Topic: OP+ corrections thread (Read 70271 times)

The_Infiltrator · « **Reply #440 on:** May 30, 2003, 07:13:29 pm »

Quote:

Note to self:

.. crap.. I can't believe I have missed/ignore tihs all along.
Thre are *4* shuttlebay related fields

1- # of shuttlebay boxes
2- launchrate
3- # shuttles BASE. (for stock configuration)
4- # shuttles MAX.

.. in the Z-DD+ bug above, the # shuttles max is 1, instead of 2 despite the baysize of 2. In-game, that meant a single shuttle.

.. so it DOES work. That means I should review ALL fighter-carriers and add all the missing internal hits to the # of shuttlebays! .. that means 40 more for the IC+, for example! That's 80 internals more.
..Crap.. crap crap crap. This is a MUST do.

-- Luc

EDIT: as long as there's 1 bay, all fighters may rearm. That's wrong.. crap.. the old arguments again.
PS. No, I'm not using standard hull. That screws up DAC. Best would be to leave alone unless good arguments come up.

Edit2: Argument via D2 server: .. no bays hits is appropriate balance for fighter regen.

1. I'm not sure if adding shuttlebay boxes will work. I seem to recall that there is a max number.
2. All fighters rearming on 1 shuttlebay is not as bad as the ability to hit and run the shuttlebay and take it out of commission so that you can't launch fighters at all. I don't have the SSD for the IC, but I'll guarantee it has more than 2 launch tubes. Use cargo or barracks instead of hull if you want to add the internals. Tar I'm sure will point out that SFC has no chance for a chain reaction, but seriously, I can't think of any competent fighter commander that would allow a situation to develop that would trigger one, unless he was totally suprised at fairly close range. In which case it's probabally not your biggest problem anyway.

You COULD rearm 40 fighters with only 1 fighter bay. It would just take a very long time. Also, in a situation with a crippled CVA, the escorts could also rearm the fighters; or at least the hydran and federation could.

Again the long and short of it is that taldren hosed this issue somewhat, just like the decision to not give everyone fighters and PF's.

FireSoul · « **Reply #441 on:** May 31, 2003, 07:46:01 am »

.. one person noticed I have converted ships from SFB in the following manner:

2xPLaM -> 2xPLaR (upgraded)
2xPLaS -> 2xPLaG (downgraded)
No BPV change.

.. while other ships:
PLaM -> PLaR, +10 BPV
No downgrades (because there aren't as many Rs as Ms)

The question is: Should I leave it like that, with some ships haivng lower BPV but also less firepower, or should I reupgrade their PLaGs to PLaSs with +10BPV each?

jdmckinney · « **Reply #442 on:** May 31, 2003, 09:17:15 am »

Well, consider this: none of the other races can use X-heavy rules, so why would the plasma races get better heavies? I'm not saying they don't deserve them, just that it is a factor to consider. If adding PlasD, what about all S and 2 additional Ds? Anyway, I think there are a number of good conversions. It might be worthwhile to test several.

FireSoul · « **Reply #443 on:** May 31, 2003, 10:30:19 am »

It the moment, I am in a state of "wait and see" ..
.. I'm waiting to see if my request for defensive-capable (on default) phX will be acknowledged.

*THE* best point concerning plasma I have heard is "if you downgrade it, it can probably be outrun. That's why I feel the downgrades I have already done is in error. I should have increased the BPV instead with the better PlasmaRs.

As for PlasmaD.. well.. killing 12 drones for free per rack seems, ..well, a bit much. The ship has all those ph1s.. oh sorry, phX, to be able to defend itself as well as be offensive. We've already discussed the phGs, so the ups and downs are all said, there.

.. anyways..
Let's wait and see what happens. There's still 1 patch left.
-- Luc

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #444 on:** May 31, 2003, 10:32:57 am »

man, those X-ships are a pain ain't they.

They stirred up all kinds of problems in SFB too.

FireSoul · « **Reply #445 on:** May 31, 2003, 10:35:53 am »

based on the (poorly populated) TechWars server..
.. they're a lot of fun, too.

-- Luc

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #446 on:** May 31, 2003, 10:45:23 am »

Never said they weren't fun, just a balancing nightmare.

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #447 on:** June 01, 2003, 12:19:42 am »

Just curious. Why don't you use PlaX for PlaM? Also, how do you adjust for the lack of a PlaL in SFC?

FireSoul · « **Reply #449 on:** June 01, 2003, 09:48:12 am »

The PLaL also takes no power to hold the charged plasma inside, like the PLaF.

As for the PLaX.. it's too damned fast. speed 40? No way I'll use it.

FireSoul · « **Reply #450 on:** June 02, 2003, 11:29:30 pm »

Note to self:

The FX phasers on the Lyran BBs are actually KFX. (Klingon FX boom arc)
Needs correction/review.

FireSoul · « **Reply #453 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:32:31 am »

yes, R10 is indeed essential. However, I don't know if I have that cash to spare. Same goes for J2 which I haven't seen in my town yet.. .. in fact I don't know if I'll add ships from J2 yet.

.. as for copying ships from Captain's Logs.. well.. there's a good reason why I don't do it often: the SSDs given don't cover all races. Because of balance, when a type of ship is released, I want to be able to add all of the race's variants of this ship.

The only exception I have made was to use CL #16's X1 Drone Bombardment ships.

-- Luc

jdmckinney · « **Reply #454 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:34:33 am »

That CDX should fill the X-bombardment void for the Kzinti. As for the cash, well I've already preordered my copies of both, so if you need some stats...

FireSoul · « **Reply #455 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:36:10 am »

I need more than stats.. I need to _own_ them. I think I'll borrow from strafer or something.
-- Luc

jdmckinney · « **Reply #456 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:46:32 am »

I know how you feel.

I'm just glad I stumbled upon these at the ADB site. I never buy from shops, because the only one nearby doesn't stock the new stuff reliably. I order everything from ADB, and I've never had a problem getting what I want. Anyway, R10 is a BIG DEAL. I wasn't expecting it to be the next major release, so it's a bit of a surprise.

FireSoul · « **Reply #457 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:47:36 am »

Where can I find the preorder link for R10?
-- Luc

jdmckinney · « **Reply #458 on:** June 05, 2003, 11:05:39 am »

Main site for ADB's online sales: http://www.starfleetstore.com/

Direct link to R10 page: Module R10: The New Cruisers

Direct link to CL26 page: Captain's Log 26

FireSoul · « **Reply #459 on:** June 05, 2003, 12:18:47 pm »

The Z-CCX2 is way way WAY over the top.
6 gatlings, 4 MIRVs 57 power which means it goes speed 31 and Overloads the 4 dizzies all the time..

Things I can do:
1- "R" designation. I don't want that thing on the D2. Ever.
2- Shipedit itself says that it's 20 BPV *UNDER*priced. .. and that's at LEAST.

.. that ship has no place in the shiplist..why I never noticed it before, nor looked at it closely, I am not sure. But KOTH and KAT be damned, that ship isn't staying as-is. I need opinions.

-- Luc

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