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FireSoul

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Need info about a Troll
« on: May 03, 2003, 05:33:36 pm »
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06:03PM <MadElf2753229780> is FS here?
06:08PM <kbf-jd2753229780> he has been in and out
06:09PM <kbf-jd2753229780> oh no not another lanet assult!!!!
06:09PM <kbf-jd2753229780> planet...
06:15PM <MadElf2753229780> I like planet assaults
06:16PM <MadElf2753229780> I need to talk to him about the federation tugs
06:16PM <MadElf2753229780> you know the FED tugs are better than BCH class ships
06:19PM <MadElf2753229780> you clear?
06:25PM <kbf-jd2753229780> I think the dv went down
06:26PM <MadElf2753229780> I haven't been updated yet
06:26PM <MadElf2753229780> ship still shows full load
<FireSoul> yes, some tugs are better than BCHs..
06:26PM <MadElf2753229780> ya, notours though
06:26PM <MadElf2753229780> not ours*
<FireSoul> .. but these are usually entered as BCHs in the shiplist.
06:26PM <MadElf2753229780> I thoguht TUGs were supposed to be slow, supplemental ships
<FireSoul> not always.
06:26PM <MadElf2753229780> not things with 45power
06:26PM <kbf-jd2753229780> dv 77 I think it went down
<FireSoul> like I said, not always.
06:27PM <MadElf2753229780> all ours are awful
<FireSoul> I didn't invent these..
<FireSoul> .. so I will have to ignore you.
06:27PM <kbf-jd2753229780> where did you get the fed tug data?
06:27PM <MadElf2753229780> FS
<FireSoul> all added ships in OP+ are from the original source: SFB.
06:27PM <MadElf2753229780> you sure you copied them all correctly?
<FireSoul> oh yes.
<FireSoul> I'm quite sure.
06:27PM <MadElf2753229780> and you're electing to ignore me?
<FireSoul> that too.
06:28PM <MadElf2753229780> FS
06:28PM <MadElf2753229780> you are the dumbset [censored] I have ever met, or you're quite ignorant of WHO I AM
<FireSoul> you know..
<FireSoul> .. I don't give a [censored] about who you are.
06:28PM <MadElf2753229780> ya, tha'ts obvious
--- MadElf2753229780 [baronkmarr@1B1A5D74.2CFAE194.182E478B.IP] has left #General@Reclamation []
<FireSoul> good riddence.
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Should I care who MadElf is?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by FireSoul »

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2003, 05:55:52 pm »
Well, in as much any of us should care who anyone else is, yes (or no)...you choose.


MadElf is a top Klingon captain and member of the Klingon Black Fleet.


Looking at the transcript of the conversation, it looks like you guys went from a lapse in clear communication to you telling him he was one to be ignored because he was commenting about your shiplis and then him telling you what he thought of you as a result of your choosing to ignore him.


I could be wrong, of course, but that's the way I read it.  I just don't think either of you were understanding (or caring) where the other one was coming from and things went downhill from there.


So, anyway...now ya know who MadElf is.  In terms of diplomatic skills, he may be weak..but he's about as strong a pilot as we have.  



 

KBF-JD

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2003, 06:30:16 pm »
raj, please delete the info from your post, you posted something that should not be made public....

I don't care if you send it to firesoul, just do not post it in public, please.


I tested the F-BT+  and it acts like I'd expect it to act from SFB.

Max speed is 20.66 and it turns slowly(max speed should be 21, I think) but I think the limitation is in SFC not the translation.

I also have concerns about the tug translation and a lot of the ships that have been added, but I think we can handle it better than this(on both sides).

jd  

Stormbringer

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Re: Need info about a Troll *DELETED*
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2003, 06:47:32 pm »
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warsears

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2003, 08:24:48 pm »
Oh Gee FireSoul is that the way you treat someone you dont know ignore  them when they ask you a few simple question.
then have the nerve to call them a troll. With all do respect that was asinine is that they way we treat D2 players we dont
know as far as you knew he could have be fairly new to the game, and  a game that has lost more than 50% of its player base.

rajnsaj  I dont know what all those numbers mean but if it something that should be private please delete it asap.  

FireSoul

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2003, 09:53:46 pm »
Nah..
.. that's just how I respond to someone who starts swearing at me.  .. Defemation is low on my chart of respectful things to do.

Thanks for the info guys.
Rajnsaj: .. thanks.. I don't need his IP and such, I'm okay.

