Topic: Reclamation ........ FS's OP+ 2.1c.......

[B5er wanna be]

 Just wondering if the new shiplist is loaded up?

Oh, and my RN+ didn't recieve the special Coffee Maker, that also doubles as a cloaking device!


 p.s. I forgot to mention,
      Firesoul,
  Helluva job on the shiplist. As always more ships = more fun. Many Many Thanx


And if anyone else wants to nit pick the crap of his or anyone else's shiplist, get your own shipedit and change away, or STHU.

[FireSoul]

Yeah.. well.. it ends up that most contructive comments resulted in changes in the shiplist..
.. like those Gorn Tugs, I changed the BPVs on those, switching from the BPV to EPV.

I hope that helps.



If anyone wonders, I have been a bit stressed and pissed about my own shiplist lately.. I hope you forgive my indiscretions if I become grouchy. The last thing I want to do for a while is work on the shiplist.

-- Luc

[CptCastrin]

No, and the newer EvilDave missions aren't either.

We elected to stay with what was up now (OP+ 2.0 and the previous ED missions) because the campaign will be ending Moday.  

[jimmi7769]

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No, and the newer EvilDave missions aren't either.

We elected to stay with what was up now (OP+ 2.0 and the previous ED missions) because the campaign will be ending Moday.  

I had downloaded the newest ED mission to try out the Masters missions in SP, went to play on Reclamation later that night and got errored out.

Figured I could just go to the SFCX website and get the old ones so I could play again byut they seem to be the new ones.  

I guess it doesn't matter since it's ending tomorrow but I'm frustrated.

[CptCastrin]

If it still matters you can DL the old missions from SFCx now.

http://www.sfcx.org/downloads/OPMissions_v4.zip

(the v4 thing is just my notation to keep them seperate btw)

The 2.0 version of the shiplist is still up on SFCx.org at: http://www.sfcx.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=5

Hope that helps.  

[jimmi7769]

It helped.  Thanks.

[CaptJosh]

Question: Is it just a dial-up thing that I can't connect to the Badlands campaign?  I installled the correct files. I log in to Dynaverse II just fine, but when I try to connect to the Badlands campaign, it crashes OP out to the desktop. And it loads just fine in single player mode. Note: For the time being I'm stuck using AOL free trials for internet. Could it be a bug in AOL?


CaptJosh  

[Cleaven]

Some people have an issue with the intro movies. Change your start icon to point at starfleetop.exe and change the Start In directory to "C:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\".  

[CaptJosh]

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Some people have an issue with the intro movies. Change your start icon to point at starfleetop.exe and change the Start In directory to "C:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\".  

You're trying to solve a nonexistent problem on my machine. Get a clue!

This is an issue with Dynaverse II and the Badlands campaign on it ONLY. The program runs fine! Next time actually read the post you're replying to.

What happens to have it crash out to the desktop is that I log in to Dynaverse II, which works just fine. I then try to enter the Badlands campaign on Dynaverse II. The moment the "Incomming Hail" about connecting to the Badlands campaign server says to "Initializing Security" the game invariably crashes out to the desktop immediately.

CaptJosh  

[Cleaven]

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Some people have an issue with the intro movies. Change your start icon to point at starfleetop.exe and change the Start In directory to "C:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\".  

You're trying to solve a nonexistent problem on my machine. Get a clue!

This is an issue with Dynaverse II and the Badlands campaign on it ONLY. The program runs fine! Next time actually read the post you're replying to.

What happens to have it crash out to the desktop is that I log in to Dynaverse II, which works just fine. I then try to enter the Badlands campaign on Dynaverse II. The moment the "Incomming Hail" about connecting to the Badlands campaign server says to "Initializing Security" the game invariably crashes out to the desktop immediately.

CaptJosh  

Weeeelll now, if it isn't a mule with a spinning wheel.

At least I know that the D2 will be pest free for a while. And whatever you do, don't alter anything in your OP icon properties. It'll cause your hard drive to crash.  

