Topic: OP+ shiplist version 2.1 is ready and up. (Read 10614 times)

FireSoul · « **on:** May 01, 2003, 06:36:39 pm »

I'm making a version 2.1b which is the same as this 2.1 minus the 2/3rds fighters changes. Please wait till I release 2.1b.

.. and I screwed up and deleted the 2.1 site by accident. Oops?
I'm currently writing version 2.1b's site.

anyways.. download 2.1b from here:
http://208.57.228.4/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=78893&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1

-- Luc

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #1 on:** May 01, 2003, 07:08:53 pm »

Thank you Firesoul!

KF

Cleaven · « **Reply #2 on:** May 01, 2003, 07:59:30 pm »

Ta muchly.

Tumulorum Fossor · « **Reply #3 on:** May 01, 2003, 08:05:54 pm »

Hail, Firesoul.

(bow, bow, bow)

[Repeat]

Man, it looks like I picked a good time to revisit the forums!

Time to update!

Hey, any Taldren feedback on new arcs, Firesoul?

-TF

FireSoul · « **Reply #4 on:** May 01, 2003, 08:08:58 pm »

None.
.. well.. they're all working very hard to get something ready for E3. .. so ..

TarMinyatur · « **Reply #5 on:** May 01, 2003, 11:26:24 pm »

I noticed you placed ADDs in Weapons slots(11-25) instead of Heavy Weapon slots(1-10) where they traditionally go. I assume this makes no difference since they require no energy. If so, that's a good way to relieve the often cramped HW slots.

P.S. Take a look at the WVL and VUL+. Those 2xPlas-R hardpoints are screaming for relief and there's two empty HW slots to use. Unfortunately the KVL would need a Condor UI or similar to split its overstuffed 2xPlas-R. It's not aesthetically pleasing but it works.

P.P.S. I suggest you take a look at the I-CVLS and I-CSZ bpvs. These ships have identical weaponry. The CVLS has one less power, gets 6 fighters(12 bpv), and somehow costs 8 less than the CSZ! The CVLS should be about 8 more than the CSZ...not the other way around. The L-NCA vs NCAL bpv is eye-catching too. 2 bpv gets one heck of a refit.

FireSoul · « **Reply #6 on:** May 01, 2003, 11:33:00 pm »

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I noticed you placed ADDs in Weapons slots(11-25) instead of Heavy Weapon slots(1-10) where they traditionally go. I assume this makes no difference since they require no energy. If so, that's a good way to relieve the often cramped HW slots.

That's right.

Quote:

P.S. Take a look at the WVL and VUL+. Those 2xPlas-R hardpoints are screaming for relief and there's two empty HW slots to use. Unfortunately the KVL would need a Condor UI or similar to split its overstuffed 2xPlas-R. It's not aesthetically pleasing but it works.

I deemed the UI more important in this case, right off the bat. Sorry.
EDIT: .. although.. you're right. I could split the Rs for the WVL and VUL+ without changing the UI.

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P.P.S. I suggest you take a look at the I-CVLS and I-CSZ bpvs. These ships have identical weaponry. The CVLS has one less power, gets 6 fighters(12 bpv), and somehow costs 8 less than the CSZ! The CVLS should be about 8 more than the CSZ...not the other way around. The L-NCA vs NCAL bpv is eye-catching too. 2 bpv gets one heck of a refit.

Allright, I will check these later. They're essentially going into a "TODO" list for a future release.

-- Luc

Corbomite · « **Reply #7 on:** May 02, 2003, 03:49:00 am »

ISC light carriers get 8 fighters, not 6.

Mog · « **Reply #9 on:** May 02, 2003, 10:23:51 am »

Holocat, ideally you need to use ShipEdit to create new ships. In SFC2, the phasers need to be in the phaser section so that the capacitor knows how much power is need to charge them. If you put phasers into a heavy weapon slot in SFC2, it screws the capacitor up.

Holocat · « **Reply #11 on:** May 02, 2003, 10:30:12 am »

The ship i'm making is using a custom built model with taldren textures, ie: scratch. I still have to convert to .mod, place the dummy objects for damage(?) and hardpoints, center it if not centered properly, and texture it. It's not a new ship in a sense that it's a custom design, like different power or weapons or something. It's a new ship, from the ground up.

Thanks for letting me know about the phaser capacitor thing though; That should save me quite some grief testing.

Speaking of which, I should contact Revenant,

Holocat.

FireSoul · « **Reply #16 on:** May 02, 2003, 12:07:37 pm »

It is indeed my project... but I find it important to ask people's opinions.

Worst case scenario:
- I throw out version 2.1
- I rework from version 2.0, minus 2/3rds change
- I re-release as 2.1b

Since no one told me it was a bad idea, I went ahead with the 2/3rds fighter changes. Now, I have the impression that people think it was a bad idea after all. I need to know if you do or don't want this change to stay.

Corbo obviously thinks not. Anyone else?
-- Luc

IndyShark · « **Reply #18 on:** May 02, 2003, 12:35:28 pm »

Firesoul, I like what you are doing and I think it makes sense. I'd keep it the way it is and keep trying to improve it.

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