- Luc

FireSoul

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2003, 09:58:38 pm »
I'm just a bit peeved and stressed about the shiplist. Thanks to those who support my efforts. .. I need a vacation from it now.

Karnak

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2003, 10:34:58 pm »
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Nah..
.. that's just how I respond to someone who starts swearing at me.  .. Defemation is low on my chart of respectful things to do.

 




FYI for anyone interested, try this on a GFL server and you will most likely get banned.

warsears

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2003, 10:46:53 pm »
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Nah..
.. that's just how I respond to someone who starts swearing at me.  .. Defemation is low on my chart of respectful things to do.

Thanks for the info guys.
Rajnsaj: .. thanks.. I don't need his IP and such, I'm okay.

- Luc  




You got to be kidding right you started the hole thing when you told MadElf you were just going to ignore him unless there is more to this chat that you dident post then I have to say you were in the wrong.

Karnak  I dont know what you are talking about if your going to ban people for asking a few question then ban me now please.
   

jimmi7769

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2003, 10:47:32 pm »
Oh Boy.........It's a game guys.  Meant for entertainmanet and having fun.  

If it's no longer fun then you might want to look for different entertainment.

IndyShark

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2003, 10:51:21 pm »
Firsoul, you have done a great job with your shiplist. I don't know MadElf, and I don't care to. Just ignore him. I don't know if you remember Evil Kenieval (sp?), but he once said "It's a good thing killing is against the law, because some people need killing".  As Evil, notes, it's against the law, so it is best to avoid them.

I appreciate all of your hard work and I am having fun with OP again. Thank you!

 

3dot14

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2003, 10:56:11 pm »
As the Taldren folks love to remind us, "it's not what you say, it's how you say"...

Before Dogmatix's character reference, MadElf does sound like just another "why is my race so weak" whiners. FS did what we have been doing on the forums for ages: ignoring the whiners...

But as it turns out, it was just a case of miscommunication. (and strained nerves)

Everybody just take two days of vacation from SFC2, and will be right as rain... (I never understood that phrase, why rain?)

FireSoul

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2003, 11:07:30 pm »
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Before Dogmatix's character reference, MadElf does sound like just another "why is my race so weak" whiners. FS did what we have been doing on the forums for ages: ignoring the whiners...
 




With OP+ 2.1 .. no wait .. 2.1b .. nooo.. 2.1C..
.. it's been a bit strained. .. and hearing someone say something about legal and correct tugs..
..  .. well.. I've talked to him last night and he didn't get what I was trying to do. So today I decided to tell him I was gonna ignore him.
Ohhh boy. I didn't mean to blow things up like that. I just want him to play and enjoy the ships.



.. and not dump on me for it.
-- Luc

Karnak

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2003, 11:26:50 pm »
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Nah..
Karnak  I dont know what you are talking about if your going to ban people for asking a few question then ban me now please.
   




LOL, it's the swearing part that needed the "[CENSORED]" tag.  Ask all the questions you want.  I've never been one to hold back. . Assuming I was admin-ing a GFL server tonite for the sake of argument,  I would not be doing any of the banning on a GFL server unless a Council guy approved it.  I was just remarking on what the GFL dynarules say and my own D3 experiences.  Just saying I can understand FireSoul's point of view.  I can get riled up pretty good too when someone resorts to the "[CENSORED]" stuff and character defamation.

Anyway, I hope y'all work it out cuz it looks like it can be.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Karnak »

warsears

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2003, 11:27:52 pm »
FireSoul I do appreciate the hard work that you have done. And ever one else that works so hard to make SFCII a better game.  

Look FireSoul  no hard feelings  I just call them like I see them.

rajnsaj  please delet the info that you posted on DarkElf it sounds to me that this is private info and should remain that way.

   

FireSoul

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2003, 11:30:40 pm »
That's fine..
.. thanks Warsears. I just wanna play for a while.

DarkElf

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2003, 12:00:30 am »
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FireSoul I do appreciate the hard work that you have done. And ever one else that works so hard to make SFCII a better game.  

Look FireSoul  no hard feelings  I just call them like I see them.

rajnsaj  please delet the info that you posted on DarkElf it sounds to me that this is private info and should remain that way.







Ok, lets get a couple of things straight.

MadElf and myself are NOT the same person.  Different people.  Two different people?  Got it?  Good.

