Topic: Set phasers to ‘remake' ....

[Fedman NCC-3758]

Pushing for a new-generation ‘Star Trek’ series


You don’t have to be Mr. Spock to think that a new version of “Star Trek” would be totally logical.

The iconic sci-fi series -- which has gone through five generations since its debut in 1966 with William Shatner as Captain Kirk -- is being prepared for a sixth version, according to reports yesterday.

David Foster, a sci-fi writer/producer/consultant who last worked on “Battlestar Galactica,” has developed an elaborate new version of the series warhorse set within the series’ established timeframe.

Foster, who heads 1947 Entertainment, hopes to eventually pitch the show to CBS, according to trekweb.com.

CBS is the sister company to Paramount, which owns the rights to “Star Trek.”

“While all of the feedback and news has been completely positive and we continue to make great progress and garner support from key individuals, 1947 Entertainment has not yet officially pitched the show to CBS,” Foster told the site.

A new “Trek” series would be huge news in the sci-fi world. The last series, “Star Trek: Enterprise,” starring Scott Bakula, ended in 2005 after four seasons on the now-defunct UPN.

The new version would be set after the “Voyager” era, Foster says.

“The series concept is fully developed, subject to change, of course, with a solid 5- to 7- year series plan, pilot script and conceptualized finale that intends to define ‘Star Trek’ for generations,” Foster says.

“This is a drastic departure from the typical 8- to 10- page treatment of the previously pitched ‘Star Trek’ series ideas that have not included even a pilot script.”

The latest is “designed to return ‘Star Trek’ to its original series roots . . . without disregarding the other series and movies.”

He also said the show would feature a “much younger” cast than previous versions -- and would include “Star Trek” staples including Klingons, Ferengi, Andorians, Vulcans and Trill.

“The Ferengi have discovered a vast new resource that has propelled them towards instant riches and power beyond anything they have previously experienced,” he says.

Classic TV shows are coming back to prime time in a big way these days.

A new version of “Hawaii Five-O” did well last year and a “Charlie’s Angels” re-do is set for next month. A new “Bewitched” is also reportedly in the works.

But the “Star Trek” franchise is perhaps the most sturdy TV series ever.

There have been 11 big-screen “Star Trek” movies alone.




BACKTREKKERS: It’s been 45 years and four versions since the original “Star Trek.”



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[FA Frey XC]

Interesting.



Regards,

[Sirgod]

I'm ready for some new Trek. heck even the fan made films are better than no Trek at all.

Stephen

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

I'm ready for some new Trek. heck even the fan made films are better than no Trek at all.

Stephen

Hate to say it, but the fan made stuff is BETTER than most of the crap Paramount has produced over the last decade...

[Bonk]

David Foster, a sci-fi writer/producer/consultant who last worked on “Battlestar Galactica,” has developed an elaborate new version of the series warhorse set within the series’ established timeframe.

That is awful news. While I realise that Star Trek is the original politically correct casting, this Foster character takes it to a whole new level of selling out. This is going to be awful. There have already been Trek Porn parodies made. I bet this one won't even be funny.

[Javora]

That is awful news. While I realise that Star Trek is the original politically correct casting, this Foster character takes it to a whole new level of selling out. This is going to be awful. There have already been Trek Porn parodies made. I bet this one won't even be funny.

I'm with Bonk on this one, in fact this makes me cringe.  I'd be happier with a reboot of ToS the this but then that is being shown in theaters already.     What they need is to hire the people who are writing the Burn Notice and Hawaii Five-O series, those are good shows.  Oh well, maybe we will get a new SFC game out of it.   

[Sirgod]

I'm ready for some new Trek. heck even the fan made films are better than no Trek at all.

Stephen

Hate to say it, but the fan made stuff is BETTER than most of the crap Paramount has produced over the last decade...

Your absolutely right. I say they bring back Stone Trek!

Stephen

[Nemesis]

I think that they should avoid a lot of the continuity problems by having a lost and crashed ship in a far distant part of the galaxy set out to build a new Federation there.  Much of their tech would not be reproducible so you could drop back to older less magical tech (Enterprise level or older) and all new races rather than messing with the existing ones.

[Sirgod]

That's not a bad idea. Reminds me somewhat of a series of books called New Earth set in the TNG universe. Good stuff from what I remember.

Stephen

[intermech]

Here are some ideas I would like to see:

- Earth-Romulan War for between Enterprise and TOS.
- Full-out time travel show. They have a future figured out for the next 400 years, use it!
- An anti-hero Trek, like Firefly but in the Trek continuity. I want to see exposure of a deep conspiracy in the Federaion.

If you are going to do something after Voyager, I say do something very far into the future, so far that it is unrecognizable to give it a fresh start.

[Strat]

BSG peeps killed Stargate and its movies. I hope they don't kill ST more than all the rest already have.   

