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Scipio_66

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Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« on: April 28, 2003, 11:05:55 pm »
Don't you just hate it when:

 *Your CheeseHawk looks just like your CheatingBird?
 *You can't tell your 6 drone rack super-ship from your 8 drone rack uber-ship?
 *Your light loser looks just like your mega-PF dispenser?

Well, it bugs me.  So when I design the installer for Slave Girls 3, there are going to be some changes.   Each distincitive hull type will be given its own folder and the ability to have its own model.  (If you don't want to be bothered, you'll never notice the difference.  But if you want diversify your fleet then the folders will be there for you to use)

I CAN DO THIS FOR EVERYONE IF YOU WISH (Scroll down for directions)

For the Gorn, here is what I'm going to do.  The usual 5 Gorn ship folders will be expanded to 12 ship folders, allowing Gorn players who wish  to use a different model for each significantly different hull configuration.  The folders will look like this  (This list is not exhaustive, as I 've chosen not to give away any surprises from the SG3 shiplist.) :

GFF
G-FF
G-FF+

GDD
G-DD
G-DD+
G-DDF
G-DDG
G-DDL

GBD
G-BDD
G-BDD+
G-BDG
G-BDL

GBDP
G-BDP

GHDD
G-HDD
G-HDD+
G-CDD

GHDP
G-HDP

GCL
G-CL
G-CL+
G-CLF
G-COM
G-SR

GMC
G-CM
G-CS
G-MCC

GCA
G-CA
G-CA+
G-BC
G-CC
G-CC+
G-CCF
G-CCH
G-BF

GBCH
G-BCH

GDN
G-DN
G-DNL
G-DNF
G-DNT
G-DNP
G-DNH

GBB
G-BB



I can do the same for each of the races when I make the installer.  Again, you will never notice this if you don't want to install any new models.  The game will appear to work just like it always did.  But if you want, you can have the chance to have a truly diverse-looking fleet.

So, let's hear from all the races.  Which ships would you like to have pulled out from their "common" folders so that you can use a model that more closely resembles the actual ship (or just looks cool)?

Speak up, or I'll have the installer reduce all your fleet to a single model that just happens to look like a brick.  And not a pretty brick either.

-S'Cipio  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Scipio_66 »

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2003, 11:14:30 pm »
You big sexy Gorno, Kroma is smitten.....XXXOOO

Would it also be possible to split out the BF?

FatherTed

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2003, 11:17:36 pm »
That's one thing I never understood. Why did Taldren change out the Hydran and Bruce models from SFB? The Hydran looks like a mutated Klink and the flying stapler speaks for itself.  

Scipio_66

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2003, 11:25:52 pm »
Quote:

The Kroma twirled and giggled:
You big sexy Gorno, Kroma is smitten.....XXXOOO

Would it also be possible to split out the BF?  




Kroma, dear heart, it's no problem.  In fact, within the GDA forum, I can even come up with a BF model that has your picture on the wing.  Or a fluffy picture of J'inn, if that's what you're (still) into.

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Father Ted did bless us, and ask (in his mercy):
That's one thing I never understood. Why did Taldren change out the Hydran and Bruce models from SFB? The Hydran looks like a mutated Klink and the flying stapler speaks for itself.




Beats me.  The Lyran and Mirak ships are at least similar to their source material, but I've no idea why the Taldren artist came up with those Hydran and Gorn ships.  They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think Taldren's artist was cross-eyed.  ;-)   (Just kidding.  I know tastes differ)

-S'Cipio  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Scipio_66 »

FatherTed

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2003, 11:34:24 pm »
If you can tell me how, I'd love to get some custom mods for Hydran and Bruce ships. I can't stand to look at that flying stapler. Bring back the saucers!    

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2003, 11:36:09 pm »
Quote:

Or a fluffy picture of J'inn, if that's what you're (still) into.



Oh please, J'inn is sooooo yesterday.....I have my eye on KOTH Steel Claw these days.

I would love to be able to use that new TOS original model for the BF though without making all the CA's look that way. Maybe add a gornographic projection of me out in front of the ship though  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Kroma_BaSyl »

FatherTed

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2003, 11:40:22 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

Or a fluffy picture of J'inn, if that's what you're (still) into.



Oh please, J'inn is sooooo yesterday.....I have my eye on KOTH Steel Claw these days.

I would love to be able to use that new TOS original model for the BF though without making all the CA's look that way. Maybe add a gornographic projection of me out in front of the ship though    




Darn, the old Taldren boards are gone. I was just going to find the link to the "J'inn at Home" thread.  

Scipio_66

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2003, 11:52:46 pm »
Quote:

If you can tell me how, I'd love to get some custom mods for Hydran and Bruce ships. I can't stand to look at that flying stapler. Bring back the saucers!    




My favorite site for SFB-style Gorn Models is the War Refit Dock:
http://members.fortunecity.com/sfcspacedock/index.htm
There are some great models for other races in there as well.


For a general-prupose site from which to download SFB-style models, my favorite is Fleetdock 13.  Go to the "Archive (pre-2002)" section for the really good stuff:
http://www.strategyplanet.com/sfc/omega/fleetdock13/

-S'Cipio  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Scipio_66 »

FPF_TraceyG

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2003, 12:03:43 am »
The Taldren Gorn models tend to remind me more of the FASA Gorn models, which were also flying bricks.

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2003, 04:14:38 am »
agreed on that Tracey.

But I have a foundness for the FASA game considering I never played SFB.....

Also, I loved the Andor class photon cruiser.  Which I would love to see.... a CFS with better arcs.  Of course the Andor would end up being like a NCM with no drone defense.... but 8 photons.... heh-heh

Dizzy

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2003, 04:37:31 am »
You know what, Bear... Why not. Email me the specs for that Andor. I'll put it in the shiplist so we have it for testing during the 1 week test run. We will get feedback on it... and see if it flies...

jimmi7769

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2003, 08:50:07 am »
Lyrans and Feds need a lot of seperate models.

