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Old ship for sfc1
« on: November 22, 2012, 06:11:00 pm »
M looking for there 2 ships for now. Phase 2 CA Uss Endeavor By "Stress puppy" and Anduril. The old fcl, there are no longer at Fleetdock 13  :buck2:

I lost so much data and backup.  :(

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2012, 09:55:04 pm »
"The old fcl"

Do you mean this one?


And do you mean this Endeavor?

http://sfc.battleclinic.com/docks/download.php?id=3928
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2012, 07:36:56 am »
Yes those two model.

Do you know if atra hasis site is still online?

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2012, 03:11:25 pm »
Far as I know his site is long dead but I have a collection of his stuff.

I have a couple versions of the OCL, the original FD13, Starfleet Standardization Program (pictured), and the hospital ship skin for both SFC1 and 2/OP I could mail you, also the first of those is in the SFB2OP file in the downloads section here along with many other Fleetdock 13 models.
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2012, 05:16:33 pm »
In atra's ship m looking for the fca tos Potemkin, the fca tos republic, the fca tos Archernar. Do you have a prototype kinda fca tos that is upside down? Don't remember the ship name.

If you have klingon and romuland ship tos for sfc1 would be great.

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2012, 06:55:08 pm »
Forwarded several emails that I already had made with the files. Sent the OCL. I believe the prototype is the declaration class made from one of Jeffries early sketches for the TOS E. Will look to see if I can find the specifically mentioned ones. I still haven't organized everything yet.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2012, 07:22:49 pm »
Thanks. I will include them  :coolsmiley:

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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2012, 07:35:22 pm »
Believe I found the Achernar and several more.

http://starfleetcommand3.filefront.com/developer/AtraHasis;8125
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2012, 09:08:36 am »
they are for sfc2  :-\
Beside I can re do the ship for various time era. Its finding version for sfc1 for all that I don't know if he did or not.

is there a way to contact him (if he respond to email)?

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2012, 01:22:13 pm »
Those were created from the original SFC1 model version. One of them listed in the readme that the file included both 1 & 2 versions, guess the uploader stripped the 1 version out of the file.

Don't have and never had Atra's email info, heard a rumor he's still kicking and willing to share if you know how to find him.

Check with Bernard Guignard, he posted on Atra's forum that he had collected Atra's models before the site went down. I don't know if he still has them all or not.

Forum link: http://atrahasis.proboards.com/index.cgi?

I will make an effort today and tomorrow to sort through my mess of files, I was sure I had the SFC1 version Phase 2 Achernar.
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2012, 07:05:56 pm »
Still organizing but I found another Declaration Class by Atra-Hasis dated "MAR 2000" for SFC 1. The one I sent in the emails was for SFC2.

Would you like it?
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2012, 12:19:54 pm »
Yes. Also can you check if you have the potemkin? I have the model but not the texture of it, beside it might not be for sfc1. Check if you have the mod for sfc1 (don't need the texture) of the archernar, republic.

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2012, 01:04:50 pm »
Will do on all of it.

I had my models all thrown together by Era and somehow even the 1 & 2 versions got mixed together. I'm trying to re-sort by Author first, then game version, then Era.

You say you have the Potempkin model, can you mail that archive to me it might make the hunt easier...how I'm not sure but you never know.
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2012, 02:15:12 pm »
The Declaration is not atra's stuff and the copernicus is a shuttle.  :-\

i will check if I have them on the dvd I got, I might have them.

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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2012, 02:27:00 pm »
Have to disagree, the readme clearly lists it as made and textured by Atra-Hasis it's a match to his other readmes as well. It may be one of his earlier models but it's his. He based the textures off a Daedalus class, P81's, because "not only were they good but also to give his pre-TOS ships and mine consistency in their look (I'm a continuity-holic)."

I included the shuttle simply to include the shuttle, was sending his other model anyway. Still looking for the others.

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Name: Declaration-class 
Race: Federation
ERA: Pre-TOS - TOS
Hull Designation: CT
Class: Training Cruiser
Date : MAR 2000
Author : ATRA-HASIS
Email : ATRAHASIS1@HOTMAIL.COM
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/atrahasis1/index.html
Credits- PRIMARY  HULL AND SOME TEXTURES BASED ON GHOST / MOONRAKER / LANSING TOS CONSTITUTION MODEL, OTHER TEXTURES BORROWED FROM PNEUMONIC 81'S DAEDALUS MODEL .
Model Created by: ATRA-HASIS   
Textures by: ATRA-HASIS, AND MODIFIED ONES FROM THE SOURCES STATED ABOVE.


