Topic: I miss the T Bomb (Read 13683 times)

sjvessey · « **Reply #80 on:** May 02, 2003, 07:15:11 am »

Who is Johnny Carson? Envelope to forehead? Sorry you lost me.

Perhaps I was just being pedantic but there certainly ARE plenty of ST games that bear no resemblance to SFB. And correct me if I'm wrong but Elite Force seemed pretty successful to me. Even though success or not has little to do with the veracity of the original post.

And slap me on the wrist for using the word 'realistic' when in fact the poster I quoted said 'properly'. Seems like this is a tautology here. If you define 'proper' starship combat as that you find in SFB then of course SFB will be the only 'proper' starship combat simulator.

My point, however, is simply that SFB and all the SFC titles contain significant deviances from the series and movies purely for the sake of gameplay. In this sense, they aren't 'really' Star Trek at all and so to say that SFB is the only 'proper' Star Trek combat game is meaningless.

As for 'realistic', no I didn't mean well balanced self-consistent gameplay, I meant realistic. Neither the game nor the series is particularly realistic, and I don't just mean because the technology doesn't really exist. I mean that the use they make of the postulated technology is silly.

Hit and run raids? T-bombs? Why not just beam a bomb into the ship? Photon torpedoes? As I said elsewhere a 5 kilo antimatter warhead detonated next to a starship hull would release an energy pulse of over 100,000 terawatts, instantly vapourising everything within tens of miles of the epicentre. That's not future science, a guy from 1920 could have worked that out. Closing to within visual distance before firing off your weapons? Come on... you don't even do that in the 21st century.

Finally, if you think using the word 'crap' is crude you should head down to your local junior high and listen to what kids say in the schoolyard.

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #81 on:** May 02, 2003, 08:10:29 am »

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Who is Johnny Carson? Envelope to forehead? Sorry you lost me.

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Mog · « **Reply #82 on:** May 02, 2003, 08:22:16 am »

I started playing SFC1 online in August 2000. I started playing SFC2:EAW the day it was released. I started playing SFC2:OP the day it was released. I still play EAW and OP online, and can see myself continuing to do so untill the day my computer will no longer run the software. SFC3 lasted about a week for me. It has been uninstalled and filed away under B for Bin. Point is, some people like the older games, some people like the new game. Arguing about it seems pointless to me. Attacking the games (or their source of inspiration) also seems pointless to me (Tulmahk - you seem to have replaced Nannerslug as the anti-SFB lead spokesperson around here). Just play whichever version you enjoy best and have fun.

sjvessey · « **Reply #85 on:** May 02, 2003, 09:58:17 am »

It's called 'suspension of disbelief'.

However, if you want a good (i.e. much more based in real physics) description of what future space warfare MIGHT look like, read 'The Reality Dysfunction' by a guy called Peter Hamilton.

Mentat Jon · « **Reply #86 on:** May 02, 2003, 08:02:04 pm »

I just miss T bombing,oh well I shall carry on,hit and run with transpoters,The Marine is your freind.

Cleaven · « **Reply #89 on:** May 02, 2003, 09:23:51 pm »

But I thought you were one of the few who played SFB out of a plastic bag.

Cleaven · « **Reply #91 on:** May 02, 2003, 10:40:24 pm »

That was part of the reason I decided to buy the volumes instead of just playing with my friends' gear (models too).

mbday · « **Reply #92 on:** May 04, 2003, 07:49:21 am »

I can say that I have played SFB, SFC1, SFC2, SFC2 OP. SFC3, EF, KA, SFA, and D&D.
SFB is SFB. SFC is SFC SFC2 and OP are SFC2 and OP SFC3 is SFC3 so on.
The point some poeple do not SFC3 or D&D and some poeple do.
Some people do not like SFB, SFC1, 2, or OP and some Do.
Why can't we all stop bashing each other.
Can't we all get along?
They are all games let shake hands and get on witrh life.
I like all of the games.

Mentat Jon · « **Reply #94 on:** May 04, 2003, 11:16:15 pm »

I feel really God Damn Old now,there is a generation of persons who dont know who JonnyCarson is,

a few days ago I had to Explain who Ernest Borgine is.

Kid didnt know "the Black Hole"" Mchales Navy" " The wild bunch"

and to top it all off I found a grey hair ****!!!!!!

ps to stick in the thread topic : still miss my T bombs

ok back to felling old,and Jonny Carson.

cheers...

DONOTDELETE · « **Reply #96 on:** May 05, 2003, 07:43:49 am »

My only reply will be that I dont miss T-bombs, as my Firesoul updated OP shiplist lets me use them to my hearts content. I enjoyed SFC3 till they came out with an "official beta patch" at which point I promptly gave it up. If and when they come out with an OFFICAL "Official patch" I'll try it again.

Anyways, I wont go into my opinon on this, any of you know DO know that Ed worked for Johnny KNOW my opnion, but I just wanted to post to get one shot closer to Captain.

Have a nice day!

JMM · « **Reply #97 on:** May 09, 2003, 01:20:08 am »

SFC being polluted by SFB? I think not. If you want your star trek game put out by another company, may I suggest you go buy an Atari 5600 and play that combat simulator? Or better yet, go play Stellar Track on the Atari 2600, you should get all the fun you deserve...

Cyberkada · « **Reply #98 on:** May 09, 2003, 04:42:00 am »

I put away and uninstalled SFCIII already (had it since Beta). I'm back with EAW and OP. Why? The richness of weapons and other systems inspired by SFB. I'm a baggy Klingon - been playing since 1981 or so. The only thing I wish Khoromag would patch in EAW and OP is RE-VER-SE. I have to admit it does add another element of tactics to the game. And yes, officers would be nice as well.

After I went back to EAW and OP from SFCIII, I found I was getting plastered on a regular basis until I rethought my stategy - both with BEER and by opponents ships.

There is nothing better than watching a ship get destroyed when my ESG impacts your hull.

Hell, if SFC was really canon to Star Trek, we'd end up with lots of tiring speeches and feel-good diplomacy - not combat.

How many times did we actually see an actual battle in ST:TNG? (Puts on Flame-retardant suit)

I too miss my T-Bomb.

Mog · « **Reply #99 on:** May 09, 2003, 05:14:22 am »

Actually I would have to disagree with adding Reverse , if it was done so that you could reverse at full speed. The quarter speed in SFC3 isn't bad, but I could see the Retrograde becoming the common tactic if it was introduced so that you could go flat out in reverse. It would be the final death-knell of the non-PPD plasma races, who have a pretty hard time of it already against good players, without the Plasma Bolt option.

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