Topic: Since first contact...

[ChamadaIV]

It has been more than a few occasions that the NX-01 Enterprise has encountered the Klingons in the series. The very "first contact" with them happened during the first episode when the Klingon courier "Klang" was delivered to the High Council on Qo'nos. A couple more incidents after that, and Earth has yet to face any signs of an impending war with the Klingons as canon has noted more than once in previous Trek series.

They say Earth's first contact with the Klinks ended in disaster and led to war. This is not the case with Archer's Enterprise. What is going on here? Is Rick Berman truly attempting to rewrite Trek history as we know it? Or is there something else I'm missing about this?  

[Alidar Jarok]

I wouldn't call their first contact a "smashing success" either

[Apocolypse]

   When talking about Enterprise and its non-canon attributes, i stick to my original idea. In some occurance of the temporal cold war i believe that the Enterprise and all its worthlessness will be erased from time, therefore keeping with tradition, and making time travel a huge part of yet another series finale  

[StarTrekcaptain]

I have posted something simialar in other ENterprise posts.  In the TNG episode "First Contact"  Picard says, and I quote

"First Contact is conducted this way after first contact with a race called the Klingons ended with almost a hundred years of hostilites"

Mr.Berman is re-writing Trek Cannon and should be shot!

[Alidar Jarok]

Well, the Klingons have been attacking Enterprise evey chance they get (and they are going to do so again later in the season)

I would call this hostility (It appears its going to get worse)  

[Tremok]

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Well, the Klingons have been attacking Enterprise evey chance they get (and they are going to do so again later in the season)

I would call this hostility (It appears its going to get worse)  

If only if it was the Romulans doing the bashing instead. You have to love the Early Bird-of-Prey .

Though, judging by what we learned about her during Minefield, I doubt it will be much of fight. (Romulan snicker)

[Alidar Jarok]

Vauthil Ssiun ch'Rihan

Victory for Romulus  

[sjvessey]

I doubt 're-writing history' is anyone's particular aim.  It's called 'artistic licence'.  This is only a TV show.  The point is to make money by providing some desirable content that people will tune in to so that the TV companies can sell their advertising slots.  If the powers that be believe that the best way of producing an interesting and exciting TV show that will sustain its popularity in the long term is to come up with some original storylines instead of blindly repeating what a few hard-core fans 'already know' then that's what they're going to do.  Maybe you shouldn't complain so much.  Die-hard Trek fans who actually care about adherence to 'canon' (which only has one 'n', by the way - a 'cannon' is a thing that shoots things) are a pretty small minority amongst TV-watching audiences as a whole.  One of the main reasons Farscape got binned was because costs were going up but they never managed to make the show appeal to a broader (and hence larger) audience, so revenues could never keep up.  At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself whether you'd prefer to have a series that isn't totally consistent with all the others, or no series at all.


   

[ChamadaIV]

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I doubt 're-writing history' is anyone's particular aim.  It's called 'artistic licence'.  This is only a TV show.  The point is to make money by providing some desirable content that people will tune in to so that the TV companies can sell their advertising slots.  If the powers that be believe that the best way of producing an interesting and exciting TV show that will sustain its popularity in the long term is to come up with some original storylines instead of blindly repeating what a few hard-core fans 'already know' then that's what they're going to do.  Maybe you shouldn't complain so much.  Die-hard Trek fans who actually care about adherence to 'canon' (which only has one 'n', by the way - a 'cannon' is a thing that shoots things) are a pretty small minority amongst TV-watching audiences as a whole.  One of the main reasons Farscape got binned was because costs were going up but they never managed to make the show appeal to a broader (and hence larger) audience, so revenues could never keep up.  At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself whether you'd prefer to have a series that isn't totally consistent with all the others, or no series at all.


   

A very good point. Thanks.  

My college roomate from not too long ago wondered what happened to his beloved Farscape. It was in the midst of a new season, and then "poof," that was it. I gave him a similar reason as to the one quoted above. He couldn't understand it, but it was more or less the truth from what I could surmise. I can only hope SCIFI Channel doesn't flop up with Stargate SG-1 (a much better show than Farscape, imo).

The ratings are what matters, as it ultimately leads to more advertising money (which UPN has struggled with somewhat since the day it launched almost 10 years ago, on a Wednesday night, with the first episode of Voyager).

"The mob is fickle..." - from Gladiator

Indeed it is. You must be flexible to give the masses what they want. Your hard-core fanbase is important, but making your product "mainstream" is where the big bucks are.

"Malcolm, go to Tactical Alert; raise shields and polarize the hull. Arm photon torpedoes and fire on my mark...",  



CIV out.    

