Topic: Martok and Borg on Enterprise!? WTF!!!!! (Very mild spoilers) (Read 13225 times)

Tus · « **Reply #40 on:** March 16, 2003, 02:09:10 pm »

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To address the first point, we have no idea to which "first contact" Picard may be talking about. Perhaps the "Broken Bow" incident was supressed in some way in the historical record. Second, well I dont think the Kiinks have been particularly friendly so far on Enterprise.

How many first contacts can you have with one race?????????

Well this might be a bit late, but here it goes. the way i see all enterprise has had for first contact with the klinkers is a physical one, meaning all they really know is who they are and what they look like. That still leaves much room for a diplomatic first contact, which as far as we know hasn't happened.

Just my 2 cents

Tus

Maxillius · « **Reply #41 on:** March 17, 2003, 11:43:24 am »

RIGHT

You want your reset button? Here it is...

The 22nd century Borg finally get here from the Delta quadrant, just after the Earth-Rommie war. Seeing the new Federation as slightly inferior, they begin diplomatic relations. 22nd century Borg are a bit nicer than 24th century Borg, however they still don't quite understand "NO". After a long battle where Enterprise chucks slow drone after slow drone at the Borg Spear (yes, S-P-E-A-R, kinda long and pointed, like a rocket) pursuing them, Skip devises a way to turn the warp engines into a temporal vortex by routing all power through the Suliban Cell ship. The resulting vortex destroys the Spear, but they cannot stop it. It rapidly expands, destroying Enterprise, the Federation, alpha quadrant, and the entire universe in that timeline. Other quantum realities go relatively unaffected, however, at the end of the episode we'll see a scene where Guinan has to leave 10-Forward on the Enterprise-D because of a splitting headache.

Khardis · « **Reply #42 on:** March 19, 2003, 06:05:49 am »

IF they need to break the timeline to tell a darn good story, GO AHEAD.

IF they need to break the timeline to tell a bad story, DON'T.

IMNSHO

The problem with ST is, it's huge and unwieldly. It's impossible to do anything without going against something, somewhere. When that is said and done, though, please do leave the core stuff alone, thanks.

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #43 on:** March 14, 2003, 10:59:58 am »

I'm psyched that an upcoming episode of Enterprise is featuring J.G. Hertzler playing a Klingon once again! For those of you who don't know him by name, he played Martok on DS9, one of the most colorful Klingon characters on any Trek series. He won't be playing Martok on Enterprise though, but a Klingon lawyer! The episode is called 'Judgment' and airs on 4/9/2003.

Also, it's confirmed that another upcoming episode of Enterprise features the Borg. The episode synopsis can be found here:

http://www.treknation.com/episodes/season2/regeneration.shtml

What the heck are the Trek writers thinking? Borg in Enterprise? This show's getting crazy. I hope it doesn't go the way of Farscape, and flush itself down the toilet with bad (really really bad) writing.

Lepton1 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 14, 2003, 11:41:04 am »

Well, I will state the obvious. The Borg were on Earth at the time of First Contact with the Vulcans as shown in the movie of the same name. So the fact that a few drones popup in North Pole is not a great stretch as I think the sphere was indeed destroyed in that movie, although it has been so long since I have seen it, I can't quite remember if that is true.

Subspace · « **Reply #45 on:** March 14, 2003, 11:44:22 am »

it was blown to hell while it sat their shooting at earth

Christoff · « **Reply #47 on:** March 14, 2003, 12:51:33 pm »

Watch the movie again

After they came through the time vortex their shields and sensors were offline.

Suiric · « **Reply #48 on:** March 14, 2003, 01:17:52 pm »

As thin as it might sound with both shields and sensors down.. the Borg could have beamed both places....enterprise obviously wouldn't be aware... "I like to think there are always possibilities"

StarTrekcaptain · « **Reply #49 on:** March 14, 2003, 01:51:54 pm »

This is why I HATE ENTERPRISE. Don't get me wrong, I think its a cool idea, going back to the beginning of the Federation and what have you, but the writers are taking no respect AT ALL of the existing trek timeline.

1: In TNG episode "First Contact" the Enterprise performs first contact with a new race. In this episode Picard state and I quote "we perform First COntact this way, because 100 years ago a disatrous first contact with the Klingons led to almost a century of war". SO WHAT THE HELL ARE THE KLINGONS DOING ON ENTERPRISE NOT SHOOTING AT EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2: Also in TNG I can't remeber the episode but its when Q sends them to the delta quadrant to face the borg for the first time. Now Starfleet has NO record of the borg before this episode, so how can the borg appear on earth and then two hundred years later Starfleet has no idea of their existence.

I could go on, but really I can't be arsed. Enterprise is a HUGE dissappointment and should be axed and Mr Bremer so called "exective producer" sacked and someone who actully cares about Star Trek and its continuing sucess put in his place.

TalonClaw · « **Reply #52 on:** March 14, 2003, 02:50:23 pm »

Ah well they could have either beamed down then or a section of the sphere could have crashed on earth.

Suiric · « **Reply #53 on:** March 14, 2003, 02:57:22 pm »

Like I said very thin...
Our cousins would find it 'highly illogical' though and tell you to 'learn to govern your emotions'

Draco · « **Reply #54 on:** March 14, 2003, 03:41:36 pm »

To play devils advocate, if Archers? Enterprise encounters the Borg they may simply not know who they are dealing with. That would explain why the Federation database didn?t have the word ?Borg? in it.

Nagoth · « **Reply #56 on:** March 14, 2003, 05:46:54 pm »

I was thinking maybe they are going to do the time thing again. Borg back in time or Enterprise in the future. But the Borg going back in time is not out of the question sence they did it at will in First Contact.

The Question is : How will they not know they are Borg so Picard will still be shocked when he meets them for the first time. Also I wonder how a ship that is far Below the Enterprise D is going to fair - When the Next Generation Flag Ship Gave such a good show of her backside against them.

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #57 on:** March 14, 2003, 06:19:24 pm »

I mean of the borg start saying, "we are the borg" then fair enough, its pants. If not then well, who would know what they are called? Maybe the information is classified after a time its all forgoten. Look the borg shouldnt be in there, but eh, its not a big deal. I think Enterprise isnt as good for other reasons.

FPF_TraceyG · « **Reply #58 on:** March 14, 2003, 07:26:01 pm »

Well, I just hope something really bad happens at the end of the series that nullifies the entire timeline that Enterprise is set in, thus invalidating all the erroneous script writing in the pursuit for bailing out their ailing ratings.

Maxillius · « **Reply #59 on:** March 14, 2003, 07:31:48 pm »

like the final episode of TNG, except they don't fix it in the second hour?

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