Topic: FINALLY..... now I can give my opinion about the VOYAGER series! (Read 3260 times)

Magnum357 · « **on:** May 11, 2003, 02:09:11 am »

I remember a couple years ago how much contraversy their was between DS9 and VOY on this board and how people argued in which series was better. I liked DS9 a lot and was able to watch VOY only from Season 1 through 3 until UPN took over the series. Apparently, where I live, we don't carry UPN so from seasons 4 through 7 I was not able to watch a single episode in those 4 years or the years after. Just recently of the past 4 months, my brother was able to get a hold of a person that recorded the entire seires where she use to live, but unfortunetly she only had about 90% of all the episodes from Seasons 4 through 7 and they where REALLY mixed up in order. It took my brother and I from early January until tonight to get all episodes in the right order and actually enjoy the seires on episode at a time.

I finally got to the last episode tonight, and although I still think the finally needed a little more substance it was very good in my opinion. As a matter of fact, I liked seasons 4 through 7 much better then seasons 1 through 3 mostly because the episodes made better sense then the first 3 in many cases. And I finally saw Seven of Nine for the first time. Holy cow! No wonder all the males in Star Trek where talking about her! That actress is very atractive, but as I heard the Actor of Tuvok, I think the clothing might have been a little unessessary. Also, speaking of Tuvok, I think out of all the series, I think he is the best Vulcan of all. Great job by that actor. Ok, maybe the Borg where a little less scary and seemed different, but they still gave me a chill down my spine on every episode they where on.

As for the Final Episode, I'm still a little confused on a couple of issues (like is the borg collective still in existance or is it in disaray right now?) and the episode looks like it might have been rushed a little, but overall it wasn't too bad. Also, now I know why everyone was bragging about those "Transphasic" Torpedoes, those puppies pack one hell of a punch! Also, what kind of Armor is that that Voyager used? Is that some sort of Holographic Armor or something?

Anyway, I got so excited tonight, I had to make my comments about the series. Over the past couple of years I had given the series kind of a bad rap... so I kinda wanted to express my apologies. Although I think Voyager could probably use some improvements in some places, it was definitly not as bad as I had expected it too be like the first 3 seasons. I tip my hat to the cast of the show. Nice job people.

The_Pelican · « **Reply #1 on:** May 11, 2003, 05:12:07 am »

The armour is called Ablative Armour, which is actually fitted onto both the USS Defiant (20cm) & the Sovereign Class (10cm). It's incredibly durable armour, you need very little to resist severe impacts. The stuff fitted to Voyager was self-generating, and probably something like 1/2 metre think.

And all Voyager bashers should watch Seasons 4-7, as they were 10 times better than 1-3. Besides, if you really hate Voyager, you can watch it get trashed in Year of Hell.

Alidar Jarok · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2003, 07:43:26 am »

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The armour is called Ablative Armour, which is actually fitted onto both the USS Defiant (20cm) & the Sovereign Class (10cm). It's incredibly durable armour, you need very little to resist severe impacts. The stuff fitted to Voyager was self-generating, and probably something like 1/2 metre think.

And all Voyager bashers should watch Seasons 4-7, as they were 10 times better than 1-3. Besides, if you really hate Voyager, you can watch it get trashed in Year of Hell.

There was someting that bothered me with "The Yeaar of Hell"

Shouldn't Kes have been there?

Didn't she prophesize it?

Why didn't they at least mention her?

The_Pelican · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2003, 08:19:24 am »

Because she quit the show, which kinda screwed up their planning.

Plus she mentioned the year of hell in the future I believe (she was going backwards through time). Plus everything that happened was erased anyway.

Time Travel, whose dumb idea was that.......... theoretically, if time travel was possible, you couldn't alter the past at all. You couldn't go back in time and change something, because it's the past, you were meant to go back and change something. The good old temporal paradox. "What if you went back in time and killed yourself, you'd never have used the time machine in the future, so you could never have gone back in time, so how could you have killed yourself?"

Harabic · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2003, 05:34:33 pm »

Time Travel, whose dumb idea was that.......... theoretically, if time travel was possible, you couldn't alter the past at all. You couldn't go back in time and change something, because it's the past, you were meant to go back and change something. The good old temporal paradox. "What if you went back in time and killed yourself, you'd never have used the time machine in the future, so you could never have gone back in time, so how could you have killed yourself?"

Thank you for the headache

Magnum357 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2003, 01:06:25 am »

On one final note. I've seen in all three series (TNG, DS9 and now VOY) that star Fleet uses those god awful uniforms 30 years later. I sure hope Star Trek doesn't use them later (if their ever is another Star Trek). I mean, comon! Those latest uniforms with the Gray coat are great. They should use those uni's for the next few decades (like Star Fleet used with total red uniforms in all the movies and early part of the 24th century). My brother made the comment "those are god awful uniforms that Star fleet uses at this time, they look and fit like pajama's!!!". I* agreed with him, I hope this is not the future, lol.

Vaul · « **Reply #8 on:** May 14, 2003, 01:23:40 am »

First thought I had on seeing the armour in Endgame was "Batmobile!". Second one was "Why didn't they use part of the SFX budget for a nice little 'deploying armour' sequence a la Batman and really get sued by Tim Burton et al."

Credo Narth · « **Reply #9 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:00:41 am »

Alternate universes... It is said that every time a decision is made, the universe splits in two. So add in time travel, and you have an infinite number of universes, with an infinite number of timelines. Which means that reality itself becomes a random variable dependent on which universe you're in and what time you're on.