[FireSoul]

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You're trying to solve a nonexistent problem on my machine. Get a clue!

Fine. Fix it yourself.

[CaptJosh]

Firesoul, that wasn't directed at you. It was directed at the person who initially replied to my post who apparently needs a course in reading comprehension.

I was complaining that trying to connect to the Badlands campaign was crashing OP, and he comes up with some BS about the opening movie which had nothing to do with that in the least. By the time I'm trying to connect to the Badlands campaign, I'm long past the opening movie. That's why I got so ticked. I despise it when people give advice to fix what isn't broken.

CaptJosh  

[TOCXOBearslayer]

Capt Josh,

There are two different .EXE files that start OP & EAW.  One goes thru the movie and seems to have problems DIRECTLY related to D2 connection.

If you change your OP start up file to 'StarFleetOP.exe'.  It will by pass the movie and should connect you to the D2 properly.

This was figured out back in the first days of EAW and started up again with the release of OP.

So try it... if it doesn't work, then it may be your AOHell account.

[FireSoul]

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Firesoul, that wasn't directed at you. It was directed at the person who initially replied to my post who apparently needs a course in reading comprehension.

I was complaining that trying to connect to the Badlands campaign was crashing OP, and he comes up with some BS about the opening movie which had nothing to do with that in the least. By the time I'm trying to connect to the Badlands campaign, I'm long past the opening movie. That's why I got so ticked. I despise it when people give advice to fix what isn't broken.
 

If you're going to ask for help, don't insult the volunteers.

[Cleaven]

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Firesoul, that wasn't directed at you. It was directed at the person who initially replied to my post who apparently needs a course in reading comprehension.

I was complaining that trying to connect to the Badlands campaign was crashing OP, and he comes up with some BS about the opening movie which had nothing to do with that in the least. By the time I'm trying to connect to the Badlands campaign, I'm long past the opening movie. That's why I got so ticked. I despise it when people give advice to fix what isn't broken.

CaptJosh  

As already noted, he is a fool, or an idiot, or maybe both. No point in wasting your time trying to help him. Could you imagine trying to deal with him on the D2 anyway? For a place that runs on volunteers the last thing you want is an extra like CaptJosh, who would be much better off playing something else anyway.  

[CaptJosh]

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As already noted, he is a fool, or an idiot, or maybe both. No point in wasting your time trying to help him. Could you imagine trying to deal with him on the D2 anyway? For a place that runs on volunteers the last thing you want is an extra like CaptJosh, who would be much better off playing something else anyway.

Excuse you? FYI, I happen to be a Computer Tech. The only reason I'm listed as an "Extra in Red Shirt" is because I don't spend all my time reading and posting here. I generally only post when I have a problem, since I have things to do other than stay online all the time.

Also, I already play in D2 from a computer shop where I'm friends with the proprietor. My only complaint is that AT HOME during the process of connecting to the Badlands campaign, having already successfully logged in to D2, for some reason initializing the security crashes the game out to the desktop. As for insulting anyone, I didn't insult everyone, only you, Cleaven, because you thought I needed to bypass the opening movie of the game when I thought that had nothing to do with it. If I was having trouble with that, I would have said that it crashes during the opening movie. But I didn't because that didn't appear to be the problem. I don't suffer fools gladly, which is why I got annoyed when you told me to try fixing something that I though wasn't broken. And if you have a problem with someone who actually already knows what he's doing getting annoyed with that, too bad. Get over it. YOU are the one who failed to explain what, if anything, the opening movie had to do with connecting to a campaign in D2. That is YOUR FAULT, not mine. Any good tech-support person knows you do your best to clearly explain to the person making a query of them why they need to do what is being suggested to them for fixing the problem. You'd never make it in a real-life tech support situation, something which I have done that you clearly haven't.

I must and will apologize for one thing. I missed an earlier post in the thread that BearSlayer made about clear links between the Bink Player opening movie and connecting to D2. BearSlayer, thanks for explaining what Cleaven failed to explain. I will try this solution and get back to you.

