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jdmckinney

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #460 on: June 05, 2003, 12:24:57 pm »
Without looking closely, I'd say no non-Hydran ship should get 6 gatlings. Also, 4 MIRVs seems excessive. If that were 2 MIRVs and 2 Bs, it would still be plenty of drones in the air (does it have other drones as well?). The power curve is tricky. It seems the Taldren default was perhaps not as far off on power as some thought (myself included). Maybe stepping it down by a couple power boxes at a time and testing on GSA would help to find a sweet spot.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #461 on: June 05, 2003, 12:26:09 pm »
The D5XD is overpriced. It's currently at 214BPV..
.. based on data, it should come down to maybe .. 190? .. -25BPV. 189 BPV sounds ok?
.. compare with the K-D5D.. it is only at 116 BPV.


Other comparaison:

K-D5L:  133
K-D5X:  197.

It sounds about right from gameplay perspective too.

-- Luc

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #462 on: June 05, 2003, 12:31:24 pm »
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Without looking closely, I'd say no non-Hydran ship should get 6 gatlings. Also, 4 MIRVs seems excessive. If that were 2 MIRVs and 2 Bs, it would still be plenty of drones in the air (does it have other drones as well?). The power curve is tricky. It seems the Taldren default was perhaps not as far off on power as some thought (myself included). Maybe stepping it down by a couple power boxes at a time and testing on GSA would help to find a sweet spot.





Yeah.. it has 2 C racks as well. ..
.. I am thinking of removing it, and putting in a special mention that that ship has been banned from my shiplist for being OTT. If you aren't happy with that decision, sorry and too bad. I've actually TESTED that ship and found it too much for my liking.

Oh, and no.. I don't cater to fleets who threathen to not use my shiplist. So *nyah*!

jdmckinney

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #463 on: June 05, 2003, 02:18:02 pm »
Back off-topic: after looking through the ADB/SFB boards, one other ship of note appearing in CL26 is the Gorn Commando Dreadnought (DNG). It may be a reprint of a Star Fleet Times newsletter SSD, but still sounds interesting.

DH123

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #464 on: June 05, 2003, 03:36:58 pm »
Stupid question, any plans to add PFs and fighters to all races?  I know it works in Single player campaign and skirmish using "donor" ships by other races.  I got mine working fine by using the OrionTigerHeart Cartel for the donors and I moved them to the top of the shiplist.  

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #465 on: June 05, 2003, 03:53:59 pm »
No.. The shiplist will remain in Taldren's style.

jimmi7769

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #466 on: June 05, 2003, 10:36:41 pm »
R5 was battleships
R6   fast warship
R7 Dreadnaughts at war


R10 new cruisers..............


Were'd R8 and R9 go??

MadElf

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #467 on: June 05, 2003, 11:11:58 pm »
R8 and R9 were the only modules with good klingon ships, so they were buried, never to be seen again.


 

jdmckinney

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #468 on: June 06, 2003, 11:10:52 am »
LOL. One of them, I believe, is sector bases and other such non-ship stuff, according to the bits I've read on the SFB boards. The other may be conjectural ships or something a little more "out-there." They probably assigned those two numbers to projects before the New Cruisers evolved into a full module. Anyway, I'm glad this one came first.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #469 on: June 06, 2003, 11:15:11 am »
Strafer ordered J2 and R10..
.. so the until I can pay him back, he'll own them but I'll be able to use them.


So, people, give him your thanks.
-- Luc

Strafer

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #470 on: June 06, 2003, 11:27:31 am »
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So, people, give him your thanks.
-- Luc  




Or curses, as these new babies will eventually be on your tail in an asteroid field near you!  

IndyShark

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #471 on: June 08, 2003, 08:39:58 pm »
Firesoul, I noticed the D5XD in the drydock today. What is her drone control rating?

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #472 on: June 08, 2003, 08:45:31 pm »
12. There are nasty bugs when someone tries anything higher.
(I tried for 18, bcause it has 12, and has special sensor channels.)

IndyShark

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #473 on: June 09, 2003, 06:15:26 am »
Thanks. You answered both of my questions. I will have to try her in a COOP ACE mission.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #474 on: June 11, 2003, 12:24:44 pm »
Not to self!

.. my gut was right! The CAD+ doesn't get a 7th B rack, it's a G-rack! .. the CAD+ and CADR should be updated to use a G-rack, and a ADD. I'll have to adjust the BPV, of course.

-- Luc
 

FPF_TraceyG

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #475 on: June 11, 2003, 07:47:32 pm »
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Not to self!

.. my gut was right! The CAD+ doesn't get a 7th B rack, it's a G-rack! .. the CAD+ and CADR should be updated to use a G-rack, and a ADD. I'll have to adjust the BPV, of course.

-- Luc
 




Interesting...

Strafer

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #476 on: June 11, 2003, 10:36:12 pm »
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Interesting...  




When a woman says that word...
... it's either expensive or hazardous.
 

Sethan

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #477 on: June 12, 2003, 04:50:23 pm »
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The Z-CCX2 is way way WAY over the top.
6 gatlings, 4 MIRVs 57 power which means it goes speed 31 and Overloads the 4 dizzies all the time..

Things I can do:
1- "R" designation. I don't want that thing on the D2. Ever.
2- Shipedit itself says that it's 20 BPV *UNDER*priced. .. and that's at LEAST.

.. that ship has no place in the shiplist..why I never noticed it before, nor looked at it closely, I am not sure. But KOTH and KAT be damned, that ship isn't staying as-is. I need opinions.

-- Luc  




The real question is how it compares to X2 cruisers of other races.  If it is OTT, tone it down or make a reasonable ship from scratch to go in its place.  You can't really just remove it, as it would leave a 'hole' in the shiplist for the Mirak (i.e., a place where other races have a ship and the Mirak have nothing comparable).

Strafer

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #478 on: June 12, 2003, 05:01:44 pm »
The SFB Z-CCX is there, the CCX2 was put back after some fleets were screaming BOYCOTT. Having investigated further, it's been deemed way O.t.T. and well time will tell on the final call.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ corrections thread
« Reply #479 on: June 12, 2003, 09:50:01 pm »
exactly. The true CCX is present to counter the the other X1s.
..

.. ok. I'll be rude. I had a bad day today: my father died.
If you lose with the Z-CCX2 (Taldren's) .. you REALLY SUCK.


Edit: I tested myself against it. I died miserably. Twice. 2 separate tests vs another player. There reallty aren't many ships that can take it on. Seriously! The Mirak X2 are GOOD SHIPS. They have less power, but a crapload of droneracks to take up the room.

-- Luc
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