Topic: Correction on CnC rules

[JMM]

This is to let everyone know that there was an error in the CnC rules for litterbox 3, it states on the condensed version that you have to hold the rank of Admiral to fly a DN class vessel ( CVA is classed as a DN ), this is not correct as per SFC2.net rules, the correct rank for a DN class is ANY rank of Admiral, including Rear Admiral. This post was made so that noone goes CVA happy when they show in the yards, I'm a firm believer in playing by the rules...

BB is only for the Fleet Admirals until otherwise changed by server admins and administrators...

Have fun! I know I am!  

[TheMaverick]

Gotta be bloody rear admiral.... Oy the only good mirak ships are DN's and they are sub standard as it is LMAO (ok not really they are actually rather fun)

Anyone know what the setting to reach rear admiral is on Fluf's server? (It's the same as DOE) but not sure what it is.

[Dizzy]

would you plz post a link to the CnC. I havent read the rules yet

[KBF-Dogmatix]

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Gotta be bloody rear admiral.... Oy the only good mirak ships are DN's and they are sub standard as it is LMAO (ok not really they are actually rather fun)

Anyone know what the setting to reach rear admiral is on Fluf's server? (It's the same as DOE) but not sure what it is.  

Nothing sub-standard about the Z-DN in early era to middle era or the Z-CVA in any era.


You want substandard?  Try the F-DN or the C8/9.  




 

[KBF-Dogmatix]

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I'm a firm believer in playing by the rules...

Have fun! I know I am!  

Aren't we all?  On both accounts?  



 

[Kroma_BaSyl]

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Gotta be bloody rear admiral.... Oy the only good mirak ships are DN's and they are sub standard as it is LMAO (ok not really they are actually rather fun)

Anyone know what the setting to reach rear admiral is on Fluf's server? (It's the same as DOE) but not sure what it is.  

Nothing sub-standard about the Z-DN in early era to middle era or the Z-CVA in any era.


You want substandard?  Try the F-DN or the C8/9.  




 

Try the G-DN...yuke

[TheMaverick]

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Gotta be bloody rear admiral.... Oy the only good mirak ships are DN's and they are sub standard as it is LMAO (ok not really they are actually rather fun)

Anyone know what the setting to reach rear admiral is on Fluf's server? (It's the same as DOE) but not sure what it is.  

Nothing sub-standard about the Z-DN in early era to middle era or the Z-CVA in any era.


You want substandard?  Try the F-DN or the C8/9.  




 

Fed DN *snicker*

C5 fun dread, C8 Mean dread, C9 it isn't a dread it's an abomination.

And yes the Z-DN is probably the better DN out of all races for when it comes out.

[Karnak]

The one and only greatest DN of the galaxy:






























I-CCZ

[Green]

Unfortunately, by the time you can afford a Z-DN it is far from the best dread (not even close).  But I have to agree, its not as bad as the F-DN.    

[KBF-Dogmatix]

Heh..that pretty much goes for any DN out right now, unless you're like some and can practically live online.

I'd be shocked if I get within 40-50K of being able to afford a DN by the time this server concludes.  Of course, that doesn't bother me too much since I loathe flying them in the first place.





 

[Gumby]

 I cannot say that any of the DN's suck, since I'm really only familiar with 2 of them.  And I like both the R-CON and the H-PAL.
     

[Dizzy]

Whats the addy to the CnC

[TheMaverick]

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The one and only greatest DN of the galaxy:






























I-CCZ  

Uber bastards lmao =)

nice call the CCZ is the best DN in the game lol

[Corbomite]

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The one and only greatest DN of the galaxy:






























I-CCZ  

Uber bastards lmao =)

nice call the CCZ is the best DN in the game lol  

NOT!! Rom PRA is the best. The Condor line is the only line of dreds in the game with a 100% HET rating!!!  

[Toten]

What R u guys SMOKIN !

 everyone knows the best bang for ur buck DN is the rommie KHK!  

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[Fluf]

here are the actual CnC rules:

 Command and Control rules:

1) You must hold at least the rank of Commodore to fly more than one ship.

2) You must hold at least the rank of Admiral to fly a DN Class ship. RMs and the S.A.C. are excluded from this rule.

