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Offline Corbomite

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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2015, 03:39:30 pm »
You may have hit on the major issue here, i.e. that SFC wants to install into Program Files by default and Program Files no longer exists.
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2015, 04:14:14 pm »
I don't know about Win10 yet, but my Win8.1 OP installed into the C: "Program Files (x86)" - I knew about the "my games" folder approach but decided to try it in "x86" first.  No messes and runs very stable. Bt all means I think people should install into a personal folder, I'm just curious as why that didn't matter on my box. Is there a possibility that MS changed something in 8.1 along the way from 8? I'm also curious, Win10 has a "Program Files (x86)" folder, right? Or has a lot changed?
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2015, 04:18:22 pm »
It has a program files(x86) too! But let me tell you. With my experience in these last months, its not a 100% safe approach. Even Microsoft software refuses to work when installed in those folders sometimes. They need administrator privilages to just use "c:\windows\temp" for example !! Its insane. I highly recommend installing it to a personal user folder like in the example i gave above. In the end, what's the diference? I am in favor of those scricter security rules. Its our computers that are in risk.

Dam... eheheh i've nothing installed in my pc now. Have to reinstall a bunch of things..
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2015, 04:34:34 pm »
You're right but it works both ways, "what's the difference?" OP is working, and  there is a lot of other software in that folder from a variety of sources that all work fine too. So, unless it stops working, I'll just leave it
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2015, 04:48:44 pm »
I guess I should clarify: Program Files as we knew it no longer exists. From my experience Program Files now only seems to like things that actually have something to do with Windows. Other programs seem to be happier outside that section. YMMV.
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2015, 06:21:18 am »
Quote from: TAnimaL on November 20, 2015, 04:34:34 pm
You're right but it works both ways, "what's the difference?"

None! I'm happy that it works. :)
Guys, if anyone has Windows 10 installed can you check if just setting...

Quote from: SFC.INI
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async=0
hwblit=0

Will solve all windows10 related problems, beside installing it in a "safe folder"?
Thnx.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2015, 06:38:44 am by d4v1ks »
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2015, 09:20:40 am »
Since I posted this I've upgraded to windows 10 on my main machine. I might just have to try this.
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2015, 10:32:53 am »
My OP machine is still on XP, then again I haven't fired up the game in over a year...
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #48 on: November 21, 2015, 11:57:23 am »
Adam don't forget that the free upgrade to Windows 10 is valid only for a year.

If you have really that patience and free time... you can make a system image backup, upgrade to get the license, make an image system again, and get back to win7. That way you would have always a backup with a valid license for when you feel ready to try it.
I jumped from win7 to win10 and don't miss many things. I know that there are some important pieces of software that aren't upgraded to win10 yet. But it must be only a matter of time.
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2015, 12:13:24 pm »
I don't reading the Windows 10 upgrade to be only free for 1 year.

If, true then Microsoft is essentially holding millions of PCs/laptops hostage in a form of extortion LOL. Can you imagine the Class Action lawsuit that should result?

Back to the task at hand:

I'm looking to come back to this game but I'm very frustrated attempting to get SFC: OP to run.

I am on Windows 10 and have tried running SFC:OP in windows XP, 7, and 8 compatibility mode and nothng changes for me.  I've tried the above mod and have a separate FRESH install (non-patched) and neither works.  I also tried the new 2560 SFCOP.exe from the Unofficial SFC:OP patch.

So far I can get to the skirmish screen and from there the game hangs...

Anybody using Windows 10 figure this out?
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2015, 12:21:42 pm »
Have you tried the solution above?

"...here is a link to the full game after installed (484MB). http://1drv.ms/1MHjOOC It still requires a key to work!!
   Just unpack it on your personnal documents folder using a tool like http://www.7-zip.org/"

being a personnal folder, something like "C:\Users\Klingon Fanatic\Documents"



About the 1 year free upgrade. Theres a lot of info on net about it. Here's an example:
http://www.neowin.net/news/psa-windows-10-upgrade-is-only-free-in-the-first-year-if-you-have-a-valid-qualifying-license
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2015, 02:50:42 pm »
KF, does it hang here?
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2015, 03:16:55 pm »
Quote from: TarMinyatur on November 21, 2015, 02:50:42 pm
KF, does it hang here?

Yes. That is where it hangs for me.
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2015, 03:23:29 pm »
Where you have the game installed?
Did you followed any of the instructions above?
Have you all your graphic card and sound drivers up to date?
Have you installed the directplay feature that sfcop asks for?
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2015, 03:32:36 pm »
Quote from: d4v1ks on November 21, 2015, 03:23:29 pm
Where you have the game installed?

C:/Program Files (x86)


Quote from: d4v1ks on November 21, 2015, 03:23:29 pm
Did you followed any of the instructions above?
Pretty sure I did everything right. I was playing this a few months when I had Windows 8.1 but uninstalled this before I got Windows 10.

Quote from: d4v1ks on November 21, 2015, 03:23:29 pm
You have all your graphic card and sound drivers up to date?

Yes. I have been playing much more modern PC games with steeper requirements.

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You installed the directplay feature that sfcop asks for?
If you mean  Direct X 8, then no. I have the most current version of Direct X installed.

I also copiedthe mod posted above and even added the unofficial 2560 patch and I just can get past the skirmish selection screen.
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2015, 03:40:22 pm »
Quote from: Klingon Fanatic on November 21, 2015, 03:32:36 pm
Where you have the game installed?

"C:/Program Files (x86)"  +  "I was playing this a few months when I had Windows 8.1 but uninstalled this before I got Windows 10."   -------->  Error 1
"You installed the directplay feature that sfcop asks for?"  +  "If you mean  Direct X 8, then no. I have the most current version of Direct X installed."   -----------> Error 2

Error 1:  Windows 10 is not Windows 8/8.1. Security is handled diferently! Try to install it in a personal folder as sugested above please...
Error 2:  Windows 10 pops an warning when entering game saying it needs a feature to work. May be dependent on solving Error 1 first.
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2015, 04:41:29 pm »
d4v1ks

Thanks again for the help.

I moved my copy of the SFC OP  mod posted above to my documents, clicked on install direct x 8, and adjusted my SFCOPSetupMFC to Software/800 x600 and I am happy to report SFC:OP 2560 is working properly.

Strange that it would not work on my desktop.

Now to recollect my favorite models....
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2015, 04:56:03 pm »
No problem!
We discovered now that installing SFC to some places doesn't work on Windows 10 as we suspected!
By look of the posts above...

"C:\Program Files(x86)\"
"C:\Users\JohnDoe\Desktop\"

Seems both dead ends.
Of course aditional testing will not hurt.
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2015, 09:36:15 pm »
When I installed SFC OP to my old Win 7 system, I put it in C:\Taldren\

This worked for me without any issues.  I haven't tried it with Win 10 yet but I don't expect any issues.  Hope this helps.
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Re: Running SFC Op on windows 8.1
« Reply #59 on: November 25, 2015, 03:04:11 pm »
Quote from: d4v1ks on November 21, 2015, 04:56:03 pm
"C:\Program Files(x86)\"
This one isn't a new problem, it came with Windows Vista and the infamous UAC system. Deactivate it and you should be good to go.

Quote from: d4v1ks on November 21, 2015, 04:56:03 pm
"C:\Users\JohnDoe\Desktop\"
The desktop is not supposed to hold programs/games :P
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