Topic: DOE Flame thread #2: Easy Escorts Everywhere for Everyone

[Kroma_BaSyl]

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The Gorn CV is based on the CL and retains all of the armament which means with an F-refit it could be dangerous.
The HDV is based on the HDD and like the HDP losses the S-Torp so it's not a big threat.
The Roms on the other hand use the same Sparrowhawk/Skyhawk style carriers not losing much in the way of weapons.
 The Fed carriers should do fine.  The 2 you mentioned seem pretty decent in my trials of them.
 

If he is going straight SFB, which I suspect, then the G-CV is a CL with 2xPlas-S plus 2xPlas-Fs replaced with 2xPlas-Ds, 4xPh1 and 2xPh3. HDV is just HDP with fighters instead of PFs.

The Roms would seem to have the adv in carrier mothership firepower. Slightly better than Feds and way better than the Gorn, but with the Gorn and Feds allied shouldn't be a big problem. Although the G-CVS would have been nice as it has a CA hull and 3 more Ph1s.

[jimmi7769]

Hey Burt, you using any of the carriers from J2??

[DH123]

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The Gorn CV is based on the CL and retains all of the armament which means with an F-refit it could be dangerous.
The HDV is based on the HDD and like the HDP losses the S-Torp so it's not a big threat.
The Roms on the other hand use the same Sparrowhawk/Skyhawk style carriers not losing much in the way of weapons.
 The Fed carriers should do fine.  The 2 you mentioned seem pretty decent in my trials of them.
 

If he is going straight SFB, which I suspect, then the G-CV is a CL with 2xPlas-S plus 2xPlas-Fs replaced with 2xPlas-Ds, 4xPh1 and 2xPh3. HDV is just HDP with fighters instead of PFs.

The Roms would seem to have the adv in carrier mothership firepower. Slightly better than Feds and way better than the Gorn, but with the Gorn and Feds allied shouldn't be a big problem. Although the G-CVS would have been nice as it has a CA hull and 3 more Ph1s.  

Which means every player will be flying a fricking carrier.  

The Federation CVS+ has 34 power.  Decent weaponry, but that sad power supply is why I never fly it even over a CC+.  Personal prefernece I guess.  But I guess it's an ubber-ship because Dizzy killed S'cipio's dread with one  

BTW . . .  I'm flying Romulan on this server. Muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  

[Kroma_BaSyl]

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Which means every player will be flying a fricking carrier.

Yes, but only one ;-)

I will probably give the G-CV and those fighters a spin, but I suspect I will be spending most of my time in a G-BF. The G-BF should be in it's sweet spot all of this server given the era.

[Bob Graham]

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The Gorn CV is based on the CL and retains all of the armament which means with an F-refit it could be dangerous.
The HDV is based on the HDD and like the HDP losses the S-Torp so it's not a big threat.
The Roms on the other hand use the same Sparrowhawk/Skyhawk style carriers not losing much in the way of weapons.
 The Fed carriers should do fine.  The 2 you mentioned seem pretty decent in my trials of them.
 

If he is going straight SFB, which I suspect, then the G-CV is a CL with 2xPlas-S plus 2xPlas-Fs replaced with 2xPlas-Ds, 4xPh1 and 2xPh3. HDV is just HDP with fighters instead of PFs.

The Roms would seem to have the adv in carrier mothership firepower. Slightly better than Feds and way better than the Gorn, but with the Gorn and Feds allied shouldn't be a big problem. Although the G-CVS would have been nice as it has a CA hull and 3 more Ph1s.  

Which means every player will be flying a fricking carrier.  

The Federation CVS+ has 34 power.  Decent weaponry, but that sad power supply is why I never fly it even over a CC+.  Personal prefernece I guess.  But I guess it's an ubber-ship because Dizzy killed S'cipio's dread with one  

BTW . . .  I'm flying Romulan on this server. Muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  

The CVS+ is a kick ass ship, I beat some Romulan in a K9 with it and an AI G-DD durning CW6 I belive.

[DH123]

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I will probably give the G-CV and those fighters a spin, but I suspect I will be spending most of my time in a G-BF. The G-BF should be in it's sweet spot all of this server given the era.  

The FHK is looking good to me.  Now if only Herbert would lower the Cloak cost to 12 . . . .  

