Topic: kitbash request

[Bernard Guignard]

wondering if someone could take Lord schuppts  Uss Monitor heavy cruiser which the following warp engines



And Bash the following

http://jaynz.trekships.org/images/Fed2265/Jaynz_Siva_2265.png
but move the pho-torps to the Neck  and move the warp engine forward a little more

also this in both double and single engine versions

http://jaynz.trekships.org/images/Fed2265/Jaynz_Monoceros_2265.png

[atheorhaven]

What's the secondary hull off Bernard?  Something like a Belknap?

[atheorhaven]

Well, looking at these, I think these are do-able.. it'll just be the bend on the Monocerse pylons I think..

[Terradyhne]

wondering if someone could take Lord schuppts  Uss Monitor heavy cruiser which the following warp engines



And Bash the following

http://jaynz.trekships.org/images/Fed2265/Jaynz_Siva_2265.png
but move the pho-torps to the Neck  and move the warp engine forward a little more

also this in both double and single engine versions

http://jaynz.trekships.org/images/Fed2265/Jaynz_Monoceros_2265.png

i have made a linear warp prototype engine Akula for A2, changeing it into a single-engine Saladin version would be no problem and i made a Monoceros model with two engines to.







don't have ever seen a single engine Monoceros version

if their quality is enough for you, i would be proud to give them somone willing to convert them to SFC versions. 

[Bernard Guignard]

What's the secondary hull off Bernard?  Something like a Belknap?

Hello Alec
The Drawing that I put up was just to Illustrate which warp engine the LN52 warp I was talking about 
Lord Schuppts Monitor class is an FCA with  Photon torpedos on the neck of the ship.

[Bernard Guignard]

but move the pho-torps to the Neck  and move the warp engine forward a little more

also this in both double and single engine versions

http://jaynz.trekships.org/images/Fed2265/Jaynz_Monoceros_2265.png
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i have made a linear warp prototype engine Akula for A2, changeing it into a single-engine Saladin version would be no problem and i made a Monoceros model with two engines to.







don't have ever seen a single engine Monoceros version

if their quality is enough for you, i would be proud to give them somone willing to convert them to SFC versions. 
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Terradyhne these are so very close   All you have to do is Move the Photon  Torpedos on the Saladin to the Neck positon
and add a second turbolift to the bridge. 

Yes well for the Monoceros all you would do is move the engine to the saucer centerline and put a support strut on each
side of the engine.  Keep the current look of the support stuts that you have in your model. 

[atheorhaven]

You make 'em Terra, I'll convert them over to SFC. 

[Bernard Guignard]

I whipped this up in Autocad yesterday its an example of what I'm looking for   



Haven't gotten around to drawing it yet but I was thinking of a couple of Strip mounted deflectors on eiither side of the
SNS Scanners on the primary hull. Atra used them on a couple of his models.

[Terradyhne]

ok than you want a Phase2 Saladin with LN52 nacelle 
yes this is even no problem for me, as i have made the models to kitbash this 

[Bernard Guignard]

ok than you want a Phase2 Saladin with LN52 nacelle 
yes this is even no problem for me, as i have made the models to kitbash this 

Thank you I greatly appreciate it

[atheorhaven]

Any updates on yours Terra?  I have one on the go (Siva) as well..

[Bernard Guignard]

Any updates on yours Terra?  I have one on the go (Siva) as well..

Wow Alec Very nicely done there. 

[Chrystoff]

No, kidding! That's very nice! 

[atheorhaven]

Not done, and this is under the "more the merrier" paradigm.  I want to get this one out (note, no torpedo launcher yet) more or less in conjunction with Terra's.  Don't want to upstage or discourage, which is why I was asking Terra about the status of his. 

(edit: Torpedo launcher I can live with is on.. my personal belief is that torpedo launchers are tied to the number of nacelles at least.  So I've modified the one on the Monitor to be a single torp launcher and then added it on.  Looks better IMO.  Also, attached a shot of it in ModViewer compared with the image I was working from..

[Bernard Guignard]

What's the secondary hull off Bernard?  Something like a Belknap?

Hello Alec
The Drawing that I put up was just to Illustrate which warp engine the LN52 warp I was talking about 
Lord Schuppts Monitor class is an FCA with  Photon torpedos on the neck of the ship.

