Topic: OP+ corrections thread (Read 70330 times)

FireSoul · « **Reply #200 on:** June 13, 2003, 12:11:22 am »

thanks Rod..
.. it's been.. .. rough.. today.

FPF_TraceyG · « **Reply #201 on:** June 13, 2003, 12:33:14 am »

My condolences to you and your family on the loss of your father, FireSoul.

Sethan · « **Reply #202 on:** June 13, 2003, 01:11:00 am »

Rod said what I was thinking.

My condolences, Firesoul.

IndyShark · « **Reply #203 on:** June 13, 2003, 09:41:27 am »

Firesoul, I am very sorry to hear about your irreplaceable loss.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #204 on:** June 15, 2003, 08:12:52 am »

Hello Firesoul
My deepest condolences on your loss. I know that you will get though this keep the faith and know that you have friends
that you can draw support from.

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #205 on:** June 15, 2003, 12:36:15 pm »

Hello FireSoul, I hope you are doing OK today. I've been messing around with one of my shiplists and listed all the Lyran and Mirak as special and re-did the WYN and LDR class types so they are used in the campaigns instead. It's an interesting switch. Thought you might like to try it yourself, if you haven't already.

FireSoul · « **Reply #206 on:** June 15, 2003, 01:02:46 pm »

The WYN and LDR are interesting ships, but are a bit OTT. They're special cases, you see.. and SPECIAL suits them fine for GSA use and such. I'll leave it up to the administrator of the server to decide if he wants them in his campaign or not.

Sten · « **Reply #207 on:** June 15, 2003, 01:15:22 pm »

Firesoul,

Question for you. In your latest SFB conversion of the shiplist have you given the PFs The power a SFB PF has?

The last shiplist of yours I downloaded all the PF were still shorted in the power department.

May not seem like much but the PFs have enough problems.

For instance the Romulan Starhawk A.
8 Total Warp--->Should be 12

The Lyran PFs are shorted by 1-2 points of power each.

The Gorn PFs are simular to the Lyran PFs short by 1-2 points of power.

Sten
Concerned Lyran Player

FireSoul · « **Reply #208 on:** June 15, 2003, 01:25:44 pm »

You're not the first to mention that, I noticed. Ok. sure. I can check all PFs and make sure they have the right ammount of power, including WBP power, but know that the BPV will also be raised.

-- Luc

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #209 on:** June 15, 2003, 02:00:58 pm »

Quote:

Firesoul,

Question for you. In your latest SFB conversion of the shiplist have you given the PFs The power a SFB PF has?

The last shiplist of yours I downloaded all the PF were still shorted in the power department.

May not seem like much but the PFs have enough problems.

For instance the Romulan Starhawk A.
8 Total Warp--->Should be 12

The Lyran PFs are shorted by 1-2 points of power each.

The Gorn PFs are simular to the Lyran PFs short by 1-2 points of power.

Sten
Concerned Lyran Player

Just a couple of thoughts on PFs. You can't really make them like SFB. For one, the plasma PFs in SFB are limited to firing 2 PlaF/turn. Some of the PFs have 5 PlaF on them. That's an 100pt alpha strike. I thought about using a combo of 1 PlaF and the rest PlaI, but that only works on the first turn. The PF would then be limited to 1 PlaI/turn until the PlaF rearmed. Also, they aren't penalized by the 2X damage when packed. I noticed that the Lyran player didn't mention that the PFE is overgunned when compared to the PFL though.

More weapons than a frigate! I'm not trying to start a disagreement here, but I think that the overall balance of weapons and power works pretty well as is. More power would make them too deadly IMO.

Strafer · « **Reply #210 on:** June 15, 2003, 02:35:04 pm »

IIRC the Plasma PFs have had a limiter placed on them for how many torps to fire at once in a past EAW build.
At least an attempt to do so was made... Mags? Care to comment?

FireSoul · « **Reply #211 on:** June 15, 2003, 03:13:46 pm »

why doesn't someone do a skirmish, do "backspace" onto a PF to take it over, and test it?

Holocat · « **Reply #212 on:** June 17, 2003, 02:47:53 am »

Dosen't OP still have that Plas-I 'bug' where every Plas-I hardpoint may fire one torpedo at a big target per turn if available?

If so, can't the problem of '2-plas-F-per-turn' SFB rule put into effect by having 2 Plas-I hardpoints, one with 2 weapons, and the other with 3? Theoretically, it *should* fire only and up to 2 plas-F per turn if available.

Of course, the obvious peculiarities of this setup would make the PF fire up to five at other PFs and fighters.

I bet the AI would make this problem worse by using main if there aren't fighters/PFs present; Anyone else see a shotgun hole in this plan?

Would switching the default setting of Main to Defence for Plas-I (how this would be done, I have no clue) help this fix?

Hypothetically working,

Holocat.

MadElf · « **Reply #213 on:** June 17, 2003, 04:09:06 am »

Yeah, the default setting of the I plasma would have to be changed, since PF spawn armed, and they'd just never get anything but the one torp in each bank loaded. But yeah, using I torps in that setup sounds great to me, good idea holocat, just need to change the default setting fo I torps (who uses I torps on main anyway?)

The_Infiltrator · « **Reply #214 on:** June 17, 2003, 07:12:06 am »

There's no limit to the number of plasmas that can be fired, at least in EAW (and therefore, I assume, OP). I've seen a human player chase me at speed 31 cloaked with a PF and then fire all 5 into my rear shield.

What does happen is that the number of plasmas that come out charged is dependent on how the weapons are arranged on hardpoints. If you put all 5 plasmas on their own hardpoints, they come out all charged at once and are able to be fired. Mounting multiple weapons on the same hardpoint results in having to charge some of them, adding a restriction of a kind at least.

It might be nice to get how it's supposed to be; otherwise, believe me a speed 31 cloaked ship can be hard to stop.

FireSoul · « **Reply #216 on:** June 17, 2003, 11:20:11 am »

Since no one else did this, I flew the CENL myself. I could only fire 2 PLaFs at the enemy at a time, with a delay of 8 impulses between each. That is satisfactory.

So maybe the issue is the lack of power within PFs that has been reported.

-- Luc

FireSoul · « **Reply #217 on:** June 17, 2003, 06:12:08 pm »

Attention ALL.

If you can think of better Orion weapon loadouts that are SFB-legal and 100% local empire based, I want to know about it! Please check in my 2.1c shiplist to make sure I don't already have it.

-- Luc

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #218 on:** June 17, 2003, 09:09:50 pm »

I think the thing I hated worst about the orion ships was the lack of heavy weapons, not that they didn't have the space for them but there would be an AMD or plasma D's in valuable heavy option mounts. Sure, the drone/fighter defense comes in handy in many situations but no more so than a disruptor or a phaser does.

FireSoul · « **Reply #219 on:** June 17, 2003, 09:40:02 pm »

I .. uhh.. didn't mean general loadouts..
... I meant specific..

like: " a DCR with 2x___ and ____ isn't made for cartel ____."

News:

Topic: OP+ corrections thread (Read 70330 times) var addthis_config = {"data_track_clickback":true};

FireSoul

FPF_TraceyG

Sethan

IndyShark

Bernard Guignard

Rod O'neal

FireSoul

Sten

FireSoul

Rod O'neal

Strafer

FireSoul

Holocat

MadElf

The_Infiltrator

Strafer

FireSoul

FireSoul

jimmi7769

FireSoul

Topic: OP+ corrections thread (Read 70330 times)