CaptJosh

[KOTH-Steel Claw]

 

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You're trying to solve a nonexistent problem on my machine. Get a clue!  

Was  "Get a clue!" necessary? This is most likely what sparked the issue. Cleaven merely answered your request with a possible fix. While he didn't go in depth to explain why, there is no need to insult someone who tries to help you. Maybe you could have asked him why this would help instead of 'get a clue.'

Any good tech also knows that (besides technical skills) people skills are also needed when dealing with the public and/or clients.

[Cleaven]

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As already noted, he is a fool, or an idiot, or maybe both. No point in wasting your time trying to help him. Could you imagine trying to deal with him on the D2 anyway? For a place that runs on volunteers the last thing you want is an extra like CaptJosh, who would be much better off playing something else anyway.

Excuse you? FYI, I happen to be a Computer Tech. The only reason I'm listed as an "Extra in Red Shirt" is because I don't spend all my time reading and posting here. I generally only post when I have a problem, since I have things to do other than stay online all the time.

Also, I already play in D2 from a computer shop where I'm friends with the proprietor. My only complaint is that AT HOME during the process of connecting to the Badlands campaign, having already successfully logged in to D2, for some reason initializing the security crashes the game out to the desktop. As for insulting anyone, I didn't insult everyone, only you, Cleaven, because you thought I needed to bypass the opening movie of the game when I thought that had nothing to do with it. If I was having trouble with that, I would have said that it crashes during the opening movie. But I didn't because that didn't appear to be the problem. I don't suffer fools gladly, which is why I got annoyed when you told me to try fixing something that I though wasn't broken. And if you have a problem with someone who actually already knows what he's doing getting annoyed with that, too bad. Get over it. YOU are the one who failed to explain what, if anything, the opening movie had to do with connecting to a campaign in D2. That is YOUR FAULT, not mine. Any good tech-support person knows you do your best to clearly explain to the person making a query of them why they need to do what is being suggested to them for fixing the problem. You'd never make it in a real-life tech support situation, something which I have done that you clearly haven't.

I must and will apologize for one thing. I missed an earlier post in the thread that BearSlayer made about clear links between the Bink Player opening movie and connecting to D2. BearSlayer, thanks for explaining what Cleaven failed to explain. I will try this solution and get back to you.

CaptJosh

In case you hadn't noted, FOOL, I am not a good tech support person, just somebody who would rather that you were doing something else. If you can't behave nicely, AND are too clueless to describe yourself (ie your skill set) and your system in your opening post (forgetting about the pathetic four line description of the problem itself) then you deserve all you get. As for your continuing lack of clues, then being a Red Shirt has nothing to do with it. Conveniently missing Bear Slayers post should be no surprise either. You are interested in only one thing, and as far as I am concerned you have it. And an extra sticky batch too. Don't bother with the solution, since it clearly couldn't work without a full explanation from your properly staffed tech support desk. Give the game to somebody else, since it's beyond you both on a social and intellectual level.    

[CaptJosh]

KOTH-Steel Claw, you're right. I overreacted early on. I don't know why, either. I looked at the time of when I posted that original reply and it wasn't late at night, so I can't possibly blame it on the time of day. Maybe I was running on an empty stomach. (Low blood-sugar tends to make me especially irritable, though that's still no excuse.) However, Cleaven did not need to be a jerk afterward. If someone blows off one of my suggestions about how to fix something, I don't set about calling names, I just think, "Oh well, his loss," and move on. I do have people skills, Steel. I just wasn't using them terribly well the other day. But while I did overreact, that's still no excuse for Cleaven's following torrent of abusive outbursts. However, I should not have responded in a similar fashion to him. And unfortunately, unlike IRC or a newsgroup, I know of no way to put him in an ignore list or killfile. Oh well. I guess I ignore hime the old-fashioned way.

On a brighter note, BearSlayer, the fix of going straight to the game executeable without the movie is working here at my home machine. I was able to log in to two different D2 campaigns. However, I would note that I have changed my video drivers since the last time I tried to get in to a D2 campaign and there is possibly a connection there.