[Laflin]

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I will probably give the G-CV and those fighters a spin, but I suspect I will be spending most of my time in a G-BF. The G-BF should be in it's sweet spot all of this server given the era.  

The FHK is looking good to me.  Now if only Herbert would lower the Cloak cost to 12 . . . .  

I have nothing to do with cloak costs...  

[Kroma_BaSyl]

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I will probably give the G-CV and those fighters a spin, but I suspect I will be spending most of my time in a G-BF. The G-BF should be in it's sweet spot all of this server given the era.  

The FHK is looking good to me.  Now if only Herbert would lower the Cloak cost to 12 . . . .  

I have nothing to do with cloak costs...  

hehehe....He means Her Butt.

As for lowering cloak cost, I'm all for it, maybe it would encourage more Roms to cloak....muhahahahahahahaha!

[KOTH-Steel Claw]

 

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 hehehe....He means Her Butt.

As for lowering cloak cost, I'm all for it, maybe it would encourage more Roms to cloak....muhahahahahahahaha!
 

Romulan cloaking is a good thing. I encourage all of them to use it.  

[DH123]

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 hehehe....He means Her Butt.

As for lowering cloak cost, I'm all for it, maybe it would encourage more Roms to cloak....muhahahahahahahaha!
 

Romulan cloaking is a good thing. I encourage all of them to use it.  

Drop Cloak costs by 1/3 and it would be very useful . . .  

[Damaged]

Bravo HB.

[Pharoah]

Just a quick note. From tests I've run previously, it seems the last patch for EAW made the Plas D nonfunctional as a fighter weapon. You can load it on a fighter, but it never fires.

I just double checked this to be sure.

Thus, no plas D fighters for the Gorn or Roms.  

[Kroma_BaSyl]

Ouch. To bad cause they do work on PFs and are quite effective against fighters. Of course the PFs refuse to use their other heavy weapons against fighters (i.e. Plas-F) and refuse to target mothership if fighters are present.

[Cleaven]

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Laflin, it's fighters for all races - no PFs, hence the AMD/drone rack change on fed escorts. Escorts are intended to DEFEND friendly ships, not ATTACK enemy ships which is why they are called cheesy :P  

Thanks for the clarification - and don't get me started on escort tactics.    

Will that be Lyran escorts, or the more popular Romulan escorts? Come to think of it, we'll all be thinking about tactics for these defensive only escorts.    

[Marcus Smythe]

As for the Fed CVS+... how that ship fares is really going to depend on how we implement fighter distribution.  F-18's arent anything to write home about. F-14Ds are evil, wrong, and morally bad.

Ill be flying Fed.  

[jimmi7769]

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As for the Fed CVS+... how that ship fares is really going to depend on how we implement fighter distribution.  F-18's arent anything to write home about. F-14Ds are evil, wrong, and morally bad.

Ill be flying Fed.  

There were some, the CVB's, that carried F-15's and IIRC they(it, Nimitz I think) were on the Romulan border.

[KBF-Dogmatix]

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Is it too late to make this a Vanilla server?   AOTK was the cheesiest server I have ever seen.  Let's not make future servers worse.  

Plenty of whine too. ;-)  

Some would say way too much whine...WAY too much.


 

[DH123]

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Is it too late to make this a Vanilla server?   AOTK was the cheesiest server I have ever seen.  Let's not make future servers worse.  

Plenty of whine too. ;-)  

Some would say way too much whine...WAY too much.


 

Who asked you?  

[JimCasca]

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Is it too late to make this a Vanilla server?   AOTK was the cheesiest server I have ever seen.  Let's not make future servers worse.  

Plenty of whine too. ;-)  

Come on Kroma, Like the Gorn BCH ain't tough enough!    

How many Gorn did you see in the BCHV, I flew it one time it's too slow any of the other tenders were better IMHO now IF you want to make a good heavy Gorn tender use the BF.  

[Kroma_BaSyl]

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Is it too late to make this a Vanilla server?   AOTK was the cheesiest server I have ever seen.  Let's not make future servers worse.  

Plenty of whine too. ;-)  

Come on Kroma, Like the Gorn BCH ain't tough enough!    

How many Gorn did you see in the BCHV, I flew it one time it's too slow any of the other tenders were better IMHO now IF you want to make a good heavy Gorn tender use the BF.  

Totally agree. The BCHV scare was totally blown out of proportion.