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Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« on: August 06, 2011, 08:01:30 am »
While I was surfing the Starship Modlers Forum  Star trek Modelers  section  ran across this little beauty

http://www.starshipmodeler.net/talk/viewtopic.php?t=94323

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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2011, 10:39:13 am »
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2011, 11:17:52 am »
While I was surfing the Starship Modlers Forum  Star trek Modelers  section  ran across this little beauty
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2011, 01:52:25 pm »
While I was surfing the Starship Modlers Forum  Star trek Modelers  section  ran across this little beauty

http://www.starshipmodeler.net/talk/viewtopic.php?t=94323

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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2011, 05:13:13 pm »
I like it. Familiar design, yet a bit "throwback" and interesting. Would make a good TOS reserve cruiser.

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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2011, 05:39:20 pm »
Has certain similarities to what a Kelvin-prise would be like, hmm?
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2011, 09:55:53 pm »
It looks like it'd be smaller than a Constitution class, from how the windows and such are scaled.  I'd think it'd look a little less like a Connie, but that's just my take on the matter.

At one time, earlier Connies were supposed to only have 24 warp instead of 30, and maybe a few less weapons.  This looks like that interim vessel, as I remember it being described.

My only suggestion would be to make the warp nacelles look more naked, so you could see exposed warp field generator coils and such, to make it feel more like it is from the beginning of the federation/early years.  Just a thought.

Not too garish, just kinda like looking under the hood of a well detailed muscle car.

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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 08:21:48 am »
The Saucer and warp engines are modled from Rick Sternback's  Baton Rouge class  Cruiser  that was featured it the Space flight
chronology book

Here's a wiki entry that I found on the Baton Rouge.  for the Longest time all we had to go on was a top view of the baton Rouge
and the painted illustration later on Rick posted on the web a draft elevation view of the ship.

http://stexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/Baton_Rouge_class

Yes I definitely see the Confederation class as being an early cruiser design  :)

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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2011, 02:55:53 pm »
I Mudd's ships would be good for this..
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2011, 04:30:15 pm »
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2011, 01:42:33 pm »
Found my copy of the Helena.. still digging for the rest..
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2011, 04:46:41 pm »
On a whim, I did a quick Google search for Federation early years cruiser, and came across these webpages:

http://www.robinomicon.com/c/news.php?rowstart=55

While having nothing to do with this thread, that's some nice detailing on the engines on his USS Star League!

and

http://www.rhjunior.com/Forum/index.php?topic=8946.0

No idea on what the backstory for the USS Titan/Bismark class depicted there is, but an interesting design nonetheless.  The blockiness makes this feel 'earlier' to me, and less sleek.

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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2011, 08:05:50 pm »
On a whim, I did a quick Google search for Federation early years cruiser, and came across these webpages:

http://www.robinomicon.com/c/news.php?rowstart=55


That seems familiar ;)
you can find my TOS fleet here http://www.robinomicon.com/c2/downloads.php?cat_id=11 which is where that came from.
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 02:39:53 am »
Btw, assuming that I can get my hands on I Mudd's ships, this is a teaser for some of what I have in mind for the nacelles.  ;)
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 02:47:26 am »
I like those nacelles too, Atheorhaven!  Kinda embraces that 'muscle car' concept I mentioned.

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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2011, 02:55:02 am »
I like those nacelles too, Atheorhaven!  Kinda embraces that 'muscle car' concept I mentioned.

Exactly where I was going with it.. looking to just throw a little "glass" over the warp coils and that's it.  Looking to do something similar to what Gabe Koehner has going with his Enterprise.  I'm also doing the same thing on the sides so that carries into the inside strip, but you only get a teeny hint from this picture.

So.. this is where I'm hoping that someone has his ships and can PM me with a download link or five.. I've sent Mudd a PM, but so far he hasn't gotten back to me as of yet.  The ship won't be 100% accurate to the pictures presented, but it should be at least 90% using I Mudd's parts here, and it should be a pretty ship once completed.  :D

Btw, before anyone thinks I'm doing a JJ on this, I'm completely not or you'd see lens flares all over the meeting room once the ship will be complete.  ;)

(edit:  AHA!  Think I found my copies of some of his stuff.. have the Amarillo II, Mars, some of his Scrapyard, Baton Rouge, Republic, Daedalus, Federation, Larson, John Markus, Akula, and Saladin.. between all of them, I should have something to build with.  ;)

And there's the Baton Rouge saucer.. so I think I'm on my way..
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2011, 08:04:47 am »
So, Atheorhaven, how did you get a background in that mod viewer?

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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2011, 09:37:16 am »
So, Atheorhaven, how did you get a background in that mod viewer?

Simple.. tired of the blue all the time, so simply copy an image into Paint Shop Pro, capture my Mod Viewer image, Magic Lasso the blue, paste my image into the selected area.. and starry night with my ship.  :)

Not so tough, but it'd be nice to have a means to point Mod Viewer to an image or even change the colour to black (that one might be possible by decompressing the Mod Viewer binary and then doing a search and replace for the binary value of that blue with 00000000, most likely one at a time with an undo of the last change until the right one  is hit).
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2011, 09:59:37 am »
Btw, looking at the meshes last night, I think that doing the YCA will be as simple as a saucer replacement on I Mudd's Republic.  Will investigate later on today..
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Re: Fed YCA Confederation Class Cruiser
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2011, 03:17:33 pm »
Okay, playing around with it, I've gone for a saucer and nacelle replacement.  I didn't have to do the nacelle replacement, but sue me.. I think these look cooler.  ;)

So I'm using a Connie secondary hull and pylons, the Helena nacelles and finally the Baton Rouge saucer with Helena saucer textures on it.  Still WIP, but you can see the results as I went along last night.  (My home internet went down last night due to storms, so couldn't post posts until today.   Shots went from early fitting (earlier shots) to better texture matching.  The last two shots are comparison shots using the earlier screen shots, textures are currently sitting where they're at in the M Class world shot.  Getting closer, so the M-World shot was just a test shot to see how it'd look flying.  :D

Finally, compared it to the original model shots.. it's not bad.  Back of the neck is a bit different angle, and more of a hump at the top of the secondary hul.. but all in all, not too bad.  :)
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