Finally, while I'm on the subject, Cleaven, it wasn't at all convenient that I missed Bear Slayer's post. In fact, it was damned inconvenient. I lost potential playing time because I missed it. BTW, if you feel the need to resort to name-calling, don't talk to me any more. I don't have to put up with your sort of vitriol and I will not read any more of your deliberately inflamatory posts. Oh and just remember, one of the most prominent signs of a limited command of the english language is resorting to profanity and name-calling.

CaptJosh  

[Scipio_66]

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On a brighter note, BearSlayer, the fix of going straight to the game executeable without the movie is working here at my home machine. I was able to log in to two different D2 campaigns.

So, loosely translated,  what you are saying is that Cleaven had a clue after all.    I guess he must have read your original note and understood it.  

Despite my jibe, I am glad there is on more able to play on the D2.

-S'Cipio  

[Cleaven]

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KOTH-Steel Claw, you're right. I overreacted early on. I don't know why, either. I looked at the time of when I posted that original reply and it wasn't late at night, so I can't possibly blame it on the time of day. Maybe I was running on an empty stomach. (Low blood-sugar tends to make me especially irritable, though that's still no excuse.) However, Cleaven did not need to be a jerk afterward. If someone blows off one of my suggestions about how to fix something, I don't set about calling names, I just think, "Oh well, his loss," and move on. I do have people skills, Steel. I just wasn't using them terribly well the other day. But while I did overreact, that's still no excuse for Cleaven's following torrent of abusive outbursts. However, I should not have responded in a similar fashion to him. And unfortunately, unlike IRC or a newsgroup, I know of no way to put him in an ignore list or killfile. Oh well. I guess I ignore hime the old-fashioned way.

On a brighter note, BearSlayer, the fix of going straight to the game executeable without the movie is working here at my home machine. I was able to log in to two different D2 campaigns. However, I would note that I have changed my video drivers since the last time I tried to get in to a D2 campaign and there is possibly a connection there.

Finally, while I'm on the subject, Cleaven, it wasn't at all convenient that I missed Bear Slayer's post. In fact, it was damned inconvenient. I lost potential playing time because I missed it. BTW, if you feel the need to resort to name-calling, don't talk to me any more. I don't have to put up with your sort of vitriol and I will not read any more of your deliberately inflamatory posts. Oh and just remember, one of the most prominent signs of a limited command of the english language is resorting to profanity and name-calling.

CaptJosh  

Yes, referring to you as a fool and an idiot is name calling and as far as I am concerned it applies to anybody who, when given the answer to their problem, is rude and ignorant. You were given the most likely answer to your problem and chose to be dismissive and insulting and have been greeted in kind. You have attempted to justify your rudeness as some sort of right that you have to an explanation for the help you were given. No need to make up excuses, because you didn't even try it or ask why it should be so. You just came down from your mount on high and proclaimed that I couldn't read and don't know what you were attempting to describe in your wonderfully erudite first post in this thread. You must be a real charmer when it comes to you getting help from real helpdesk's (but then you must do that pretty often huh). So since you couldn't be bothered or didn't care,  you shot your mouth off and now proclaim some sort of inherent rights of the stupid.

Well you have no rights in that respect. People get help here because another player is needed. But if you want to be insulting to those who extend you a hand with a PROMPT and CORRECT reply then so be it, you have cast your lot. Don't expect any further assistance of any kind from this direction, since I already have enought clues of the kind that you seem to think is important. Yes a kill file around here would be useful, and yes ,you would be on it. It would make it easier to spot those genuinely in need of assistance, and not the insulting and provocative trouble makers and time wasters. Now you may go about your way and find somebody else to let loose your "appreciation" on.
   

[Cleaven]

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On a brighter note, BearSlayer, the fix of going straight to the game executeable without the movie is working here at my home machine. I was able to log in to two different D2 campaigns.

So, loosely translated,  what you are saying is that Cleaven had a clue after all.    I guess he must have read your original note and understood it.  

