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Poetic Justice?
« on: May 13, 2012, 04:18:26 pm »
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Among the issues before the judge at Monday's hearing was Microsoft's contention that Motorola breached a contract by demanding unreasonable licensing fees for use of some of its industry-standard patents. The judge was also asked to rule on Motorola's claim that Microsoft gave up its rights to license those patents at reasonable rates when it sued, rather than negotiated with, Motorola.


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The case here could help set licensing rates that Microsoft would pay Motorola in order to keep selling Xbox and Windows products worldwide. Motorola had asked courts in the U.S. and Germany to issue injunctions against the sales of some of those products.


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The dispute heard Monday stems from a letter Motorola sent to Microsoft in 2010 asking for 2.25 percent of the sale price of each device that uses Xbox and Windows, since the technologies contain standards-essential patents belonging to Motorola.

Microsoft considered that rate outrageous, saying it would amount to $4 billion annually.


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The company said after Monday's hearing that it's had a long history of licensing its patents with more than 50 companies but that Microsoft has refused to negotiate, opting instead for "an aggressive litigation strategy."


Steve Ballmer (CEO of Microsoft) has for years been using the unsubstantiated claims that Linux violates MS patents (which patents in what programs he won't say) as propaganda against Linux.  Recently MS has "strong armed"  various Android using companies into patent license agreements. 

The Linux community has repeatedly ask which patents in what programs so they could remove the patent violating parts if they in deed exist and the patents are valid.  (Linus Torvalds recently found prior art on the notorious FAT patent which can be used to invalidate it).  MS has refused with the stated reason that they might be challenged and invalidated (if they can be then they are not actually "real" patents and can't be violated).

So how is it poetic justice for Motorola to be due patent licences on Windows and XBox?  Motorola is now owned by Google the creators of Android and a big user of Linux (Android has a Linux base).

MS recently settled with Barnes and Noble over their use of Android (by buying into the Nook E-Book/tablet for about $300 million).  MS started it and then ended up paying to B&N.
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Re: Poetic Justice?
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 06:37:14 pm »
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The US International Trade Commission today ordered an import ban on Motorola Mobility Android products, agreeing with Microsoft that the devices infringe a Microsoft patent on “generating meeting requests” from a mobile device.


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You might say Microsoft and Motorola are even now, as Motorola recently won a sales ban in Germany on Windows 7 PCs and the Xbox 360, although that ruling is still pending.


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Motorola sent us a response noting that Microsoft's initial suit asserted nine patents, which were whittled down to just one. "Although we are disappointed by the Commission’s ruling that certain Motorola Mobility products violated one patent, we look forward to reading the full opinion to understand its reasoning. Motorola Mobility will not experience any impact in the near term, as the Commission's ruling is subject to a $0.33/per unit bond during the 60 day Presidential review period. We will explore all options including appeal."


Assuming the German ban goes through on Windows 7 and XBox I wonder who will lose the most money.
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