Topic: I miss the T Bomb (Read 13866 times)

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #60 on:** April 25, 2003, 09:58:13 am »

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Also, I'm not sure if it works, but I think I recal Erratic Maneuvers does reduce the odds (or possibly eliminates) H&R raids from occuring on the target ship. You might want to see if EM protects you from H&R.

EM doesn't stop hit and runs,

Also T-Bombs still exist......you just have to play EAW or OP to get them.....It does still work you know.

SghnDubh · « **Reply #61 on:** April 25, 2003, 12:07:36 pm »

Alas, the old forums are indeed history (I thought I could find the thread, but you have to type inside the URL and the search feature doesn't work there).

So you'll miss out on my original thread, "I miss T-Bombs" in which someone unknown (probably Moofighters

) registered as TBOMB and other pseudonyms and proceeded to tease me relentlessly.

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #62 on:** April 25, 2003, 12:19:01 pm »

I'd like to see T-bombs in SFC3.

Tulmahk · « **Reply #64 on:** April 26, 2003, 02:17:29 am »

Go play SFC2 then, and stop trying to make SFC3 like SFC2.

With any luck, the next great Star Trek starship combat sim will be put out by another company without any of this drag-the-game-down SFB luggage to ruin it.

Magnum357 · « **Reply #67 on:** April 26, 2003, 07:09:37 pm »

Agreed! I that joker above can tell me what Star Trek game hasn't been influenced by SFB in some way I would be shocked. SFB has been the only game that has ever portrayed Star Trek ship combat properly and for this joker to say that it has bad influences to other Star Trek games is being stupied. Granted, maybe SFB needs a slight face lift in game mechanics (like focusing away from 6 sided dice of a board game and utilizing the computering power of the PC) but the basic game design works and is very balanced.

Heck, that idiot should give credit to SFB because even though SFC3 could use some improvements in my opinion, its by far the best Star Trek tactical combat game out their.

ActiveX · « **Reply #68 on:** April 27, 2003, 03:31:06 am »

T-bombs are canon...

Mentat Jon · « **Reply #70 on:** April 27, 2003, 10:12:58 pm »

its just T-bombing was such a good tatic,some guy chasing you,you drop a little freind in their way,boom,

Alexander1701 · « **Reply #71 on:** April 28, 2003, 01:01:54 am »

For point of fact, in SFC3, your boarding parties DO station themselves to prevent hit and runs. That's why you'll lose some marines during a hit and run, thats why a good tactical officer means less likely system loss, and that's why the 'run' part never seems to occur.

Alexander

Monk · « **Reply #73 on:** April 28, 2003, 07:05:30 pm »

I've been playing EAW and lurking aound here for about a year, but have never posted to this forum. So, feel free to ignore me. :-) But I'm confused by Pestalece's statement that game speed 9 in SFC is real time. It's been a VERY long time since I played SFB, but I seem to recall one turn (the time required for a phaser to recharge) equaling a minute. In EAW, that equates to game speed 5, I think. Anyway, I have tried EAW at game speeds higher than 5 and just am not digging it. You seem to lose so much of the simulation--adjusting your speed, playing with ECM, etc. The ships even look a little silly at speed 7 and up as they wiggle around the screen like they're on a fast forwarded video. I've avoided D2 for this very reason. Just can't get into the high game speeds, which is all that seems to be available. Anyway, I freely admit to being a newbie around here but I just thought I'd toss in my $.02.

Credo Narth · « **Reply #77 on:** May 02, 2003, 05:22:56 am »

Eh...?

sjvessey, you're obviously looking for a flame war.

Firing arcs... SFB, and SFC 1 and 2, features much wider arcs than SFC 3. They are, however, based on reality as much as on Star Trek. How often do you see Yoyager's port phaser bank firing starboard? In ST2 TWOK, the Enterprise's port phasers fire out to port, not starboard. By the design of the phaser, you could tell that it had a limited firing arc. So in the show, they can't actually fire where they want to.

Recharging phasers... Au contraire. In ST Nemesis, the Enterprise ends up with it's phaser coils burnt out. Every time a red alert is called, they charge phasers. Sure, they take a lot less time than in SFC/SFB, but think about it. Can you really prepare a 800 metre strip of phaser coils for firing in 3 seconds? I would say the show reduces this time because it's expedient, not because it reflects reality.

HETs... Never seen any ship in Star Trek perform a high energy turn. But the HET recharge rate makes sense... You make be able to turn a Galaxy on a dime using internal dampening fields and by overloading the structural integrity fields, but these would then need time to be repaired and prepared before they could next be used.

Shields dropping at warp... Didn't the Enterprise E get directly hit in Nemesis at warp? Causing her to lose warp power and hence drop in sub-light speeds? Enough said.

Low power of weapons... Try flying the Scimitar against a Valdore in Skirmish mode, I believe you'll find it has ample power. Also, why not drop your shields and try getting an alpha strike from a Warbird. Watch the pretty colours as your hull goes poof.

Star Trek ship combat compromises reality for the sake of time as well as simplicity. SFB evolved over many years as an experiment of what people could do given the technology available. Hence missiles, scatterpacks, wild weasels, t-bombs, ECM/ECCM and the like. It is very detailed, but far more accurate than any Star Trek battle.

You should try it. I reckon you'll find that not only is SFB combat different, it's also a lot better.

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