Despite my jibe, I am glad there is on more able to play on the D2.

-S'Cipio  

An extra player is the only upside out of this sad little situation. And since CaptJosh seems to have made it onto the D2, the only thing to add is that I usually play Lyran or otherwise another of the two Coalition empires. I wouldn't want to spoil anybody's fun by having him find that his new all time favorite clueless wonder is on the same team (with the price of T-bombs and all).    

And just to make it clear for CaptJosh, I play the YELL-OW ones, the GR-EEN ones and the RED ones

<holds up large colour cards as the colours are spoken slowly and clearly>.

[CaptJosh]

Scipio 66, I already said as much. And, though I don't like to do this, Cleaven, I owe you an apology for my poor behavior in response to your initial reply to my post. I should have asked how that was related, not jumped down your throat. However, this still doe not excuse your continued abusive behavior. Furthermore, before you call me stupid again, you might want to check this other post out:

Re: Orion Pirates apparently has a major bug

While it started out with a complaint about the key bindings, which was quickly rectified, I discovered a different bug, a glitch in single player gameplay that wasn't allowing people to start a campaign in the advanced era if the copy of OP they had was completely patched up-to-date. I also solved that problem almost entirely on my own.(Read the last post of mine in that discussion thread.)

Now, I apologized to you for my behavior. I expect you to begin acting like a civilized being, since I have extended that courtesy to you, Cleaven.

CaptJosh  

[Cleaven]

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Scipio 66, I already said as much. And, though I don't like to do this, Cleaven, I owe you an apology for my poor behavior in response to your initial reply to my post. I should have asked how that was related, not jumped down your throat. However, this still doe not excuse your continued abusive behavior. Furthermore, before you call me stupid again, you might want to check this other post out:

Re: Orion Pirates apparently has a major bug

While it started out with a complaint about the key bindings, which was quickly rectified, I discovered a different bug, a glitch in single player gameplay that wasn't allowing people to start a campaign in the advanced era if the copy of OP they had was completely patched up-to-date. I also solved that problem almost entirely on my own.(Read the last post of mine in that discussion thread.)

Now, I apologized to you for my behavior. I expect you to begin acting like a civilized being, since I have extended that courtesy to you, Cleaven.

CaptJosh    

So you are still expecting to be cut some sort of slack because it's okay for you top call me a moron, ie somebody who can't read, has language problems and needs a few clues, and not for me to call you stupid, a fool and an idiot when you refused good advice and became arrogant. Did I call you something worse than that? Go on, because I want to hear why you have more rights in this respect than anybody else. In your view it's abusive, but it's okay for you to call me similar things? I contend that you have no additional rights in this respect and were given what you gave, in spades.

As for the other thread, yes I did a bad thing, I posted that this was a known problem, and was going to explain that it had been brought up 1-2 months ago by another new player. You see a few people sometimes keep  track of some game problems and referring others with the same problem to the original answers (or at least how to use the search function), or if they have time and typing speed, regurgitate the answers for some of the simpler, more common problems. But then for some strange reason I can't precisely remember I had a change of heart, maybe because I read something else then went back and deleted it. Something about somebody else having a limited command of the english language etc. It's all a bit blurry now, possibly because of an apology but that's how it goes I guess. But then lo and behold somebody else has answered it (probably the same person as last time) after all and given you the information to solve that problem. Amazing how that happens around here.

And don't be surprised if, when the advanced campaign problem is raised again, all I say is "Read this thread" with a link attached to that answer. No explanations, no justifications.

       

[RogueJedi_XC]

<Wrong thread. Deleted and reposed in the correct thread.>

[EmeraldEdge]

lol, I feel your pain.  When I logged onto reclamation I died, time and time again.  Hadn't played in a while.  Are you still having trouble with the missions on TechWars?  I seem to be doing a lot better, but perhaps I'm just selecting decent missions or something, there was a fleet action script that was a bit much, but it seems like the matchups are a lot more reasonable this time around.  It is a new batch of scripts though, but I don't knwo what's changed, so...