[ChamadaIV]

It has been more than a few occasions that the NX-01 Enterprise has encountered the Klingons in the series. The very "first contact" with them happened during the first episode when the Klingon courier "Klang" was delivered to the High Council on Qo'nos. A couple more incidents after that, and Earth has yet to face any signs of an impending war with the Klingons as canon has noted more than once in previous Trek series.

They say Earth's first contact with the Klinks ended in disaster and led to war. This is not the case with Archer's Enterprise. What is going on here? Is Rick Berman truly attempting to rewrite Trek history as we know it? Or is there something else I'm missing about this?  

[Alidar Jarok]

I wouldn't call their first contact a "smashing success" either

[Apocolypse]

   When talking about Enterprise and its non-canon attributes, i stick to my original idea. In some occurance of the temporal cold war i believe that the Enterprise and all its worthlessness will be erased from time, therefore keeping with tradition, and making time travel a huge part of yet another series finale  

[StarTrekcaptain]

I have posted something simialar in other ENterprise posts.  In the TNG episode "First Contact"  Picard says, and I quote

"First Contact is conducted this way after first contact with a race called the Klingons ended with almost a hundred years of hostilites"

Mr.Berman is re-writing Trek Cannon and should be shot!

[Alidar Jarok]

Well, the Klingons have been attacking Enterprise evey chance they get (and they are going to do so again later in the season)

I would call this hostility (It appears its going to get worse)  

[Tremok]

Quote:
Well, the Klingons have been attacking Enterprise evey chance they get (and they are going to do so again later in the season)

I would call this hostility (It appears its going to get worse)  

If only if it was the Romulans doing the bashing instead. You have to love the Early Bird-of-Prey .

Though, judging by what we learned about her during Minefield, I doubt it will be much of fight. (Romulan snicker)

[Alidar Jarok]

Vauthil Ssiun ch'Rihan

Victory for Romulus  

[sjvessey]

I doubt 're-writing history' is anyone's particular aim.  It's called 'artistic licence'.  This is only a TV show.  The point is to make money by providing some desirable content that people will tune in to so that the TV companies can sell their advertising slots.  If the powers that be believe that the best way of producing an interesting and exciting TV show that will sustain its popularity in the long term is to come up with some original storylines instead of blindly repeating what a few hard-core fans 'already know' then that's what they're going to do.  Maybe you shouldn't complain so much.  Die-hard Trek fans who actually care about adherence to 'canon' (which only has one 'n', by the way - a 'cannon' is a thing that shoots things) are a pretty small minority amongst TV-watching audiences as a whole.  One of the main reasons Farscape got binned was because costs were going up but they never managed to make the show appeal to a broader (and hence larger) audience, so revenues could never keep up.  At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself whether you'd prefer to have a series that isn't totally consistent with all the others, or no series at all.


   

[ChamadaIV]

Quote:
I doubt 're-writing history' is anyone's particular aim.  It's called 'artistic licence'.  This is only a TV show.  The point is to make money by providing some desirable content that people will tune in to so that the TV companies can sell their advertising slots.  If the powers that be believe that the best way of producing an interesting and exciting TV show that will sustain its popularity in the long term is to come up with some original storylines instead of blindly repeating what a few hard-core fans 'already know' then that's what they're going to do.  Maybe you shouldn't complain so much.  Die-hard Trek fans who actually care about adherence to 'canon' (which only has one 'n', by the way - a 'cannon' is a thing that shoots things) are a pretty small minority amongst TV-watching audiences as a whole.  One of the main reasons Farscape got binned was because costs were going up but they never managed to make the show appeal to a broader (and hence larger) audience, so revenues could never keep up.  At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself whether you'd prefer to have a series that isn't totally consistent with all the others, or no series at all.


   

A very good point. Thanks.  

My college roomate from not too long ago wondered what happened to his beloved Farscape. It was in the midst of a new season, and then "poof," that was it. I gave him a similar reason as to the one quoted above. He couldn't understand it, but it was more or less the truth from what I could surmise. I can only hope SCIFI Channel doesn't flop up with Stargate SG-1 (a much better show than Farscape, imo).

The ratings are what matters, as it ultimately leads to more advertising money (which UPN has struggled with somewhat since the day it launched almost 10 years ago, on a Wednesday night, with the first episode of Voyager).

"The mob is fickle..." - from Gladiator

Indeed it is. You must be flexible to give the masses what they want. Your hard-core fanbase is important, but making your product "mainstream" is where the big bucks are.

"Malcolm, go to Tactical Alert; raise shields and polarize the hull. Arm photon torpedoes and fire on my mark...",  



CIV out.