3) You must hold the rank of Fleet Admiral to fly a BB Class ships.

4) Escort ships may not be flown solo.

5) Only one "Carrier" (see below) may be part of any players fleet.

6) A maximum of two fighter capable ships are allowed in any fleet. (Fighter capable means ANY ship that has the ability to carry fighters).

7) The maximum number of PFs in any fleet is 8.

8) Only one "Bombardment" ship (see below) may be part of any player's fleet.

9) Command Ships and their Command limitations are as follows:

Federation Command ships are:

POL+ (only if you want to fly 3 police ships)
DWC (2 War Destroyers or smaller, no "Escort" ships)
CLC/NVS (2 CL or smaller, 1 may be an "Escort" if you have the NVS)
NCC/CC/CC+/CB/CCR (2 CA's or smaller, 1 "Escort" allowed)
BCG/BCF/BCJ/BCE/BCV/BCT/BCT+ (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, 1 "Escort" allowed)
DN/DN+/ DNG/DNF/DNH (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, 2 "Escorts"
allowed)
CVA/CVA+ (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, 2 "Escorts" allowed)
CVS/CVS+/CVL/CVL+ (1 CA & 1 CL or smaller, 1 "Escort" allowed)
SCS (1 BC or smaller & 1 CA or smaller, 2 "Escorts" allowed)
BB (Any 2 ships, 2 "Escorts" allowed, no BBs)
Federation escort ships are:
FFE, FFE+, DE, DER, NEC, NAC

Federation Carriers are:
NVS,NVL,NVL+,CVS,CVS+,BCV,SCS,CVA,CVA+,AxCVA

Federation Bombardment ships are:
CAD,CAD+,CADR,NLD,NLD+,DWD

Gorn Command Ships are:

FF+ (only frigates)
DDL/DDL+ (only Destroyers or smaller)
BDL/BDL+/BDP (War Destroyers or smaller)
CDD/HDP/MCC (Light Cruisers or smaller)
CC/CC+/CCF/CCH/BF (2 CA's or smaller)
BCH/DNE/DNL/DN/DNF/DNT/DNH/DNP/BCHD/BCHV (Any 2 ships CA or smaller)
BB (Any 2 ships, no BB)

Gorn escort ships, carriers and bombardment ships are:
None.

Hydran Command Ships are:

GEN+/CU/CRU (only frigates, no escorts)
DWL (War Destroyers or smaller, no escorts)
UH/UH+/CNT/ERL/WAR (Destroyers or smaller, no escorts)
BAR/COM/APA/NVL/NVL+/COS (CL or smaller, no "Escorts")
SUI/SUI+ (2 CA's or smaller, 1 "Escort" allowed)
LC/LM/LB/D7H/CAV/CAV+ (2 CA's or smaller, 1 "Escort" allowed)
CHA/CHC/OV/OS/AB/OV+ (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, 1 "Escorts" allowed)
PAL/PAL+/PAH/IC/IC+/ID (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, 2 "Escorts"
allowed, no BB)
MNR/MNV (Any 2 ships, 2 "Escorts" allowed, no BB)

Hydran Escort ships are:
EH, DE, DE+, NEC, NEC+

Hydran Carriers are:
CAV,CAV+,COS,IC,IC+,ID,NVL,NVL+,OS,UH,UH+,MNV

Hydran Bombardment ships are:
None.

ISC Command Ships are:

FLG/FLGW/FFL (only frigates, no escorts)
CPF/CPFW ( 2 DD's or smaller, no escorts allowed)
CVL/CVLZ/CVLP/CVLS (2 CL or smaller, 1 escort allowed)
CC/CCY/CCZ/CV/CVZ/CVS/CVSZ/CCD/CVSD (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, 1 escort
allowed)
EDN/DN/DNZ/DNT/CVA/CVAZ/CVAD (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, 2 escorts
allowed, no BB)
BB/BBZ (Any 2 ships, 2 escorts allowed, no BB)

ISC Escort ships are:
FFE, DE, CE, CE+, DE+

ISC Carriers are:
CVL,CVLS,CV,CVS,CVA,BB,AxCVA, CVAD, CVSD

ISC Bombardment Ships are:
None.

