Topic: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!  (Read 2557 times)

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Ducttapewonder

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U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: March 23, 2003, 03:53:51 am »
Been working on this one for quite a while now. Got this far and hit a roadblock, so I sent her over to Hig Hurtenflurst to work his hullplating magic on her. Will be a joint effort between me and him. I'll post about a release date when I hear back from him.

 

 

 

   

Chrystoff

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2003, 09:55:27 am »
Beautiful job so far, man. But that's no suprise!
 

KaBoom1701

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2003, 11:19:09 am »
Well done. Looking forward to the d/l.

CptSavage

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2003, 11:19:36 am »
DAMN B! You're like the AAMCO of the Alpha quadrent.  

Lt. Cmdr Worf

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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2003, 06:20:44 pm »
I think you mean MAACO Cpt. Savage

Pataflafla

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2003, 06:04:45 pm »
Damn, those P81 textures look good on that ship!
Good idea. We've needed a nice looking Constellation to match so many other high quality models out there.

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Terradyhne

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2003, 06:34:55 am »
looking great but the mesh is wrong the Constellation has only one photon torpedo tupe, at the end of the top and bottom pylon between the pylons that connect the warpnacelles

Marauth

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2003, 04:16:48 pm »
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/worldtour/valkyrie.jpg

I know there's a lot of contrast but in this pic you can see it does infact have the same torp launcher as the connie - with 2 launchers - I'll look for a better pic.

DarkMatrix

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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2003, 09:27:05 pm »
looking great dtw let me know when she is ready please

DM

 

Ducttapewonder

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2003, 12:46:14 am »
Quote:

looking great dtw let me know when she is ready please

DM

 




Just because you said that, I will do everything in my power to make sure you are the last person to know about it.  

Thanx DM. Good to hear from you.  

I'll have some more WIP pics as soon as I get motivated to make some screenies.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2003, 12:47:13 am by Ducttapewonder »

Terradyhne

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2003, 04:50:17 am »
ok this is what i know as reference for this ship

 

and as you could see this has not that dual torplaunchers  

Rogue NineCH

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2003, 09:09:19 am »
I don't think it really matters one way or the other whether the Constellation had two torpedo tubes or not.  Remember that this was a TMP holdover in the TNG episode it was featured in.  It would have been refitted several times since it was first produced and would have had torp tubes back then.  Just like there were phaser banks on all TMP ships whereas TNG ships have the phaser strips allowing better field of fire.

sandman69247

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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2003, 10:12:52 am »
Got this from Daystrom Institute Technical Library
 
Canon Facts Backstage Info  Speculation

Type Cruiser (obsolete)
Unit Run NCC 1974 USS Constellation
NCC 3890 USS Gettysburg
(NCC 2593 USS Hathaway) (NCC 3069 USS Magellan)
(NCC 2893 USS Stargazer)
NCC 9754 USS Victory
plus 3 others built. 5 remain in service.
Commissioned 2283 - 2295
Dimensions Length : 231 m
Beam : 135 m
Height : 65 m
Decks : 11 excluding nacelles
Mass 250,000 tons
Crew 520
Armament 16 x Type VIII phaser banks, 7,500 TeraWatts total output
4 x 2nd class photon torpedo tubes + 200 torpedoes
Defence Systems Shield system, 418,500 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium single hull.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
(TNG Scale) Normal Cruise : Warp Factor 6  
Maximum Cruise : Warp Factor 8  
Maximum Rated : Warp Factor 8.6 for twelve hours
Strength Indices
(Galaxy class = 1,000) Beam Firepower : 150
Torpedo Firepower : 250
Weapon Range and Accuracy : 160
Shield Strength : 155
Hull Armour : 10
Speed : 680
Combat Manoeuvrability : 4,000
Overall Strength Index 220
Diplomatic Capability Grade 5
Expected Hull Life 80 years
Refit Cycle Minor : 18 months  
Standard : 7 years  
Major : No major refits envisaged for this class

Notes : The Constellation class was fielded during the 2280's as a modern counterpart to the Constitution class then in service. Like the Constitutions, the Constellation requirement issued in 2272 called for a vessel capable of long duration exploratory, scientific and diplomatic missions. The new ship was to be able to perform this role over the longer ranges called for now that the Federation had acquired new members beyond its previous borders. In addition, the Constellations combat capability was to put it ahead of any current or projected vessel in the Romulan and Klingon Empires.

