Topic: Sigh.. Ive had enough

[Blitzkrieg]

Well that just about did it for me, feeling a bit stressed this morning I figured I should take to blowing up some some nice ships in SFC3, this will make me happy for sure.

Well there I am, I struggled to get into a Norway, loading myself out with what I thought was a clever 2 foward IXF, pulse phaser and 1 Quantum. This ment I didnt have to upgrade the warp core and could have a nice zippy manouvarable ship as was I am sure, intended.

Playing on GFL 4 corners, I set about finding some AI to take on, finding a wingman instead it isnt long (5 mins or so ffs) before I find someone of comparable size to fight again, Borg Diamon isnt that much of a push over. Anyway the damn AI leaves my fleet for no reason and will not return, what the fecking hell is up with that?

Anyway I leave the fecking moron behind and go off in search of some more competition, finding a K'tinga, mmm nice, gona be a good fight thats for sure. Anyway I get into the match, to my delight he has 2 foward level 3 dizzies and 2 foward Ion cannons, alls I have to do is stay out of his forward arcs and Im ok.

About a minute later he has me in a level 3 tractor, somehow managed to get too close to him as my ship was slower than his, I was now in his forward arcs and with 2 vollys my ship was a goner. This sucks just about here, my hull was somthing like 75% in the green and one volly of Ion cannons tears me apart and Im dead.

Well feck this I think what kind of lame as excuse for a game is this, I mean it was hard enough getting here in the first place, why has it gota be so harsh? Rather annoyed I get back ONLY TO FIND 5000+ DISREPUTE. That was it for me, back in a FF, officors hadnt advanced at all despite my best efforts, according to the server rules its against the rules to start a new account so you guys can kma.

I really do have better things to do than run scan missions all day, this game used to be far more fun before the patch even though it wasnt as hard you had more PvP and less messing around. I dont want to have to fight for 6 hours straight to get an even remotly competitive ship, the game has too many hang ups to make the effort worth it anymore so Im gona go.

So long to you all, thought I had found myself a nice forum where I could talk about a game I really liked, but that game just isnt what i thought it was. I would detail everything I find wrong with it, but needless to say, its taken a bit too seriously with these server set ups, it no longer rewards it punishes the none great players. Sorry I dont measure up but Ill take my time elsewhere, an important thing I think developers/server admin should remeber for the future is, the best games ever were always easy to get into. Taldren tried to do that with SFC3 but experts seem to take offence at that.

Anyway, later all have a good one!

[Soreyes]

Come on over to the D2
We all get blown up and it's fun

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Blitzkrieg, your post echoes very much my experiences not only with this particular server, but with the game itself.  Granted, I have not visited the other popular servers out there (and probably should, I suppose) - but I find that, in general, many servers cater to those that spend 8 hours a day flying it.  A lack of missions, combined with the alarming increase in AI strength and the new hull class requirments to fleeting, make it very difficult to ever get out of a frigate.  

Why have scan missions that offer two pirates? (twice on the above mentioned server this happened... 30 minute battles for a loss of prestige)  Why allow an AI enemy to travel up to three hexes to join a battle you started with that one found AI that matches up with you?  Why must one fly around for a half an hour even looking for equally classed enemies?
If you cater to the hardcore players alone, those that complain that everything is too easy, you will one day find your server losing a large portion of new players.  

I suppose my whole point is that in any game, one must feel that they are advancing - or that there is a hope for it.  Without it, we might as well play solitare without the aces.  

I am sorry to see you go, Blitzkrieg.  I felt we shared alot of the same opinions on this game.  Good luck in everything!

 

[Suiric]

Quote:
 Why allow an AI enemy to travel up to three hexes to join a battle you started with that one found AI that matches up with you?  Why must one fly around for a half an hour even looking for equally classed enemies?  

I have had this happen to over and over again in the last few weeks... I cannot tell  how many times I ahve had to run ( or get killed) when challenging a CA in my lowly FF or (Gasp) I made it to DD without this happening. Only to find out that just as I have engaged the CA lurking behind him is a either DN or a BB. As soon as the ship appears on scanners I usually have only a few seconds till that first volley comes in..

Is this the same occurence you are speaking of???