In this situation, the only universal constant is the Big Mac. Tastes the same no matter what place and time you're currently existing in...

Soreyes · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2003, 05:40:26 am »

I still say the best show to discribe time travel, duel Diminsons, and Alternate Universes was RED DWARF!!

I expect to see Ace Rimmer arrive any time now to save the FEDs...... or try to

Magnum357 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 11, 2003, 02:09:11 am »

I remember a couple years ago how much contraversy their was between DS9 and VOY on this board and how people argued in which series was better. I liked DS9 a lot and was able to watch VOY only from Season 1 through 3 until UPN took over the series. Apparently, where I live, we don't carry UPN so from seasons 4 through 7 I was not able to watch a single episode in those 4 years or the years after. Just recently of the past 4 months, my brother was able to get a hold of a person that recorded the entire seires where she use to live, but unfortunetly she only had about 90% of all the episodes from Seasons 4 through 7 and they where REALLY mixed up in order. It took my brother and I from early January until tonight to get all episodes in the right order and actually enjoy the seires on episode at a time.

I finally got to the last episode tonight, and although I still think the finally needed a little more substance it was very good in my opinion. As a matter of fact, I liked seasons 4 through 7 much better then seasons 1 through 3 mostly because the episodes made better sense then the first 3 in many cases. And I finally saw Seven of Nine for the first time. Holy cow! No wonder all the males in Star Trek where talking about her! That actress is very atractive, but as I heard the Actor of Tuvok, I think the clothing might have been a little unessessary. Also, speaking of Tuvok, I think out of all the series, I think he is the best Vulcan of all. Great job by that actor. Ok, maybe the Borg where a little less scary and seemed different, but they still gave me a chill down my spine on every episode they where on.

As for the Final Episode, I'm still a little confused on a couple of issues (like is the borg collective still in existance or is it in disaray right now?) and the episode looks like it might have been rushed a little, but overall it wasn't too bad. Also, now I know why everyone was bragging about those "Transphasic" Torpedoes, those puppies pack one hell of a punch! Also, what kind of Armor is that that Voyager used? Is that some sort of Holographic Armor or something?

Anyway, I got so excited tonight, I had to make my comments about the series. Over the past couple of years I had given the series kind of a bad rap... so I kinda wanted to express my apologies. Although I think Voyager could probably use some improvements in some places, it was definitly not as bad as I had expected it too be like the first 3 seasons. I tip my hat to the cast of the show. Nice job people.

The_Pelican · « **Reply #15 on:** May 11, 2003, 05:12:07 am »

The armour is called Ablative Armour, which is actually fitted onto both the USS Defiant (20cm) & the Sovereign Class (10cm). It's incredibly durable armour, you need very little to resist severe impacts. The stuff fitted to Voyager was self-generating, and probably something like 1/2 metre think.

And all Voyager bashers should watch Seasons 4-7, as they were 10 times better than 1-3. Besides, if you really hate Voyager, you can watch it get trashed in Year of Hell.

The_Pelican · « **Reply #17 on:** May 11, 2003, 08:19:24 am »

Because she quit the show, which kinda screwed up their planning.

Plus she mentioned the year of hell in the future I believe (she was going backwards through time). Plus everything that happened was erased anyway.

Time Travel, whose dumb idea was that.......... theoretically, if time travel was possible, you couldn't alter the past at all. You couldn't go back in time and change something, because it's the past, you were meant to go back and change something. The good old temporal paradox. "What if you went back in time and killed yourself, you'd never have used the time machine in the future, so you could never have gone back in time, so how could you have killed yourself?"

Harabic · « **Reply #19 on:** May 11, 2003, 05:34:33 pm »

Time Travel, whose dumb idea was that.......... theoretically, if time travel was possible, you couldn't alter the past at all. You couldn't go back in time and change something, because it's the past, you were meant to go back and change something. The good old temporal paradox. "What if you went back in time and killed yourself, you'd never have used the time machine in the future, so you could never have gone back in time, so how could you have killed yourself?"

Thank you for the headache

Magnum357 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 12, 2003, 01:06:25 am »

On one final note. I've seen in all three series (TNG, DS9 and now VOY) that star Fleet uses those god awful uniforms 30 years later. I sure hope Star Trek doesn't use them later (if their ever is another Star Trek). I mean, comon! Those latest uniforms with the Gray coat are great. They should use those uni's for the next few decades (like Star Fleet used with total red uniforms in all the movies and early part of the 24th century). My brother made the comment "those are god awful uniforms that Star fleet uses at this time, they look and fit like pajama's!!!". I* agreed with him, I hope this is not the future, lol.

Vaul · « **Reply #22 on:** May 14, 2003, 01:23:40 am »

First thought I had on seeing the armour in Endgame was "Batmobile!". Second one was "Why didn't they use part of the SFX budget for a nice little 'deploying armour' sequence a la Batman and really get sued by Tim Burton et al."

Credo Narth · « **Reply #23 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:00:41 am »

Alternate universes... It is said that every time a decision is made, the universe splits in two. So add in time travel, and you have an infinite number of universes, with an infinite number of timelines. Which means that reality itself becomes a random variable dependent on which universe you're in and what time you're on.

In this situation, the only universal constant is the Big Mac. Tastes the same no matter what place and time you're currently existing in...

Soreyes · « **Reply #24 on:** May 15, 2003, 05:40:26 am »

I still say the best show to discribe time travel, duel Diminsons, and Alternate Universes was RED DWARF!!

I expect to see Ace Rimmer arrive any time now to save the FEDs...... or try to

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