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ReAder

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U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« on: March 13, 2003, 06:05:52 pm »
Right now it's still a WIP model, I'm gonna try to make it more detailed (new textures, higher poly count...).  I just wanted to get input on the design, like it? hate it?



I'm also gonna move all four nacelles forward to give it a more stubby look.    

Darkness1

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2003, 06:12:35 pm »
I like it  the way it is now  

DestinyCalling

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2003, 06:24:18 pm »
Yeah, I think it looks worthy of more attention.....  

Lord Schtupp

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2003, 07:17:29 pm »
Looks cool but the name sucks bad. Really bad.

Parislord

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2003, 07:36:55 pm »
Y'know, I always thought a std Reliant with the Roll-bar and warp engines swapping places would look cool...

 

ReAder

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2003, 08:51:02 pm »
Meh, I was just following the physical model of a designer, I figured that I may as well keep the name as well .  

Lord Schtupp

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2003, 09:18:49 pm »
Yea pay no attention to me - Im just down on the anything French right now. Its actually a pretty good name bro, good work

Klingon Fanatic

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2003, 09:57:12 pm »
Nicely done, perhaps the registry should read "USS Yamamoto NX *****"; this would have made a much better stock BB!

We really could use another USS Belisarius

Qa Pla!

KF
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Rod O'neal

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2003, 10:17:14 pm »
I think that I agree with you on moving the engines forward a bit. Maybe move the nacelle
pylons forward on the hull to where it starts to narrow. It looks like it would compliment the
lines of the secondary hull there.

Pataflafla

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2003, 01:33:16 am »
I like it. It has some nice design features.

Anybody speak French? What does the name mean?

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kevlar

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2003, 02:21:01 am »
It means Lionheart or, in a more academic translation,  Heart of  Lion.  

Turling

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2003, 02:21:42 am »
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Right now it's still a WIP model, I'm gonna try to make it more detailed (new textures, higher poly count...).  I just wanted to get input on the design, like it? hate it?



I'm also gonna move all four nacelles forward to give it a more stubby look.    




Good job!  I forgot where I first saw this beastie, but I like it.  

Turling

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2003, 02:22:39 am »
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It means Lionheart or, in a more academic translation,  Heart of  Lion.  




As in Richard the Lionhearted.  

Anthony_Scott

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2003, 02:30:40 am »
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Yea pay no attention to me - Im just down on the anything French right now. Its actually a pretty good name bro, good work  



Just because we French are allies with the US does not make us slaves...we are entitled to our own ideas about Iraq because maybe, just maybe, North Korea might turn out to be more worrisome than Iraq..Afghanistan was good, I have deep concerns about Iraq mainly because all my friends are there and I will be going there soon myself..anyway, we shall see soon enough that all this is just family buisness with Bush...I serve the people but am no tokhe str'aav as the Klingons would say..Long Live the United States!

ReAder

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2003, 10:10:23 am »
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Yea pay no attention to me - Im just down on the anything French right now. Its actually a pretty good name bro, good work  



Just because we French are allies with the US does not make us slaves...we are entitled to our own ideas about Iraq because maybe, just maybe, North Korea might turn out to be more worrisome than Iraq..Afghanistan was good, I have deep concerns about Iraq mainly because all my friends are there and I will be going there soon myself..anyway, we shall see soon enough that all this is just family buisness with Bush...I serve the people but am no tokhe str'aav as the Klingons would say..Long Live the United States!  




Lol,  ....right....on.....?


I'm also gonna change the enterprise 2 pylons that extend for the nacelles so that they are the reliant ones and the original designer just informed me that I've got the secondary hull turned upside down..so I'll be changing that as well .
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Darkness1

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2003, 05:50:15 pm »
i would like this version as well  

Parislord

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2003, 06:58:52 pm »
Indeed, it's a great historical irony that "Richard the Lionheart"  one of the better known "english" kings (to us in the US) was directly decended of French blood and likely spoke hardly a word of english...

 
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Darktide

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2003, 07:40:38 pm »
Its not irony at all, the English and the French share many historical origins. I mean, we were conquered by the Normans!! Richard wasnt french, he was born in Oxford, his father was Henry II. His  mother was Eleanor of Aquitane and he spent most of his youth at her court Poitiers. During his ten year reign he fought alongside the french in the third crusade and upon his return crushed a coup his brother John and  Phillip II of france had plotted. It was for his prowess and courage in battle that the french nicknamed him 'Coeur de Lion', (heart of the lion). And there ends todays history lesson.  

FPF_TraceyG

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2003, 07:52:13 pm »
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Indeed, it's a great historical irony that "Richard the Lionheart"  one of the better known "english" kings (to us in the US) was directly decended of French blood and likely spoke hardly a word of english...

 




Je m'excuse, mon amies, mais, je ne parle pas francaise tres bien.

Darktide

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2003, 02:03:38 am »
quel tracey, ne parlez-vous pas français très bien ou dites-vous Richard que le didnt de lionheart parlent probablement français très bien?  

kevlar

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2003, 02:08:52 am »
It's all fault of the bloody huns !!

FPF_TraceyG

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2003, 02:38:25 am »
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quel tracey, ne parlez-vous pas français très bien ou dites-vous Richard que le didnt de lionheart parlent probablement français très bien?    




Moi, je m'excuse...  

Darktide

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2003, 03:20:20 am »
aucun besoin de faire des excuses, im un Anglais ignorant  

Parislord

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2003, 04:35:44 am »
Well, I'll have to take you're word on that, accoarding to James Burke's brilliant "Connections" series on PBS (and the printed version on my desk), he was of French extraction...

