Topic: OT - But still Star Trek related

[Arcilte]

I was on the TV Guide website to look up when Enterprise was going to have a new episode when I saw this article. Looked interesteing so I read it. Thought maybe some of you might want to take a look.

http://www.tvguide.com/features/startrek/submissions.asp

Here is one quote from the article that I thought was very interesting....

"The mere fact that viewers are being asked for suggestions to help fix trek suggests that perhaps its time for the baton to be passed to a new generation of producers. It is all too apparent to the fans that the current producers have lost focus and simply don't care and placed profits before quality."  

[ChamadaIV]

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I was on the TV Guide website to look up when Enterprise was going to have a new episode when I saw this article. Looked interesteing so I read it. Thought maybe some of you might want to take a look.

http://www.tvguide.com/features/startrek/submissions.asp

Here is one quote from the article that I thought was very interesting....

"The mere fact that viewers are being asked for suggestions to help fix trek suggests that perhaps its time for the baton to be passed to a new generation of producers. It is all too apparent to the fans that the current producers have lost focus and simply don't care and placed profits before quality."  

William Shatner said in a recent article that everything going on in Trek recently is "old hat." I couldn't agree more. I like the very first viewer opinion on that page...

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Star Trek at its best has always been something that teaches people. Going through high school with the Next Generation playing every week taught me about real human issues, science, history, philosophy; the works. Recent Trek has shied away from covering issues of morality and historical importance, in favor of explosions and boobs. Sex does sell, but it cheapens the whole deal. Characters who could be interesting and deep, like Seven of Nine and T'Pol, are relegated to skin-tight outfits and decontamination scenes. Though the characters do develop, it's more of an afterthought. You never get past the shameless outfits and outrageously large breasts. As far as "the issues" go, feeble attempts have been made to cover modern issues, but episodes like the recent "Stigma" honestly feel like a "token tip of the hat" to AIDS, and not an interesting exploration of the issue. An episode that makes you think about it after a few days and ponder "what was the lesson that episode was trying to teach?" is classic Trek. It seems they're trying to get back to how Star Trek used to be, but naming a ship "Enterprise" isn't the only way to do it. You've gotta work to regain our respect and your own credibility. ? Rich Matheson

A little too much emphasis on the "boobs" issue, but he makes some good points. What happened to episodes like "Cause and Effect" (my favorite TNG episode) where the Enterprise was stuck in the time loop, constantly being destroyed until a solution could be found to prevent the disaster (it was also an episode where Kelsey Grammer from "Frasier" guest starred)? Or physcological episodes like the two parter "The Chain of Command" (my second fave) guest starring the venerable David Warner as Gul Madred, involving the capture, torture, and humiliation of a dignified starship captain (Picard). As you watch that one, you see a man's mental fortitude get put to the test under extreme conditions, nearly breaking him. There's just so much lack of thought in Trek these days. If only we could drive back in those old creative energies from the good ol' days of TOS and TNG...  

[Arcilte]

I was on the TV Guide website to look up when Enterprise was going to have a new episode when I saw this article. Looked interesteing so I read it. Thought maybe some of you might want to take a look.

http://www.tvguide.com/features/startrek/submissions.asp

Here is one quote from the article that I thought was very interesting....

"The mere fact that viewers are being asked for suggestions to help fix trek suggests that perhaps its time for the baton to be passed to a new generation of producers. It is all too apparent to the fans that the current producers have lost focus and simply don't care and placed profits before quality."  

[ChamadaIV]

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I was on the TV Guide website to look up when Enterprise was going to have a new episode when I saw this article. Looked interesteing so I read it. Thought maybe some of you might want to take a look.

http://www.tvguide.com/features/startrek/submissions.asp

Here is one quote from the article that I thought was very interesting....

"The mere fact that viewers are being asked for suggestions to help fix trek suggests that perhaps its time for the baton to be passed to a new generation of producers. It is all too apparent to the fans that the current producers have lost focus and simply don't care and placed profits before quality."  

William Shatner said in a recent article that everything going on in Trek recently is "old hat." I couldn't agree more. I like the very first viewer opinion on that page...

Quote:

Star Trek at its best has always been something that teaches people. Going through high school with the Next Generation playing every week taught me about real human issues, science, history, philosophy; the works. Recent Trek has shied away from covering issues of morality and historical importance, in favor of explosions and boobs. Sex does sell, but it cheapens the whole deal. Characters who could be interesting and deep, like Seven of Nine and T'Pol, are relegated to skin-tight outfits and decontamination scenes. Though the characters do develop, it's more of an afterthought. You never get past the shameless outfits and outrageously large breasts. As far as "the issues" go, feeble attempts have been made to cover modern issues, but episodes like the recent "Stigma" honestly feel like a "token tip of the hat" to AIDS, and not an interesting exploration of the issue. An episode that makes you think about it after a few days and ponder "what was the lesson that episode was trying to teach?" is classic Trek. It seems they're trying to get back to how Star Trek used to be, but naming a ship "Enterprise" isn't the only way to do it. You've gotta work to regain our respect and your own credibility. ? Rich Matheson

A little too much emphasis on the "boobs" issue, but he makes some good points. What happened to episodes like "Cause and Effect" (my favorite TNG episode) where the Enterprise was stuck in the time loop, constantly being destroyed until a solution could be found to prevent the disaster (it was also an episode where Kelsey Grammer from "Frasier" guest starred)? Or physcological episodes like the two parter "The Chain of Command" (my second fave) guest starring the venerable David Warner as Gul Madred, involving the capture, torture, and humiliation of a dignified starship captain (Picard). As you watch that one, you see a man's mental fortitude get put to the test under extreme conditions, nearly breaking him. There's just so much lack of thought in Trek these days. If only we could drive back in those old creative energies from the good ol' days of TOS and TNG...