The Constellations configuration marked a substantial change in Starfleet design practice of the time.  During this era Starfleet had experienced significant problems generating and controlling the large scale structural integrity fields required for heavy cruiser class ships. The solution adopted was to build smaller vessels within one single hull unit, while larger vessels required two hull units fitted with independent SIF's; the Constitution class is a classic example of this philosophy.
With the Constellation it was thought that SIF technology had advanced to the point where a Heavy Cruiser class could be fielded within a single hull. This would allow much duplication to be avoided, freeing up space for extra equipment and improving the efficiency of the design. In addition to their unusual hulls, the Constellations employed four warp nacelles instead of the usual two - the first Federation starship ever to try this variation. It was thought that this would give the Constellation class a significant increase in speed and manoeuvrability across the warp flight envelope and improve the fuel efficiency at medium cruise speeds by some 15%.

In retrospect it can be seen that the Constellation designers attempted to accomplish too much in one step, a problem not helped by an unusually rushed design process which virtually guaranteed that faults would be experienced in service. Severe problems were encountered with the development of the new warp core and several vessels experienced a variety of failures with this system - the most notable being the USS Algeron which had to eject its warp core on three separate occasions because of emergencies.

After a great deal of time and effort working on this problem it was decided that the warp cores of the Constellation class were simply not up to the job of producing the power required. Starfleet was denied the resources required to produce a new design and refit the fleet, so instead a "stopgap" option was chosen - the power output of these ships was restricted by limiter software in the engineering systems.

Unfortunately while it solved the near constant emergencies, this measure also robbed the Constellation class of some of their most important advances. They were now seriously under powered for their size, a factor which adversely affected almost every aspect of their operation. Despite this Starfleet was committed to the production of these ships on a large scale. This went ahead as scheduled, and the Constellation class became the mainstay of the fleet.

Over the years many attempts were made to rectify the problems with the Constellation class, and eventually some success was achieved. Between 2300 and 2310 six units received a new uprated warp core which brought them close to their original designed power output. Other units of the fleet received new control software which allowed their power to be safely boosted by some 15% on average. However, by this time the class was some twenty years old and had fallen well behind the leading edge of technology. It was decided that an extensive refit of the Constellations would not be an efficient use of resources, and so these ships were forced to soldier on with their problems. With the advent of newer designs in the 2330's some of these vessels were retired altogether, while others were assigned border patrol duties.

The Constellations have had a generally undistinguished career, with one notable exception being the USS Stargazer. The first vessel commanded by Captain Jean Luc Picard, the Stargazer was the first vessel in Starfleet to perform the "Picard Manoeuvre" which it used to destroy an attacking craft now known to be a Ferengi Marauder. The Stargazer was heavily damaged in the engagement and was abandoned and believed destroyed. In 2364 the ship was recovered and now resides in the Fleet Museum. A few Constellation class vessels remain in service; as is often the case with past-their-prime designs the ships are now used for general support duties.

As you can see, the Constellation class has 2 dual torpedo launchers.

 

Marauth

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2003, 12:02:11 pm »
Sandman - if you read the key at the top - which you included in that post all of the white text is the guy's own speculation - so the Constellation wasn't the first 4 nacelled Fed ship, it wasn't a failiure and the result of a rushed design and most importantly the armament info is all conjectural, but as the studio model CLEARLY has 2 connie style torpedo launchers - ergo 4 launchers. Oh and Terradyhne - that pic is from one of the many apochryphal tech manuals so the drawings are not gonna be completely canon - especially considering the sources these guys had when they were making the drawings - I mean even the official DS9TM drawings are complete bollaks once you see the studio model.

Ducttapewonder

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2003, 01:53:33 am »
Anyways, all "canon; bickering aside . Here are some more WIP pics. Hig added his killer hull plating to the top of the pylons, and the sensor domes on the bottom of the saucer. He also added Willard Deckers illuminations, tweaked the shuttle bay a little and added some of his own "glow" illusions to the saucer to simulate reflection from the nacelles. All I have left to do is some minor allignments and adjustments and she'll be ready.

BTW. I care less how many torp bays it has. I say it looks good with the top and bottom config. Having none dosent make sence to me. Why would a ship this big have no photons?

 

 

     

dderidex

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Re: U.S.S. CONSTELLATION RETEX W.I.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2003, 03:43:06 pm »
All I gotta say is: WOW!

One request - when you release it, could you do one scaled down to CL-size?  I spose I probably could for myself, anyway.

I use the Connie as an NCA - it tends to look a little like it, anyway - and this one looks awesome!