I think the Klingons really only need a few more.  

D5W/DWC needs it's own
F6
E5
E6
E7
Tug
(not that anyone flies any of these)

Feds need
DW
OCL(old light cruiser)
POL
BCV
tug
(maybe they don't need that many)

Lyran
BC
CW
DW
MP
POL

just to start with.  I think the Hyrdans need a little adjustment as well

Maxillius

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2003, 09:25:29 am »
if it were possible to switch models during a mission, I'd say any ship with PF capability could have one model with PF's attatched, and another with just the ship.  I doubt it would be feasible space-wise to make separate models for 1, 2, and 3 pfs attatched, but hey, I've got 80 gigs so fire away

wanderer

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2003, 10:28:18 am »
Ah, S'Cipio, you're a classy lizard, sir.

For the Feds;

fdw -Ortega Class (DW, DWC, DWD, CDW, DWA, DWV, HDW)
focl -Texas Class (CL, CL+, CLD, CLD+, ECL)
fnca -Chicago Class (NCA, NCM, NCC)
fcav -Byrd Class (GSC, GSC+, CVL, CVL+ / Nimitz Class CVS, CVS+ CVB)
fbce -Excelsior Class

Hey, Padre, all of my Gorn and most of my Hydran are Thu11's http://www.feralyards.co.uk/
-he has a lot of other great stuff as well.  

Dizzy

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2003, 10:34:52 am »
Simply, the SG3 D/L S'Cipio has been so kind to create will have a one click dos installer that will install ALL files, mods, shiplist, etc. that you will need to logon to the server. Just D/L and click to install, then log on. That simple. To unistall everything back to your stock GSA or original configuration, simply click the dos uninstall and you are as you were b4 the SG3 mod.

In addition, this dos installer will duplicate the following folders in your Models directory so that you may substitute them if you so desire with a different model.

 ***Unless otherwise noted, the ship listed also includes the '+' refits and or varients, also each line represents a single folder with those models pointed to that directory. New directories will have different names***

 For example, the Fed CA uses the stock Taldren model fca folder. This D/L dos Installer will duplicate this folder and rename it fcae enabling you to use TOS model in its place. The GSC, CVL and CFS series that also use the fca folder will be duplicated and renamed as fcav enabling you to represent these models with a new one, etc...  

  Ok, in addition to the models listed by S'Cipio for the Gorns, I see these  Fed  ships having duplicate copied seperate folders:

    BCV
    BCE
    BCF, BCJ, BCG

    CFS, CVL, GSC

    CA (Only)

    CAI

    CAD

    CFS (May be replaced by the Andor CA)

    NCA, NCM, NCC

    DN, DN+

    CL, CLD, ECL


Lyrans

 
    BCPP, BCP+, BCH (These are the only 3x L-BC's in the SG3 shiplist that use the CA Model)

    NCA, NCE, NCAL, NCHL


 Klingons:

 
    D5W, DWC

    C7, C7V

    E6, F6

    C4, C5's


 ISC:

 
    CC, CCY, CCZ, BCV

    CVA, CVAZ


 Hydran:

 
    CHA, CHC

    OV

    OS

    UH, UH+

    LNHA, LNHB

    CAV, CAV+


 Romulan

 
    KCR

    KHK

    WE, WER, KE

    KDR, KDP


 Mirak

 
    BCH, BCV

    NCA, NCC

    CVA


 If you want to add a folder to the list above, please do, because I am sure I left a few out...


EDIT: In addition, new PF Leaders are included in the mod D/L to differentiate them from other PF's, allowing for easily recognizable PF Leader varients, one per flotilla according to SG3 CnC.


     
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Dizzy »

FatherTed

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2003, 11:35:00 am »
So you're saying that this installer will automatically swap out the models without me having to root through codes to switch them? If so, I'll be one happy camper.    

Dizzy

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2003, 11:49:14 am »
No.

It creates COPIES of your model folders. A benign feature that will not be used unless a shiplist has a starship that points to that model folder.

The SG shiplist itself points to these new folders.

If you are a model savy person and like a truely diverse fleet, then this gives you the ability to add in different mods. If not, you wont notice the difference, cept maybe a few extra megs taken up by the duplicate model folders...  

EDIT:

Maybe I didnt understand your question, so Ill answer in a different manner.

Once you click on the dos installer, it sets you up for SG3. Logon and play.

Later, lets say you want to do a few GSA games. Easy, just clock the dos unistaller and it takes you back to the way your setup was before you installed the SG3 mod.

Afterwards, you want to hop back on SG3, just click the dos auto installer and it sets you up for SG3 again... Very simple.

I hope that clears it up
« Last Edit: April 29, 2003, 11:53:15 am by Dizzy »

FatherTed

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2003, 11:59:25 am »
Rats! Rooting through code makes me very nervous.

Dizzy

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2003, 01:59:00 pm »
No.

There is no rooting thru code. One click to install it all, once click to uninstall it all. FT, you didnt read my post :P

FatherTed

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Re: Unique Ship Models in SG3 (Fandango Fantastico)
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2003, 02:40:06 pm »
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No.

There is no rooting thru code. One click to install it all, once click to uninstall it all. FT, you didnt read my post :P  




Whaa frickin' whaa. I was asking about adding mods so I can look at real ships and not those butt-ugly atrocities Taldren inflicted on the Hydrans and Bruces. I tried to download one last night from a link S'cippy provided, and the directions included manually changing code in the program. That is what I'm trying to avoid, not your snippy comments.