Topic: why can't we have both? (Read 5902 times)

kitten · « **on:** January 23, 2003, 11:20:42 pm »

been lurking about the forums lately, seeing all the discussions about EAW vs TNG, GAW vs SFC3, etc, etc...

i actually love both games. i realize that 'multiera' is probably too difficult, but why not an expansion for both OP and SFC3, packaged together?

in the EAW/OP expansion, we could get invisible cloak, a toned down tac warp (really for disengagement by acceleration purposes), improved graphics, officers, refits, and a D3.

in the SFC3 expansion, we could get two more races (wonder who they would be), two (or so) more hull types for each race, more weapon variety, mission variety, and eras.

maybe then the next VOLUME could house an overhaul of D3, more to the liking of the strategic people, with a multiera overhaul, adding our favorite extra-galactic invaders.

meow

Cleaven · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2003, 11:35:54 pm »

'Tis for want of money Jim lad. <rubs first two fingers and thumb together>

Where's a millionare when you need one. You know, somebody who'll do the job without thinking about putting food on the table and keeping a roof in place. Of course what we really need is tobacco research money.

Arcilte · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2003, 11:53:02 pm »

Of course the idea is good but... Not gonna happen. Sorry

Cleaven · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2003, 01:10:43 am »

Which idea? Tobacco money or the overhaul?

Aenigma · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2003, 06:00:48 am »

Quote:

in the SFC3 expansion, we could get two more races (wonder who they would be), two (or so) more hull types for each race

Yeah i wonder, i think they will be Mizar and Nausicaan

or maybe the Sheliak

Just joking.
I would really love to see the Cardassians, the Dominion and the Breen (and maybe those pathetic Ferengi) in the game though, because then i have at least a bit more to shoot than just feds

And some races could use some extra hulls, the Romulans could use a CA or DN between the Raptor and the Warbird. The Federation could be given the Steamrunner (not that they really need more hulls, but it would be nice), and the Klingons could use a third CA (like the SuQ'Jagh).

Aenigma,
In The Service of The Empire

Whiplash · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2003, 06:36:16 am »

It would take extra time and programming to do each game expansion, so they might as well be two products. They'll make more money selling them that way anyhow. They can sell us a $50 expansion or two $30 expansions over time.

Piecemeal products are the ticket, possibly.

If they had any "light effort" but peripheral material that wouldn't go into an expansion, they could package that up as a series of $5-$10 downloads and give them to us once every month or two. Heck, even if they were meant to go into the expansion, it might even work to sell it in pieces this way online as a "preview" and then bundle it all together later as a store box release. A few of us diehards would pay for it, download it, give it a workout, and give them a chance to get the bugs out of some of it before they released it as a full product. And if it changed by the time of the main product, well, hey, we that would download are pretty used to patches anyway.

W.

kitten · « **Reply #7 on:** January 24, 2003, 07:14:46 am »

i was thinking along the lines of: "if they package both together, both camps will have to buy it".

in other words; two smalish expansions packaged together, will draw the players of SFB-based SFC, who wouldn't otherwise buy an expansion for SFC. ditto to the reverse, but to a lesser extent.

honestly, i think this series has at best one more title to it. with that, i'd like to see little enhancements for both.

Tulmahk · « **Reply #8 on:** January 24, 2003, 07:35:54 am »

It's an OK idea, the only problem is that most people who bought SFC2 didn't buy OP. If you must package an expansion for the old games along with the new, SFC2 makes a lot more sense then a product few bothered with.

It would hurt sales, do doubt. OP is still awaiting its patch (after all this time)...

kitten · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2003, 11:20:42 pm »

been lurking about the forums lately, seeing all the discussions about EAW vs TNG, GAW vs SFC3, etc, etc...

i actually love both games. i realize that 'multiera' is probably too difficult, but why not an expansion for both OP and SFC3, packaged together?

in the EAW/OP expansion, we could get invisible cloak, a toned down tac warp (really for disengagement by acceleration purposes), improved graphics, officers, refits, and a D3.

in the SFC3 expansion, we could get two more races (wonder who they would be), two (or so) more hull types for each race, more weapon variety, mission variety, and eras.

maybe then the next VOLUME could house an overhaul of D3, more to the liking of the strategic people, with a multiera overhaul, adding our favorite extra-galactic invaders.

meow

Cleaven · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2003, 11:35:54 pm »

'Tis for want of money Jim lad. <rubs first two fingers and thumb together>

Where's a millionare when you need one. You know, somebody who'll do the job without thinking about putting food on the table and keeping a roof in place. Of course what we really need is tobacco research money.

Arcilte · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2003, 11:53:02 pm »

Of course the idea is good but... Not gonna happen. Sorry

Cleaven · « **Reply #14 on:** January 24, 2003, 01:10:43 am »

Which idea? Tobacco money or the overhaul?

Whiplash · « **Reply #16 on:** January 24, 2003, 06:36:16 am »

It would take extra time and programming to do each game expansion, so they might as well be two products. They'll make more money selling them that way anyhow. They can sell us a $50 expansion or two $30 expansions over time.

Piecemeal products are the ticket, possibly.

If they had any "light effort" but peripheral material that wouldn't go into an expansion, they could package that up as a series of $5-$10 downloads and give them to us once every month or two. Heck, even if they were meant to go into the expansion, it might even work to sell it in pieces this way online as a "preview" and then bundle it all together later as a store box release. A few of us diehards would pay for it, download it, give it a workout, and give them a chance to get the bugs out of some of it before they released it as a full product. And if it changed by the time of the main product, well, hey, we that would download are pretty used to patches anyway.

W.

kitten · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2003, 07:14:46 am »

i was thinking along the lines of: "if they package both together, both camps will have to buy it".

in other words; two smalish expansions packaged together, will draw the players of SFB-based SFC, who wouldn't otherwise buy an expansion for SFC. ditto to the reverse, but to a lesser extent.

honestly, i think this series has at best one more title to it. with that, i'd like to see little enhancements for both.

Tulmahk · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2003, 07:35:54 am »

It's an OK idea, the only problem is that most people who bought SFC2 didn't buy OP. If you must package an expansion for the old games along with the new, SFC2 makes a lot more sense then a product few bothered with.

It would hurt sales, do doubt. OP is still awaiting its patch (after all this time)...

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