HC (like a Constitution class) had a 4/1 power to movement, I assume this to relate to a 1:1 ratio in SFB/C.... the Chandley had 3:1 so I think it would fall into the 0.67:1 ratio for SFB. (though technically it would be 0.75 but I don't know if that is used in SFB/C)

It has great shields (on par with TMP Enterprise's shields), 4 photons (3 FA, 1 RA),  6 phasers (equivilant to Ph1's 2 FA, 2 RS, 2 LS) , and 8 'Combat' transporters...   (IIRC, SFB/C transporters transport a group of 6 Marines, is that correct?) and an additional 8 'standard' 6 person transporters.

SFB equivilant would be, what?  35 transporters using the SFB/C 6 man marine teams....   it carries 250 marines or in SFB terms, 82 Marine teams.... good luck fighting that off.... but wouldn't you love to have if for convoy raids?

Overall, this ship would be a nightmare to fight in close b/c once a shield was dropped, unless you had tons of marines to back you up.... you are done.

The drawbacks are no drone/figher defense since they were not used by FASA.... so this would be a good Rom/Gorn/Lyran front ship, but really suffer against the drone & figher using races...

Here are the stats on these two FASA ships....
 USS Chandley

 USS Andor    

Dizzy

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2003, 12:21:06 pm »
Thats weird Bearslayer...

I saw different specs on the Andor somewhere... It had 6 Phasers and 8x torps, but only 37 points of power and a move ration of .67...

Wondfer where that coulda been.

The Andor ship and model is in this DL with the specs I mentioned... I wonder now if those should be changed?

 

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2003, 12:29:48 pm »
Yeah, someone made a FASA shiplist for SFCII... but it is kind of out there... as with all translations, somethings are good, some are bad, and some are just plain ugly.... (ie TOO good for your enemies, but not for you!! Such as the Chandley class)

As for the hull size, you need to check the class size...  Both the Enterprise class and Chandley Class are Class XI (ie tonnage range of 140K to 180K tons IIRC)

I have a excel file with them on it, I will send it to you if you wish. PM me, email or what not....  

Also, if you want the orignal stats go here...

http://www.sub-odeon.com/stsstcsmua/index.html
« Last Edit: May 11, 2003, 12:44:41 pm by Bearslayer »

Dizzy

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2003, 12:42:34 am »
Damnit! Their website is down for maintenance!!!!

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2003, 05:33:35 am »
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Thats weird Bearslayer...

I saw different specs on the Andor somewhere... It had 6 Phasers and 8x torps, but only 37 points of power and a move ration of .67...

Wondfer where that coulda been.

The Andor ship and model is in this DL with the specs I mentioned... I wonder now if those should be changed?

 




LOL... went over that list again this morning...wow... the stats for the FASA Fed ships are whacked....  the Chandley is ok but the other 'frigates' (ie Commando ships) obviously were not liked as well b/c they got shafted....

This person also set things up for OP....  somethings have PhX's and HPT's.

Sheesh.... As for the Andor Stats, I would go with what they have, but drop the Ph1's to Ph3's and possibly reduce the # from 6 to 2 with one 360 mount.

If you are gonna include the Chandley, you need to drop the HPT's to normal photon and reduce to 4 tubes.  The PhX's will course, need to be dropped to Ph1's.  The FARA phaser mount needs to be dropped also.  so 6 Ph1's in a FA, RS, LS config.

I would probably up the transporters to 6, but leave the marines at 60 max.

Other than that, I won't argue about the power or movement ratio.

But you may want to look at the shields on the Andor (182).... they are listed as better then the Enterprise's and the Chandley's. (138 each)

Dizzy

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2003, 09:52:50 am »
Bear, wait till u see what I did with the Andor. Then we can decide. Id rather have the aAndor than the CFS... Andor is kinda fun...

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2003, 10:51:16 am »
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Problem is, with SFAS board game and ship models like the chandley class FF from hades, the feds had a FA 8 torpedo boat, not just LS bank, which really sucks... Do you think ANY military would build a CA whose main guns point only to the left?  




Good point Jim you also wouldent  think a drone race would build a CVA with no drone racks.  






Hmm....


 

Dizzy

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2003, 11:00:41 am »
Ya, lol tell that to a klink!

Hey, I found my Fed CVA+!

   

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2003, 11:09:17 am »
I thought that was a fed early DN

warsears

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2003, 12:28:27 pm »
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Problem is, with SFAS board game and ship models like the chandley class FF from hades, the feds had a FA 8 torpedo boat, not just LS bank, which really sucks... Do you think ANY military would build a CA whose main guns point only to the left?  




Good point Jim you also wouldent  think a drone race would build a CVA with no drone racks.  






Hmm....


 




C8VK doggy  

jimmi7769

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2003, 12:35:13 pm »
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Problem is, with SFAS board game and ship models like the chandley class FF from hades, the feds had a FA 8 torpedo boat, not just LS bank, which really sucks... Do you think ANY military would build a CA whose main guns point only to the left?  