[EagleEye]

Yea it will be interesting to see where they go with this one. Agreed, would be nice to get a new SFC game out of it.

[Fedman NCC-3758]

Dammit Jim !!  I'm a doctor, not a television producer !!

[Kreeargh]

REAL sad to think the remaker of the BSG is a do it agian for Trek , !   I will watch but if any epp has to do with real world crap im not a fan as ITS NOT REAL TO TREK . Im a bit sick of media thinking for us with TV. I guess we will see love or hate it.  Edit Post tng blows so already i am not a fan. Easy to tell the story of what they make up But not easy to show thoughts with a theme that someone has already written up. Trek whatever it should be called.

[Kreeargh]

Earth Romulan War sounds good, the lost era would be nice to, Ambassador classes, post Kitomer accords....
But I do like that idea about a lost ship, almost like Stargate Universe, reminds me of the novels Star Trek Titan with the off shoot of humans in another Galaxy, after a while their physical appearances changed, almost the same English language but not quite, and their conquest for domination kicked in, I think they called themselves the Khelvins....

Adam

Voyager was the Lost ship idea Hell dont remake that Please No Books No tos No tmp No tng No post tng and Hell no Pre anything! THat is up to the real world to figure out!   If its a remake REMAKE it  dont mix up the themes! Fraking looserwood themes these days.

[Fedman NCC-3758]

Since it will be post Voyager ...... perhaps it will deal with the post Shinzon era.  The Star Empire is in chaos.  The Tal Shiar vs. the Commanders loyal to the Empire.   Lots of potential there.  The making of alliances and the possible acts of treachery within the Star Empire as well as the Klingons.

[Strat]

The amazing thing to me about ST (esp TNG, but VOY and Enterprise also, and DS9 somewhat) was how it imagined the way people would be in the future. Dealing with challenges yes, but pursuing a higher way of being and growing the human condition in the process.

If BSG get a hold of trek it WILL be an ever raunchier form of Farscape/Lexx/Firefly and stuff. The only human condition will be drama, hatred of fellow man, and sex. (I guess just like the new ST movie) Which by definition is NOT what trek was originally about. It makes me angry because I like to imagine the future as a good place to be, not as a place were everyone is always unhappy and backstabbing each other.

[Javora]

I actually liked Farscape but whatever.  What I would like to see is a show based on Sulu's character commanding the Excelsior.  I'm sure we could even get John Cho to play the part of Sulu.  But then since these people want to include the Ferengi, why don't we create a show based on Clint Eastwood's "Josey Wales"??!?  I could see the movie quote "dying ain't much of a liven boy" getting some use in this type of thing.   

[Tulwar]

This new series sounds like Voyager, all over again.  I didn't even bother to watch that one after the first few episodes.

That time frame is too far ahead for today's audience.  A younger cast would make sense, since you probably couldn't tell a 70 year old from a college freshman.  How much could we have in common with people from the 25th Century?  How much real work could a person do, when the technology exists to make holographic doctors and such?  The time setting is just too far out.

I have a better idea.  Somebody mentioned "the lost era."  Personally, I'm sick of the sanitary Federation.  I'd make a series that takes place on a Klingon Ship, a tired old rust-bucket of a ship assigned to the Federation boarder during the Klingo-Romulan War.  The series premier would take place during the Kitimer Massacre.  There would be a constant running commentary on humanity, from an alien perspective.  It would be much like the WWF, except the cast would be much prettier.

[Nemesis]

- Earth-Romulan War for between Enterprise and TOS.

According to the dates set (before Enterprise was filmed) it should have taken place between the last two episodes of Enterprise.

[Kreeargh]

Strat, I completely agree with you... I guess people are attracted to this new Trek, sex, flashing lights, poor acting, hell, it's like a ball of poop to flies... I guess our old trek is gone, no remake, no re anything more like a total make over....

There's no continuity... They write these new scripts so anyone with no knowledge of what happened b4 can jump right in without any thought to it, no brains... No story... Just action, explosions, n of course, some intergalactic nookie...

But, if it's anything like the awful Star Trek Online stories, ships, episodes or whatever, I rather watch the fan made stuff, it's much more entertaining to me, n hopefully soon, Star Trek Excalibur and SFC4... Things to look fwd too

And if youre not going to remake Star Trek, hence remake not total make over then just don't call it Star Trek, have the balls to come up with a new sci fi show, be unique, be original, be creative, don't take history n try to shove an alternate timeline down the Trekkies throats, just be artistic and DO something....

THIS is where the public says screw media as they can make their own with some team work! Trek and other scifi media lives through those who wish it not those that release it and force it down! Be damn the greed its all for fun!  Tomarrow i will be shot  Greed wins these days.