Klingon Command Ships are:

G2C (only G2's)
F5C/F5L/F5CK/F5LK ( Destroyers or smaller, no escorts)
F5V/F5VK (Destroyers or smaller, no escorts)
FWC/FWL/F6 (War Destroyers or smaller, no escorts)
D5C/D5L/D5V/D5VK (CL's or smaller, no escorts (1 "Escort" if you have the D5V))
DWC/D5W/D7C/D7L/D7W/D7T/D7V/D7VK/D7LK/D7WK ( CA's or smaller, 1 escort)
C7/C7V/C7T/C7TK/C7K (2 CA's or smaller, 1 escort allowed)
C5/C5B/C5K (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, 1 escort allowed)
C8/C8B/C8K/C9/C9B/C9K/C10K/C8V/C8VK 2 ships CA or smaller, 2 escorts allowed)
B10/B10K/B10V (Any 2 ships, 2 escorts allowed, no BB)
B11K (Any 2 ships, 2 escorts allowed, no BB)

Klingon Escort ships are:
E3, E3E, E4E, E4EB, D5E, AD5,

Klingon Carriers are:
D6V,D6VK,D7V,D7VK,C7V,C8V,C8VK,B10,B10K,B10V,B11K,AxCVA, D5VK

Klingon Bombardment Ships are:
E4D,D5D,D6D,D6DB,D7D

Lyran Command ships are:

MP+ (MP only)
DWL/DWLP/PFT/PFW/PFWP (War Destroyer or smaller)
CWL/CWLP/CWLF ( CL or smaller)
CC/CC+/BC (2 CA's or smaller)
BCPP/BCPF/BCP+/BCF+/CCH/EGO/BCH/BCHP/BCHF/BCHV(Any 2 ships CA or smaller)
DN/DNP+/DNF+/DNPP/DNPF/DNH/ (Any 2 ships CA or smaller)
BB (Any 2 ships, no BB)

Lyran escort ships, carriers and bombardment ships are:
None.

Mirak Command ships are:

FLG (Frigates only, no escort)
DWL/DWV/MCC/MCV (War Destroyer or smaller, no "Escorts" unless you have a DWV or MCV, then 1 "Escort" allowed)
CC/CC+/CCH/CV/CLV/CLV+/NCC (CA's or smaller, 1 escort)
BCH/BCV/CVS/CVS+ (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, 1 escort allowed)
DN/DN+/DNH/CVA (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, 2 escorts allowed)
BB (Any 2 ships, 2 escorts allowed, no BB)

Mirak Escort ships are:
EFF, AFF, DWE, MEC, MAC

Mirak Carriers are:
MCV,CVE,CVE+,CLV,CLV+,CV,CVS,CVS+,BCV,CVA,BB,AxCVA

Mirak Bombarment ships are:
DWD,DF+,DF,MDC,MDC+,CD,CD+

Romulan Command ships are:

SNP+ (1 SNP only)
SEL (1 Frigate only)
WE/WER (1 WE/WER/WB only)KR (1 Destroyer or smaller only) Command abilities until 2265 only.
SKL/SKC/K5L/K5LB (1 Destroyer and 1 FF)
SPJ/SPL/SPL+/SPZ/KE/SPE/CH/KDP (1 CL and 1 DD or smaller only)
RDV/KDP (1 CL or smaller and 1 DD or smaller)
KRC/KRCS/SUA/KRP/SHA/SHK/SHK+ (2 CA's or smaller)
RHK/NHK/KCR/KHK/THK/THV (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, no BB)
KVL/K9R/K9RB/K9RH/CON/CON+/PRA/ROC (Any 2 ships CA or smaller, no BB)
K10R/KCN (Any 2 ships, no BB)

Romulan escort ships, carriers and bombardment ships are:
None  
 

[KOTH-Steel Claw]

If you are caught breaking the CnC rules, remember, it is FLUF's fault. Thank you and have a good day.

[jimmi7769]

How can the E3 be considered an escort??

Seems an oversight, not that I or anyone else would fly it anyway.  

[Gumby]

 A general question.  If you have more than one ship, how do you rearrange them so that your Command ship is automatically set as your starting ship for missions?  Can this be done without selling off and repurchasing your escorts?