The Secondary hull on the Battlecruiser is something I designed my self  If I ever revisit it I'd make a couple of
changes especially where the warp pylons meet.

[atheorhaven]

Haven't gotten around to drawing it yet but I was thinking of a couple of Strip mounted deflectors on eiither side of the
SNS Scanners on the primary hull. Atra used them on a couple of his models.

Bernard, can you show me what you're looking for here?  Then I can look at adding it on the Siva I'm working on. 

Monoceres hasn't been started yet, but I do have an idea of how I'm going to do that now. 

[Bernard Guignard]

Haven't gotten around to drawing it yet but I was thinking of a couple of Strip mounted deflectors on eiither side of the
SNS Scanners on the primary hull. Atra used them on a couple of his models.

Bernard, can you show me what you're looking for here?  Then I can look at adding it on the Siva I'm working on. 

Monoceres hasn't been started yet, but I do have an idea of how I'm going to do that now.

Hello Alec
 This is what I had in mind  Atrahasis did something similar on a couple of his later model destroyers and Tugs its a flush mount
deflector built on both sides of sns scanners

[BOxSee]

That last concept looks very well balanced, any more views Bernard?

[atheorhaven]

Hello Alec
 This is what I had in mind  Atrahasis did something similar on a couple of his later model destroyers and Tugs its a flush mount
deflector built on both sides of sns scanners

Okay, got it. 

Now question... I don't want my design philosophy to necessarily overrule yours.. did you want the second torpedo launcher on the ship?  Or should I do both meshes for those that want a choice?

[Bernard Guignard]

That last concept looks very well balanced, any more views Bernard?

Hello BoxSee
 I'll put up what I've done so far its still a work in process for me    among my manyt other projects. 

Hello Alec
 This is what I had in mind  Atrahasis did something similar on a couple of his later model destroyers and Tugs its a flush mount
deflector built on both sides of sns scanners

Okay, got it. 

Now question... I don't want my design philosophy to necessarily overrule yours.. did you want the second torpedo launcher on the ship?  Or should I do both meshes for those that want a choice?

Hi Alec  I'm for giving the community as much choice as they want   

[Panzergranate]

I've always considered that the SCNN (LN-52) early Linear Warp Engines looked more interesting than the later LN-64 and Avaline Linear Warp Engine that closely followed them.

The Monoceros is listed as a scout class in the Franz Joseph book.

Very nice.... Will there be an SFC 1 version??

Other SCNN equiped vessels include the Quillen Class (FR-1900 - 1919) and Ajax Class (FE-1920 - 1939). The Quillen is basically the Surya with SCNN LN-52 Warp Engines. The Ajax Class is more closely related to the Coventry Class (FE-1230) and shares the same truncated D-shaped saucer.

Both Classes were gradually rebuilt and added to the Knox Class (FR-1940) frigate inventory sometime after 2275.

So far I've modelled a Quillen by re-engining a Surya plus altering the name and registery on the textures. The Ajax is still on the "must do sometime" list as it has awkward pylons to contend with.
 

[Bernard Guignard]

I've always considered that the SCNN (LN-52) early Linear Warp Engines looked more interesting than the later LN-64 and Avaline Linear Warp Engine that closely followed them.

The Monoceros is listed as a scout class in the Franz Joseph book.

Very nice.... Will there be an SFC 1 version??

Other SCNN equiped vessels include the Quillen Class (FR-1900 - 1919) and Ajax Class (FE-1920 - 1939). The Quillen is basically the Surya with SCNN LN-52 Warp Engines. The Ajax Class is more closely related to the Coventry Class (FE-1230) and shares the same truncated D-shaped saucer.

Both Classes were gradually rebuilt and added to the Knox Class (FR-1940) frigate inventory sometime after 2275.

So far I've modelled a Quillen by re-engining a Surya plus altering the name and registery on the textures. The Ajax is still on the "must do sometime" list as it has awkward pylons to contend with.