I am still playing bu tyou have to admit it is frustrating.....    

[KOTH-Steel Claw]

Sounds like you want a server that gives instant gratification in the way of a big ship and experienced crew as opposed to a server that requires you to work your way up.

I have played at the GFL server (last night , in fact) and I enjoyed it. I am not putting in nutter hours and I started off in a Diamond. So far, I have managed to make some improvements and run some missions and fight agianst AI. Unfortunately, I didn't have time to check the players to see who might be in a comparable situation for some PvP.

Personally, I rather enjoy playing in small ships. Keeps things interesting.

[Suiric]

lol, got me there I really dont mind the smaller ships...I actually enjoy flying circles around other ships... I guess the scenario I am describing is sort of a reverse AI Distress call. When I am taking on an AI suddenly another appears.. I should learn to be  less reckless with my ship and crew I suppose...but I am still happy with the game            

[Praxis]

Get the TNG Mega Mod and get on my server.  The latest update includes 5 new missions- they each get twice as much prestige.  You can get loads of prestige on some of the missions that can give you 1200 pp (though they are a bit tougher than Scan, they're still just optional missions).  You can build up to a big ship quick...or you can heavily upgrade a small ship.  USS Defiant RULES!

[Suiric]

   lol Praxis I promise that I will, let me attempt to fix my machine tonight and maybe this weekend I just might be able to...I like the mod and have enjoyed it so far would like to try it out 'out there'  

[KOTH-Steel Claw]

Praxis,

Personal curiosity, what difficulty are you using for AI and what crew experience level?

[Torque]

Keep in mind that all servers, GFL included are fresh off the patch and all admins are tweaking settings.  While I am biased the GFL admin and CO's usually make an excellent game with excellent setups.  Check out their forum and you will note that the dialogue for tweeking the next one is already going about.  Top to bottom still the best players there imo.

-Torque
 

[Demandred]

The GFL leadership tries to make the game fun for as many people as possible. While I don't play SFC3, I do know that the SFC3 COs and the Council discusses most points of the game in detail. As for the massive disrepute thing, last thing I heard it was hardcoded into the server kit and so couldn't be changed.

[Blitzkrieg]

Well that just about did it for me, feeling a bit stressed this morning I figured I should take to blowing up some some nice ships in SFC3, this will make me happy for sure.

Well there I am, I struggled to get into a Norway, loading myself out with what I thought was a clever 2 foward IXF, pulse phaser and 1 Quantum. This ment I didnt have to upgrade the warp core and could have a nice zippy manouvarable ship as was I am sure, intended.

Playing on GFL 4 corners, I set about finding some AI to take on, finding a wingman instead it isnt long (5 mins or so ffs) before I find someone of comparable size to fight again, Borg Diamon isnt that much of a push over. Anyway the damn AI leaves my fleet for no reason and will not return, what the fecking hell is up with that?

Anyway I leave the fecking moron behind and go off in search of some more competition, finding a K'tinga, mmm nice, gona be a good fight thats for sure. Anyway I get into the match, to my delight he has 2 foward level 3 dizzies and 2 foward Ion cannons, alls I have to do is stay out of his forward arcs and Im ok.

About a minute later he has me in a level 3 tractor, somehow managed to get too close to him as my ship was slower than his, I was now in his forward arcs and with 2 vollys my ship was a goner. This sucks just about here, my hull was somthing like 75% in the green and one volly of Ion cannons tears me apart and Im dead.

Well feck this I think what kind of lame as excuse for a game is this, I mean it was hard enough getting here in the first place, why has it gota be so harsh? Rather annoyed I get back ONLY TO FIND 5000+ DISREPUTE. That was it for me, back in a FF, officors hadnt advanced at all despite my best efforts, according to the server rules its against the rules to start a new account so you guys can kma.

I really do have better things to do than run scan missions all day, this game used to be far more fun before the patch even though it wasnt as hard you had more PvP and less messing around. I dont want to have to fight for 6 hours straight to get an even remotly competitive ship, the game has too many hang ups to make the effort worth it anymore so Im gona go.

