Topic: TOS Ranks (Avatars)  (Read 8892 times)

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StClair

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2003, 04:02:20 am »
I've uploaded Fab's excellent modified and extended image set as http://www.efn.org/~kellys/tosrank2.zip , while leaving the 'flat' originals up under the same name if anyone wants them.  And I've changed my own avatar to match.

For reference, here's what the new set looks like:

 
 
Thanks again, Fab.

 (Now, should I be really obsessive and make up a "true-color" (olive green) set to replace the Command "gold"?  Here's a sample...)

 

« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by StClair »

StClair

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2003, 04:44:29 am »
Yes, it seems that I am that obsessive.  (Heck, easiest just to go ahead and do it rather than waffling.)

Gradient and flat versions of Command greens can be found in http://www.efn.org/~kellys/cmd_green.zip .

 

Fab

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2003, 05:36:50 am »
Thanks, StClair.  I appreciate your work.

The problem with the true-color one is that no one really sees it that way.  It never appeared on camera in that color, so even though that is the actual color, it looks strange because it appears like a cross between the "normal" gold and the dress greens.

Granted it's more accurate, but when I first saw your avatar my first question was, "Is that gold, or is that dress green?"  I never thought it might be "true" mustard color.

Aenigma

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2003, 07:49:36 am »
<-------------------All Romulans should get these

erei'Arrain Aenigma  

StClair

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2003, 09:00:23 pm »
The irony is that, looking at it on the color wheel, it's not actually green at all - it's pure yellow, equal parts red and green, just desaturated.  No blue at all.  It only looks green-ish because it's Not Orange.

I changed my own avatar because I was watching an episode last night ("The Savage Curtain") and I have to admit, the new ones look a lot more like what Kirk, Sulu et al are wearing.  I'm not talking about fabric swatches; I mean what I actually see on the screen.  In particular, it improves the contrast between the sleeve and the braid.

Anyway, that's why I made the new Command sleeves a separate download, rather than just replacing the ones in the revised zip; so that people can make their own choice.

I'll shut up now.
   

Fab

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2003, 05:35:22 am »
That's true, the Next Generation operations yellow certainly did seem to change from Star Trek command color.  It's probably the same color, just better film.  And it does show the braid up a little better.  I'll stick with blue for no other reason than I don't care for the yellow, and the guys in red tend to get shot a lot.

StClair

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2003, 03:24:35 am »
If anyone's still watching this thread:  I've posted what will likely be the final version of these avatars.  Here's the link:
http://www.efn.org/~kellys/tosranks.zip

And here's what they look like:
 

As you can see, I went with gold after all, but a more tan/sandy gold than I had before.  (Believe me, I watched several episodes and sampled a lot of screen-caps to try to get it just right.  Ironically, it's pretty much the same shade as I had at the very start.)   I also added a little more orange to the red, and lightened up all the sleeves just a bit.  (All those well-lit TOS rooms. )  Finally, I tightened up the spacing of the Commander and Lt. Commander stripes, and added Lt. JG (as seen in "The Naked Time").

Just for comparison, here are a few examples of the first batch:
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(Quite a difference, huh?)

I'd edit the previous posts to get rid of duplicates and dead links, but I've passed the time limit - sorry.  Thanks to Fab for his help (and for goading me to take the time to do it right) and to everyone else for your kind words and suggestions.
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StClair

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TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2003, 05:24:36 pm »
After seeing that a few people (Cleeve et al) use TNG rank pips for their avatars, I went ahead and made a quick-and-dirty set of TOS sleeves for people to use. You can see an example under my own name.

http://www.efn.org/~kellys/tosranks.zip (22k) contains ranks from Ensign to Commander for all three branches, plus Captain, Fleet Captain and Commodore (also Admiral etc) in Command gold.  All images are 60x30 gifs.  They are provided for free use on these forums.

(Edit: added the higher ranks and changed a few names.)

(Moderators - if this is off-topic here, I apologize, but I thought - I hoped - it might be of general interest.)
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Kieran Forester

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2003, 06:59:53 pm »
Thanks StClair! Neat idea.

Any chance you could do the same for the TMP rank insignias? I'd love to have a TMP Commodore's rank badge on a red field, but I'll use your Commodore's stripes for now.  

Edit - However, the Commodore's stripes don't seem to work.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2003, 07:04:55 pm by Kieran Forester »

StClair

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2003, 07:43:18 pm »
 I might, if I can find some decent images of the movie insignia.  This was a simple matter of drawing stripes on solid fields and adding gradients.

I just checked the zipfile, and it should be fine.  Try downloading it again?  Keep in mind that you'll have to host the image(s) you choose on your own webspace.

For everyone else, here's the contents of the zip:

 
   

Kieran Forester

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2003, 08:43:43 pm »
There we go, now it works. Just had to upload it.
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Kieran Forester

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2003, 08:52:22 pm »
I've uploaded them all to my site. If anyone else wants one, the URL is http://www.geocites.com/hyperion2k4/tos-xxxx.gif, where xxxx is the specific picture that you want, ie lt1, cdr3, etc. Look on the picture provided by StClair above for the listings.
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StClair

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2003, 10:00:37 pm »
Because of geocities' image-hosting policy, those avatars won't show up properly if linked from there.  I suggest you either put them up on the Knights site, or just let everyone download the zip from me.
 

Fab

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2003, 06:35:47 am »
I did the same thing.  Too much TNG and not enough TOS in the world, if you ask me.

Have you thought about making your braid "wavy"?

Aenigma

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2003, 08:45:27 am »
Could someone please find the Romulan versions of these avatars. It seems the feds always get the nice shiny things........... *sob* *sob*  

TalonClaw

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2003, 09:45:27 am »
This is a really cool idea.  

TalonClaw

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2003, 09:51:42 am »
Maybe something like this Aenigma.



Make a copy of this and host it somewhere. I won't have it up for long.

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Could someone please find the Romulan versions of these avatars. It seems the feds always get the nice shiny things........... *sob* *sob*  


 

Fab

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2003, 11:08:43 am »
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Could someone please find the Romulan versions of these avatars. It seems the feds always get the nice shiny things........... *sob* *sob*  




Are there Romulan version of TOS ranks?  The only thing I could think of would be the red and black triangular pattern the officers wore, and the blue and black triangular pattern the centurions wore.  I don't think they put as much thought into the Romulan ranks as they did the Federation ones, which is saying quite a bit.  I mean, they were (unfortunately) only seen in two episodes.

TalonClaw

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2003, 11:20:32 am »
This is more TNG based but it's neat.

http://www.tangofleet.org/ranks/ranks6.htm

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Could someone please find the Romulan versions of these avatars. It seems the feds always get the nice shiny things........... *sob* *sob*  




Are there Romulan version of TOS ranks?  The only thing I could think of would be the red and black triangular pattern the officers wore, and the blue and black triangular pattern the centurions wore.  I don't think they put as much thought into the Romulan ranks as they did the Federation ones, which is saying quite a bit.  I mean, they were (unfortunately) only seen in two episodes.  



StClair

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Re: TOS Ranks (Avatars)
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2003, 12:30:49 pm »
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Have you thought about making your braid "wavy"?  




A little, yeah.  It would basically consist of going back and adding diagonal single-pixel lines over the existing stripes.  Not sure how that would look yet.  Maybe I'll do it tonight.

Check out my TOS-movie (TMP) avatars, too.