Would be nice to see  those 

[atheorhaven]

Hi Alec  I'm for giving the community as much choice as they want   

Okay then.. I'll do both, but that raises the question as to what function both ships would serve.   What would the designation for the Siva be with that dual torpedo launcher?  Something like an FDD++?  FDDX?  Sorry, am not a SFB player so am guessing at what it would be.  With the single launcher, I'm thinking FDD+ or so?

Also, for your split deflector, I have an idea of what I'm going to do with it.. I suspect I'll take my cues from the Phase 2 designs I've seen and go with a non-illuminated grill backlit/imposed on a small lit back support structure.  Light should be a brown/gold colour. 

[Bernard Guignard]

Hi Alec  I'm for giving the community as much choice as they want   

Okay then.. I'll do both, but that raises the question as to what function both ships would serve.   What would the designation for the Siva be with that dual torpedo launcher?  Something like an FDD++?  FDDX?  Sorry, am not a SFB player so am guessing at what it would be.  With the single launcher, I'm thinking FDD+ or so?

Also, for your split deflector, I have an idea of what I'm going to do with it.. I suspect I'll take my cues from the Phase 2 designs I've seen and go with a non-illuminated grill backlit/imposed on a small lit back support structure.  Light should be a brown/gold colour. 

I'm kind of looking at a design Lineage Not really thinking about where it would fit in though FDD+ or ++  would work
the Grill idea is great I'm looking forward to seeing that.   I'm trying to decide how to handle shuttle bay or bays.
thinking easiest would be  top hatch on port and starboard side 

[atheorhaven]

Playing with the Monoceres idea tonight.  Still some work to do as you can see with the pylons, but all the basic work is done. 

Terra, where are you.. don't want to have driven you away from releasing here.. :p

[Bernard Guignard]

The Monoceros is coming along nicely

for those people who asked for more views here's something for you

Elevation View


Dorsal View


Aft View


Ventral View


Enjoy

[Terradyhne]

Playing with the Monoceres idea tonight.  Still some work to do as you can see with the pylons, but all the basic work is done. 

Terra, where are you.. don't want to have driven you away from releasing here.. :p

looks good and sorry, i'm mostly lost in playin STO and have so much on schedule to finish.

didn't Atrahasis have a Monoceros model released ??

[Bernard Guignard]

Playing with the Monoceres idea tonight.  Still some work to do as you can see with the pylons, but all the basic work is done. 

Terra, where are you.. don't want to have driven you away from releasing here.. :p

looks good and sorry, i'm mostly lost in playin STO and have so much on schedule to finish.

didn't Atrahasis have a Monoceros model released ??

Hello Terradyhne Atra did release a single engine Monoceros based on  what looks to be the AMT Model Saucer design.

[Bernard Guignard]

I adjusted the shuttle bay heres  the final Version
Ventral View


AFT view


Elevation View


Revised 3 View

[atheorhaven]

I adjusted the shuttle bay heres  the final Version

Saved for texture adjustments..

[Bernard Guignard]

Thank you very much Alec

[Terradyhne]

I got it converted to SFC OP. 
pic out of the Modviewer:


where is the shuttlebay, at the saucer front or on the bottom of the saucer ??

[GotAFarmYet?]

The bay is on the bottom near the neck according to the pics above

[atheorhaven]

Updated textures on the Siva.  Still need to add docking bays under her, plus do the nacelle registries.

Btw, enjoying the fact that Terra and I are both doing these.  Viva La Choice! 

[Terradyhne]

Btw, enjoying the fact that Terra and I are both doing these.  Viva La Choice!   

but yours will have more downloads, as it is higher poly and uses better textures. 

[Bernard Guignard]

Both of you have done some great work there 

Terrdyhne Refer to the Pictures above your post you will see the ventral view of the saucer
with 2 shuttlebays  aft port and starboard 

[atheorhaven]

I think people will be downloading for different needs Terradyhne.. and both will be downloaded. 

I can see your ship being used in poly heavy fleet battles where my kitbash will cause stutter and problems.  Also, not everyone wants or needs high poly and admires lower poly ships.  I'm not doing my kitbash on a poly budget, where for A2 you have to.

So don't sell yourself or the model short.. I think it looks gorgeous for where it is in the poly limit.  And textures can always be touched up and still keep the parameters of what you have.  All one needs to do is download G@W of Nanner's to see what was done to conserve texture quality and size.