I guess you'd have to look into Henry and Elanor's family history to determine that, though where you're born has little to do with it.  I was born on a 747 over the Pacific Ocean, does that make me a Pacifican?

Just kidding.

My point being that his name Richard was about his only English trait.

Aenigma

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2003, 05:01:52 am »
Je suis un Neerlandais qui parle un peu de français.Ici, il y a plus de hommes qui ne parlent français pas. Donc, nous sommes uniques.

Je pense que le Coeur de Lion est un bâtiment des étoiles tres beau, mais il est un navire du Starfleet, et j'adore les bâtiments Romulans de plus.

  did i just make a post in french?  

Aenigma    

Klingon Fanatic

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2003, 06:03:51 am »
As a point of trivia and to reel this dicussion back in, I wanted to point out that there was a version of this ship kitbashed from a stock FCL, FCA and used the stock FCV warp engines. I believe it was in one of Darkdrone's earlier model packs; possibly even for SFC1, which is no longer available. I have that version on a' lost' CD somewhere...

Qa Pla!

KF

Darktide

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2003, 08:53:33 am »
Parislord, he was of French extraction, that what I said. His father Henry was English and his mother Eleanor was French. And he spent most of his youth in France, but he was still English. I should know English history, I am English after all.  

E_Look

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2003, 10:31:42 am »
KF,

You've any more in your memory as to the possible name or more of what it may have looked like?

Anyway, if you or anyone still has some of the much older Chris Jones ship packs, it might be in there, in those things, I've seen ships by all sorts of modelers, including ones made when SFC1 was the only "game in town".

hellsgate

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2003, 10:43:44 am »
Just one question: Where's the deflector system on this thing? I like the symmetry of this design & the evolution of the Sovereign-type profile. I'd like to suggest discretely tucking some Hornet-Class or Excelsior-B style auxiliary deflectors in the outter-most edges of the saucer. (footnote: the Defiant-Class refit Hornet-Class designed by Cyrille "Tachy" Lefevre.)

Just my two cents.
Jason K.S. Hauck
 

ReAder

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2003, 02:31:12 am »
Well, I'm not sure there'll be room for a deflector, besides I'm trying to follow the physical model as close as I can right now, though if you could get some pics of what you're describing it might give some ideas .

Anthony_Scott

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2003, 02:57:36 am »
Je crois bien que vous avez poste en Francais..bravobravobravo. I look forward to downloading this ship!!!!!!!
 

Lord Schtupp

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2003, 12:17:40 am »
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Yea pay no attention to me - Im just down on the anything French right now. Its actually a pretty good name bro, good work  



Just because we French are allies with the US does not make us slaves...we are entitled to our own ideas about Iraq because maybe, just maybe, North Korea might turn out to be more worrisome than Iraq..Afghanistan was good, I have deep concerns about Iraq mainly because all my friends are there and I will be going there soon myself..anyway, we shall see soon enough that all this is just family buisness with Bush...I serve the people but am no tokhe str'aav as the Klingons would say..Long Live the United States!  





Viva le France!
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Lord Schtupp

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2003, 12:22:34 am »
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It's all fault of the bloody huns !!  





Sie sehen die Franzosen, immer die Deutschen fur jedes schwierigkeit zu tadeln, das entlang kommt!

Deutschland uber alles!

starforce2

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2003, 12:27:10 am »
Just remember to mod this thing so the minute anyone fires at it, it powers down and surrenders

kevlar

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2003, 05:48:46 am »
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It's all fault of the bloody huns !!  





Sie sehen die Franzosen, immer die Deutschen fur jedes schwierigkeit zu tadeln, das entlang kommt!

Deutschland uber alles!  




Yup that's true : Ich tadele die Deutschen .Immer.  

hellsgate

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2003, 09:39:55 am »
http://www.angelfire.com/ak4/startrekfanfiction/Fleet4.html

The Hornet-Class designed by Cyrille "Tachy" Lefevre.

http://devil.beyond.net.au/startrek2/excelsiorb/index.htm

Excelsior B-Class Images

Check out the deflectors on these ships, they're not huge but perfect for concealing someplace out of the way.
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Lord Schtupp

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2003, 12:02:13 pm »
 
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 Yup that's true : Ich tadele die Deutschen .Immer.

 





Dann müssen Sie ein verlegter Franzose sein, der dann in Portugal wohnt.  

Arcilte

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2003, 12:28:18 pm »
I must say that the ship looks awsome.  

kevlar

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2003, 02:52:10 pm »
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Quote:

 Yup that's true : Ich tadele die Deutschen .Immer.

 





Dann müssen Sie ein verlegter Franzose sein, der dann in Portugal wohnt.    





Unrecht. Ich bin Hälfte-Jude. Meine Familie ging auf "hollydays" zum treblinka zwischen 1941-1945.  

ReAder

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Re: U.S.S Coeur De Lion
« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2003, 09:34:29 pm »
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http://www.angelfire.com/ak4/startrekfanfiction/Fleet4.html

The Hornet-Class designed by Cyrille "Tachy" Lefevre.

http://devil.beyond.net.au/startrek2/excelsiorb/index.htm

Excelsior B-Class Images

Check out the deflectors on these ships, they're not huge but perfect for concealing someplace out of the way.
 




Hmm, those are good examples...I'll try to add an oval shaped deflector at the bottom somewhere....btw, I haven't had any experience modding any type of ship, so if anyone can offer tips/get me started or even mod it themselves you're more than welcome.