And I would recommend taking the sensitve information down.  Bad things can happen if that falls in the wrong hand.  Especially when posting something with email addresses and IP Addresses.  Just a suggestion.



 

Stormbringer

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2003, 12:18:46 am »
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FireSoul I do appreciate the hard work that you have done. And ever one else that works so hard to make SFCII a better game.  

Look FireSoul  no hard feelings  I just call them like I see them.

rajnsaj  please delet the info that you posted on DarkElf it sounds to me that this is private info and should remain that way.







Ok, lets get a couple of things straight.

MadElf and myself are NOT the same person.  Different people.  Two different people?  Got it?  Good.

And I would recommend taking the sensitve information down.  Bad things can happen if that falls in the wrong hand.  Especially when posting something with email addresses and IP Addresses.  Just a suggestion.



 




That probably is not going to happen.( I'd rather not explain that, but the person who posted it is not in a concilliatory mood.) I recommend asking a moderator to remove it.  

Dizzy

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2003, 04:05:27 am »
What if Madelf were me? It wasnt, but imagine that?

I'll admit... I have run into my fair share of Battle tugs and Mons on LB3. And to be quite honest, I have swore your name up and down, FS.

I had a battletug chase me around going 31 with more firepower than an NCC... ZI made me sick...

Not only was it going some 25-31, it was charging all its waepons at the same time..

I have looked at the battletugs after that... and the ones I have seen have a move ratio of 1 and 30 warp power. On top of that, they have a lot of APR and impulse. That measns they can go 30. And charge.

For SG3, the Tugs move ratio will be increased to bring down their top speed... but how muuch? Should a tug go 12, 16, 20?

FS, when someone critizises your work, listen to them. They may have something useful to say.

I also understand how hard it is doing a shiplist. So I understand how offish you can be toward picky ppl who know noting of the countless hours of time poured into it. You did a good job.

I'm also surprised at the reaction to madelf.. I dont give a [censored] who he is. He can be Frey and I'll tell Frey he was out of line, but so far, he hasnt been ... hehe. But madelf was out of line. Getting pissed and insulting someone elses work that they took so long in doing for your enjoyment is really bad form. Madelf made a bad choice imo.

Just STFU if you dont have anything good to say.

And the IP info needs to be immediately deleted...
 

KBF-JD

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Re: Need info about a Troll
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2003, 10:40:55 am »
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What if Madelf were me? It wasnt, but imagine that?

I'll admit... I have run into my fair share of Battle tugs and Mons on LB3. And to be quite honest, I have swore your name up and down, FS.

I had a battletug chase me around going 31 with more firepower than an NCC... ZI made me sick...

Not only was it going some 25-31, it was charging all its waepons at the same time..

I have looked at the battletugs after that... and the ones I have seen have a move ratio of 1 and 30 warp power. On top of that, they have a lot of APR and impulse. That measns they can go 30. And charge.

For SG3, the Tugs move ratio will be increased to bring down their top speed... but how muuch? Should a tug go 12, 16, 20?

FS, when someone critizises your work, listen to them. They may have something useful to say.

I also understand how hard it is doing a shiplist. So I understand how offish you can be toward picky ppl who know noting of the countless hours of time poured into it. You did a good job.

I'm also surprised at the reaction to madelf.. I dont give a [censored] who he is. He can be Frey and I'll tell Frey he was out of line, but so far, he hasnt been ... hehe. But madelf was out of line. Getting pissed and insulting someone elses work that they took so long in doing for your enjoyment is really bad form. Madelf made a bad choice imo.

Just STFU if you dont have anything good to say.

And the IP info needs to be immediately deleted...
   




Dizzy is right, to a point.

I tested the F-BT+ and it acted as expected.  But there are a boat load of tugs that need to be tested.  Many of these tugs, I have never seen before and I played SFB for about 10 years.  Maybe they were introduced after I stopped playing?

But if a tug can go faster than a CA, has better wepons than a CA, and cost less than a CA, that's a problem.  I don't care if it is pure SFB or not.  And I am about as "pure" an SFBer as you are ging to find around here.  Now if it cost 200 BPV and will be matched against BCs and Dreads, it's not too much of a problem.

Now if you don't think that some people tried(and suceeded in) sliping some cheese by ABD, you are fooling yourself.  Many things were added and removed from cannon SFB over time.  Even pure SFB is not perfect.

We just need to look at what is going on without our EGOs getting in the way.

Thanks,

jd