Good point Jim you also wouldent  think a drone race would build a CVA with no drone racks.  






Hmm....


 




C8VK doggy  




I'd still argue that since the Klingons don't get PF's(and the C8S) then the C8VK would have the same updates that the C8S space control ship got, which was to replace the 2 ADD's with G-Racks.

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2003, 12:37:38 pm »
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I thought that was a fed early DN  




What ever it is... it sure is ugly.... even compared to you  

 

jimmi7769

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2003, 12:39:44 pm »
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I thought that was a fed early DN  




What ever it is... it sure is ugly.... even compared to you  

 




Now come on Bearslayer who you trying to fool.....Ain't nothing THAT ugly, even Fed Metal.

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2003, 12:43:38 pm »
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I thought that was a fed early DN  




What ever it is... it sure is ugly.... even compared to you  

 




Now come on Bearslayer who you trying to fool.....Ain't nothing THAT ugly, even Fed Metal.  




LOL.... I was trying to make him feel 'pretty'..... *cough, gag, choke*

Ok... Ok.... so I am a terrible liar....  

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2003, 12:59:14 pm »
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I thought that was a fed early DN  




What ever it is... it sure is ugly.... even compared to you  

 




Now come on Bearslayer who you trying to fool.....Ain't nothing THAT ugly, even Fed Metal.  




LOL.... I was trying to make him feel 'pretty'..... *cough, gag, choke*

Ok... Ok.... so I am a terrible liar....    




OK girls, you better watchout for the Gorn BF on your number 4.

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2003, 01:02:14 pm »
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Problem is, with SFAS board game and ship models like the chandley class FF from hades, the feds had a FA 8 torpedo boat, not just LS bank, which really sucks... Do you think ANY military would build a CA whose main guns point only to the left?  




Good point Jim you also wouldent  think a drone race would build a CVA with no drone racks.  






Hmm....


 




C8VK doggy  





Heh..I know.

My "Hmm.."  was a sarcastic and very tongue-in-cheek "Hmm..."



 

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2003, 01:03:28 pm »
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I thought that was a fed early DN  




What ever it is... it sure is ugly.... even compared to you  

 




Now come on Bearslayer who you trying to fool.....Ain't nothing THAT ugly, even Fed Metal.  




LOL.... I was trying to make him feel 'pretty'..... *cough, gag, choke*

Ok... Ok.... so I am a terrible liar....    




OK girls, you better watchout for the Gorn BF on your number 4.  




Better get those T-Bombs ready then.... cause I think we are on the same side....

jimmi7769

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2003, 01:09:15 pm »
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I thought that was a fed early DN  




What ever it is... it sure is ugly.... even compared to you  

 




Now come on Bearslayer who you trying to fool.....Ain't nothing THAT ugly, even Fed Metal.  




LOL.... I was trying to make him feel 'pretty'..... *cough, gag, choke*

Ok... Ok.... so I am a terrible liar....    




OK girls, you better watchout for the Gorn BF on your number 4.  




Better get those T-Bombs ready then.... cause I think we are on the same side....  




I'm not, I've got The T-Bombs and plenty of transporters to make good use of them.

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2003, 01:24:50 pm »
Looks like I am going to have to start a Kroma BF list. Much like the Dizzy kill list, only this one will require you to proclaim my beauty on the public forum if you want cab fare to the border after I have had my way with you.

jimmi7769

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2003, 01:31:35 pm »
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Looks like I am going to have to start a Kroma BF list. Much like the Dizzy kill list, only this one will require you to proclaim my beauty on the public forum if you want cab fare to the border after I have had my way with you.  




Gosh, a choice between that or Death, I think I'll choose death thank you very much.  

Not that I'll have to worry about that.....Dead Man....er Lizard....

Dizzy

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2003, 01:33:24 pm »
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Looks like I am going to have to start a Kroma BF list. Much like the Dizzy kill list, only this one will require you to proclaim my beauty on the public forum if you want cab fare to the border after I have had my way with you.  




DAMN!!!

Sfaret

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2003, 03:43:31 pm »
Kroma,

I just might love you. The BF is a ROCKING ship, easily one of the best in the game. I love flying them!!!  Don't get me wrong the BCH is great but I will still take a BF any day :-)

S'faret

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2003, 03:58:44 pm »
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Kroma,

I just might love you. The BF is a ROCKING ship, easily one of the best in the game. I love flying them!!!  Don't get me wrong the BCH is great but I will still take a BF any day :-)

S'faret  




There is a Gorn ship called the BF? Wow that is so cool.  

jimmi7769

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2003, 03:59:50 pm »
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Kroma,

I just might love you. The BF is a ROCKING ship, easily one of the best in the game. I love flying them!!!  Don't get me wrong the BCH is great but I will still take a BF any day :-)

S'faret  




There is a Gorn ship called the BF? Wow that is so cool.    





Man, that is just wrong...........

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: My new favorite F-CVS, GSC and CVL models...
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2003, 10:03:56 pm »
SFB Hydran heavy hits SFB ISC heavy with hellbore.