Think I have that Daedalus model here somewhere also.
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2012, 02:55:51 pm »
The second one you send look like it came from fleetdock13, it look so ugly compare to what we have seen from Atra's. It look like someone was pretending to be Atra.

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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2012, 05:31:11 pm »
The second one you send look like it came from fleetdock13, it look so ugly compare to what we have seen from Atra's. It look like someone was pretending to be Atra.

Yeah it's not one of my favorites either, much bigger fan of the SFC2 version, in this case though it was Atra trying to match someone.

When I finish sorting everything I'm going to post a list of all the Atra models by game version, date made, and name in the Models forum.
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2012, 06:33:18 pm »
I found the Potemkin from atra's, but its password protected. I try all those that are know, but I can't unzip it. M looking again if I can find another one that is not protected of that I can unzip it.  :-\

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2012, 07:07:56 pm »
Try:  bushsucks...  or   bushsucks   if you haven't already. Only password mention I could find on the forum.

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2012, 07:54:53 pm »
I try JohnKerry2004, VoteKerry, Kerry2004 but still not working. I will try a rar password cracker to see it I can unzip it

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2012, 04:00:34 pm »
I used kerry2004 and it opened up my version  pm me your e-mail and I'll send you the potemkin and  atra's pusher FFa

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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2012, 04:27:46 pm »
If you would please mail me those as well.
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2012, 04:49:50 pm »
I got the pusher that is in the Potemkin folder.



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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2012, 05:13:06 pm »
The problem was I was trying Kerry2004 with a capital "K", kerry2004 work fine  :crazy2:

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2012, 05:46:24 pm »
Now after checking them, I was wondering if the tos romulan ship D7 from Atra seem to be only made for sfc2.

The Monoceros seem also to be made only for sfc2.

The Republic and the Archernar.

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2012, 07:23:58 pm »
I notice that Potemkin model is SFC2. If you'd like I can make you an sfc1 compatible version with just a small texture edit?
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2012, 07:39:03 pm »
Is it just the texture or the model it self that is made for sfc2?

I would like some other model that I mention, well since I can't add new class in sfc1 cause its crash.

I would need one light cruiser tos era fed. Starbase, battlestation, base station, battlecruiser, and dreadnought that work on sfc1. Good one, not the one from fleetdock13. The vanguard station base made by atra, is there a sfc1 version of it?

I will check what I need in the Klingon and Romulan

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2012, 07:42:49 pm »
To Don It's not good idea to post your e-mail address on the boards as anyone can get it always use pms.I would remove it if I were you.
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2012, 08:33:05 pm »
Is it just the texture or the model it self that is made for sfc2?

The Potemkin model you emailed me itself is SFC2.

Swapping the model for Atra's SFC1 Constitution model and editing the phull texture slightly gives you an SFC1 Potemkin although you lose the glowy deflector and the texture detail just under the bridge dome.

There's a Vanguard model for SFC1 on Battleclinic if that'll do.
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2012, 11:01:57 am »
DO it, I want to see if its good.
Also there is 432 pages on fed ships, give me a link  :buck2:

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2012, 01:26:20 pm »
I'll mail the Conntemkin  over. Open two modviewer windows and compare them, they are virtually identical. In fact, looks like the Connie has the same secondary hull but a higher poly saucer section.

There's only 141 pages of feds, and a search of "Vanguard" in the search box would bring it up. Here's the page though:

Vanguard Watchtower Starbase 47
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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2012, 08:35:59 pm »
 :buck2: :buck2: :buck2:arrrgggg.

my laptop is in a coma. hd not detected. wont be back before friday.

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2012, 04:37:58 pm »
i got a desktop with good hd. i just need a wireless card and my speaker that are at the storage.
tomorow i should be back online.

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Re: Old ship for sfc1
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2012, 09:24:04 pm »
I got bad news and good news.

the bad news is my laptop is out of order.

the good news is the hd that was in it is ok, I will transfers what I have in it to this com.

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« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2012, 10:03:41 am »
Don you are having one hell of a time with your IT needs. I hope that you get it sorted out soon

Vipre do you still need that Atrahasis file for the Potemkin ? and pusher FFA

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« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2012, 10:35:37 am »
No, Don sent it to me, I swapped some files out with another Atra model and sent him back an SFC1 compatible "Potemkin"...with slightly altered textures however.

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« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2012, 09:23:10 pm »
m checking old notes of ship tos era and tmp era that are for sfc2.

I will check if I can find them, if not I will post a request for them.  :P