So long to you all, thought I had found myself a nice forum where I could talk about a game I really liked, but that game just isnt what i thought it was. I would detail everything I find wrong with it, but needless to say, its taken a bit too seriously with these server set ups, it no longer rewards it punishes the none great players. Sorry I dont measure up but Ill take my time elsewhere, an important thing I think developers/server admin should remeber for the future is, the best games ever were always easy to get into. Taldren tried to do that with SFC3 but experts seem to take offence at that.

Anyway, later all have a good one!

[Soreyes]

Come on over to the D2
We all get blown up and it's fun

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Blitzkrieg, your post echoes very much my experiences not only with this particular server, but with the game itself.  Granted, I have not visited the other popular servers out there (and probably should, I suppose) - but I find that, in general, many servers cater to those that spend 8 hours a day flying it.  A lack of missions, combined with the alarming increase in AI strength and the new hull class requirments to fleeting, make it very difficult to ever get out of a frigate.  

Why have scan missions that offer two pirates? (twice on the above mentioned server this happened... 30 minute battles for a loss of prestige)  Why allow an AI enemy to travel up to three hexes to join a battle you started with that one found AI that matches up with you?  Why must one fly around for a half an hour even looking for equally classed enemies?
If you cater to the hardcore players alone, those that complain that everything is too easy, you will one day find your server losing a large portion of new players.  

I suppose my whole point is that in any game, one must feel that they are advancing - or that there is a hope for it.  Without it, we might as well play solitare without the aces.  

I am sorry to see you go, Blitzkrieg.  I felt we shared alot of the same opinions on this game.  Good luck in everything!

 

[Suiric]

Quote:
 Why allow an AI enemy to travel up to three hexes to join a battle you started with that one found AI that matches up with you?  Why must one fly around for a half an hour even looking for equally classed enemies?  

I have had this happen to over and over again in the last few weeks... I cannot tell  how many times I ahve had to run ( or get killed) when challenging a CA in my lowly FF or (Gasp) I made it to DD without this happening. Only to find out that just as I have engaged the CA lurking behind him is a either DN or a BB. As soon as the ship appears on scanners I usually have only a few seconds till that first volley comes in..

Is this the same occurence you are speaking of???

I am still playing bu tyou have to admit it is frustrating.....    

[KOTH-Steel Claw]

Sounds like you want a server that gives instant gratification in the way of a big ship and experienced crew as opposed to a server that requires you to work your way up.

I have played at the GFL server (last night , in fact) and I enjoyed it. I am not putting in nutter hours and I started off in a Diamond. So far, I have managed to make some improvements and run some missions and fight agianst AI. Unfortunately, I didn't have time to check the players to see who might be in a comparable situation for some PvP.

Personally, I rather enjoy playing in small ships. Keeps things interesting.

[Suiric]

lol, got me there I really dont mind the smaller ships...I actually enjoy flying circles around other ships... I guess the scenario I am describing is sort of a reverse AI Distress call. When I am taking on an AI suddenly another appears.. I should learn to be  less reckless with my ship and crew I suppose...but I am still happy with the game            

[Praxis]

Get the TNG Mega Mod and get on my server.  The latest update includes 5 new missions- they each get twice as much prestige.  You can get loads of prestige on some of the missions that can give you 1200 pp (though they are a bit tougher than Scan, they're still just optional missions).  You can build up to a big ship quick...or you can heavily upgrade a small ship.  USS Defiant RULES!

[Suiric]

   lol Praxis I promise that I will, let me attempt to fix my machine tonight and maybe this weekend I just might be able to...I like the mod and have enjoyed it so far would like to try it out 'out there'  

[KOTH-Steel Claw]

Praxis,

Personal curiosity, what difficulty are you using for AI and what crew experience level?

[Torque]

Keep in mind that all servers, GFL included are fresh off the patch and all admins are tweaking settings.  While I am biased the GFL admin and CO's usually make an excellent game with excellent setups.  Check out their forum and you will note that the dialogue for tweeking the next one is already going about.  Top to bottom still the best players there imo.

-Torque
 

[Demandred]

The GFL leadership tries to make the game fun for as many people as possible. While I don't play SFC3, I do know that the SFC3 COs and the Council discusses most points of the game in detail. As for the massive disrepute thing, last thing I heard it was hardcoded into the server kit and so couldn't be changed.