[Tulwar]

YW Captain

I still think the Klingons are too 2d.  I think it would be cool if paranoia were a normal state for Klingons, and they all knew it.  The contrast between human talk and human history would be a constant concern for Klingons, and all they really respect about humans is the way we fight.  On that count, the intelligent Klingons are actually afraid of humans.

I figure a large portion of the Klingon crew would be made up of aliens pressed into service, even Romulan captives.  Of course, we'd have to put at least one human on board.  A constant subplot would be a human and a Romulan plotting an escape.

I've had this story running through my head a few years ago.  I forgot about it until I came across this thread.

[Norsehound]

BSG peeps killed Stargate and its movies. I hope they don't kill ST more than all the rest already have.   

But plenty of sci-fi fans on plenty of message boards would say anyone connected to NuBSG would instantly make the show great! Because apparently people like suffering, hatred, adultary, depression....

Y'know, I thought the 2009 movie was the definition of return to roots. Ditch the technobabble, eject the political correctness and moral-anvil throwing and give us a romp in space against aliens and evil powers. Redshirts die, Bones is sarcastic, Spock is logical, and Kirk is brave, bold, and bedding alien women. Star Trek for me was all about the adventure, not the message. Trek 11 was golden in this regard and brought back what I thought was great in Star Trek.

When I read the initial announcement and how these creators are proclaiming to themselves they are returning to roots- in light of how successful Trek 11 was- it made me cringe. In my view, their opinion of where the 'roots' are lay in TNG. This means political correctness, moral anvils, stale plots, pushing the limits of entertainment for moral messages... the same crap that rotted so badly it sunk Enterprise in the end and took the show off the air, almost for good. It's as if they ignored why Trek 11 had such a massive turnout and was popular with everybody.

I did not cry or shed a tear when B&B's monster finally sunk beneath the waves and Trek 11 danced on it's grave. I said good riddence. I was looking forward to a new and hip trek that did what I thought it should have been doing in the first place. Now it looks like the zombie of berman's trek is reaching out from the grave, risen by a cult of the undead who like this kind of naval-gazing crap.



Yes I'm over-reacting but the core thought is there. It seems to me they think they're doing fans a service by continuing the berman-era trek. I don't want to see this happen, because I want to be interested in new Star Trek productions and not bored or disappointed out of my mind.

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You know what I'd like to see? 2280 (TMP), klingon border. Starship is a Miranda class given to a swashbuckling captain whose already on the bad side of the local starbase commander. On the edge of Federation space and far from central authority, our captain often has to take matters into his own hands and enforce the law- not always to Federation regs- in the name of doing the right thing and getting things done. One of his adversaries is a suave and cunning Klingon Commander, who always minces words with our hero even at diplomatic callings.

On top of trying to prevent war, probe the unknown, and stop pirates and smugglers, his own starbase commander is formulating a plot in season 1 to get the captain killed in what would apparently be an accident. Season 1 would not end with the court-marshal of the base captain, but give him an opportunity to strike again later on.

Throughout the serial show would be heavy references to the TOS era of trek (Perhaps a Venus Drug ring, The first Hortas in starfleet, diplomatic crises with the Gorn...), and combined with horatio hornblower stories mixed with a dose of pragmatism. You'd have episodes paralleling events in the TMP movies (Our hero ship interfering an early attempt from Kruge to steal Genesis? Giving begrudging assistance to the disabled Klingon ships and protecting them from privateers during the Whale probe crisis? Ferrying the Romulan Ambassador to Earth for the Khitomer conference?)

It would be the last days of the frontier from TOS, but long before the yawning pajama-wearing days of TNG. It would be like the Cold War again, where the threat of war is always on the horizon but diplomatic clout is causing people to suffer.

If I knew I'd get a shot at it I'd go write the premise and the first story outline in a heartbeat to pitch to the suits. But because it wouldn't be full of flowers and political correctness messages (and no token minority characters), I wouldn't stand a chance. Not to mention I wouldn't have the "qualifications" that the series producers would be looking for. Ughf.

[marstone]

had an odd idea, how about a he said/she said style of show.  By that I mean, have two episodes made at a time.  one from the perspective of the say Feds, the other show is the same episode but from the other captains ship.

[Kreeargh]

had an odd idea, how about a he said/she said style of show.  By that I mean, have two episodes made at a time.  one from the perspective of the say Feds, the other show is the same episode but from the other captains ship.

Good thought but will never happen. Hell Better yet show Star trek from the Klingon or Romulan prespective MANY would love it Hell just that thought rules but i dont think it will ever happen. I am not talking about one captians perspective I think Empires.  Who is the Klink and Romulan Rulers = to kirk and picard mix . 

[FA Frey XC]

What needs to happen is:

1.) Paramount needs to get ME to do a movie for Trek.


2.) I've got a concept that will work, already has a baseline in current Trek AND...

3.) Won't fail.

Trust me ! Start your letter campaign NOW!

Regards,