Topic: OP+ corrections thread (Read 70333 times)

jdmckinney · « **Reply #160 on:** May 31, 2003, 09:17:15 am »

Well, consider this: none of the other races can use X-heavy rules, so why would the plasma races get better heavies? I'm not saying they don't deserve them, just that it is a factor to consider. If adding PlasD, what about all S and 2 additional Ds? Anyway, I think there are a number of good conversions. It might be worthwhile to test several.

FireSoul · « **Reply #161 on:** May 31, 2003, 10:30:19 am »

It the moment, I am in a state of "wait and see" ..
.. I'm waiting to see if my request for defensive-capable (on default) phX will be acknowledged.

*THE* best point concerning plasma I have heard is "if you downgrade it, it can probably be outrun. That's why I feel the downgrades I have already done is in error. I should have increased the BPV instead with the better PlasmaRs.

As for PlasmaD.. well.. killing 12 drones for free per rack seems, ..well, a bit much. The ship has all those ph1s.. oh sorry, phX, to be able to defend itself as well as be offensive. We've already discussed the phGs, so the ups and downs are all said, there.

.. anyways..
Let's wait and see what happens. There's still 1 patch left.
-- Luc

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #162 on:** May 31, 2003, 10:32:57 am »

man, those X-ships are a pain ain't they.

They stirred up all kinds of problems in SFB too.

FireSoul · « **Reply #163 on:** May 31, 2003, 10:35:53 am »

based on the (poorly populated) TechWars server..
.. they're a lot of fun, too.

-- Luc

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #164 on:** May 31, 2003, 10:45:23 am »

Never said they weren't fun, just a balancing nightmare.

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #165 on:** June 01, 2003, 12:19:42 am »

Just curious. Why don't you use PlaX for PlaM? Also, how do you adjust for the lack of a PlaL in SFC?

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #166 on:** June 01, 2003, 09:13:27 am »

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Just curious. Why don't you use PlaX for PlaM? Also, how do you adjust for the lack of a PlaL in SFC?

Plasma L is an easy one, they are identical to the Plasma G in every way except I think they only take up one option mount space.

FireSoul · « **Reply #167 on:** June 01, 2003, 09:48:12 am »

The PLaL also takes no power to hold the charged plasma inside, like the PLaF.

As for the PLaX.. it's too damned fast. speed 40? No way I'll use it.

FireSoul · « **Reply #168 on:** June 02, 2003, 11:29:30 pm »

Note to self:

The FX phasers on the Lyran BBs are actually KFX. (Klingon FX boom arc)
Needs correction/review.

FireSoul · « **Reply #171 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:32:31 am »

yes, R10 is indeed essential. However, I don't know if I have that cash to spare. Same goes for J2 which I haven't seen in my town yet.. .. in fact I don't know if I'll add ships from J2 yet.

.. as for copying ships from Captain's Logs.. well.. there's a good reason why I don't do it often: the SSDs given don't cover all races. Because of balance, when a type of ship is released, I want to be able to add all of the race's variants of this ship.

The only exception I have made was to use CL #16's X1 Drone Bombardment ships.

-- Luc

jdmckinney · « **Reply #172 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:34:33 am »

That CDX should fill the X-bombardment void for the Kzinti. As for the cash, well I've already preordered my copies of both, so if you need some stats...

FireSoul · « **Reply #173 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:36:10 am »

I need more than stats.. I need to _own_ them. I think I'll borrow from strafer or something.
-- Luc

jdmckinney · « **Reply #174 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:46:32 am »

I know how you feel.

I'm just glad I stumbled upon these at the ADB site. I never buy from shops, because the only one nearby doesn't stock the new stuff reliably. I order everything from ADB, and I've never had a problem getting what I want. Anyway, R10 is a BIG DEAL. I wasn't expecting it to be the next major release, so it's a bit of a surprise.

FireSoul · « **Reply #175 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:47:36 am »

Where can I find the preorder link for R10?
-- Luc

jdmckinney · « **Reply #176 on:** June 05, 2003, 11:05:39 am »

Main site for ADB's online sales: http://www.starfleetstore.com/

Direct link to R10 page: Module R10: The New Cruisers

Direct link to CL26 page: Captain's Log 26

FireSoul · « **Reply #177 on:** June 05, 2003, 12:18:47 pm »

The Z-CCX2 is way way WAY over the top.
6 gatlings, 4 MIRVs 57 power which means it goes speed 31 and Overloads the 4 dizzies all the time..

Things I can do:
1- "R" designation. I don't want that thing on the D2. Ever.
2- Shipedit itself says that it's 20 BPV *UNDER*priced. .. and that's at LEAST.

.. that ship has no place in the shiplist..why I never noticed it before, nor looked at it closely, I am not sure. But KOTH and KAT be damned, that ship isn't staying as-is. I need opinions.

-- Luc

jdmckinney · « **Reply #178 on:** June 05, 2003, 12:24:57 pm »

Without looking closely, I'd say no non-Hydran ship should get 6 gatlings. Also, 4 MIRVs seems excessive. If that were 2 MIRVs and 2 Bs, it would still be plenty of drones in the air (does it have other drones as well?). The power curve is tricky. It seems the Taldren default was perhaps not as far off on power as some thought (myself included). Maybe stepping it down by a couple power boxes at a time and testing on GSA would help to find a sweet spot.

FireSoul · « **Reply #179 on:** June 05, 2003, 12:26:09 pm »

The D5XD is overpriced. It's currently at 214BPV..
.. based on data, it should come down to maybe .. 190? .. -25BPV. 189 BPV sounds ok?
.. compare with the K-D5D.. it is only at 116 BPV.

Other comparaison:

K-D5L: 133
K-D5X: 197.

It sounds about right from gameplay perspective too.

-- Luc

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