Topic: What is the kobyashimaru to you ?

[Centurus]

My answer still stands, marriage is the Kobyashi Maru in my opinion.   

[intermech]

My answer still stands, marriage is the Kobyashi Maru in my opinion.   

Respectfully, marriage is not about you winning, but your spouse. That is why it is such an incredible commitment, an oath to another person to put their interests in front of your own unconditionally. It is less like the Kobyashimaru and more like the death of Spock. That is, afterall, how Spock beat the "real life" Kobyashimaru scenario in Wrath of Kahn, he put the interests of his friends ahead of his own. "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." Love always wins!

[atheorhaven]

you do realise that im getting married in less than 2 months?.....

Run!  Run Now!  >=)

Being with someone is great, but there's an extra security in marriage.  That being said, expect a collar on your testicles from her. 

[Starfox1701]

Marrage is picking your partner. Its about building a team not winning arguments

[marstone]

Marrage is picking your partner. Its about building a team not winning arguments

  um, oh, wait a minute.  You are serious about that aren't you???  no, I agree with you.  23 years with the same women, 20 years of marriage this year. 

Most important phrases to know (something that is similar, bounce around different ways of saying the same thing).

1. yes dear, anything you say.
2. You look beautiful dear.
3. It was all my fault.

[Kreeargh]

Marrage is picking your partner. Its about building a team not winning arguments

This thought truth BINGO .
Bolth NEED to learn eachother. The Marrige issue. I joined and i feel i am a winner.   Still this is not the subject, death how so was the issue. Who picks the END game and their thoughts how they choose it all. Not a hot and spicy issue more a how one views Trek and the Ideas they bring to us poeple.

[marstone]

now how you pick the END is a good look.  I did like the explanation in JJtrek.

It is a test to see how someone handles a situation you probably (or can't) win.  Will they panic and fold under the pressure.  Will they hold the line and do the best possible.  Crippling and/or taking a few ships with you is the best that could be done if you are good, or just lose your ship without causing any lasting damage to the other side if you do bad.

It is sort of like an extended and extreme version of what is done in the military where they put you in stressful situations to weed out those who can't handle them, before there are real lives on the line.

[Centurus]

..... I don't know if i should be happy about the upcoming event, or petrified

Be happy about being petrified?  Marriage is a good thing when it's with the right person, but still, my previous statements stand, Kobyashi Maru, cause you'll never win an argument, or be right, again.  :-)

[Kreeargh]

LOL someone lock this thread its gone WAY off topic  .  Congrats Fallen warrior 

[marstone]

LOL someone lock this thread its gone WAY off topic  .  Congrats Fallen warrior 

It isn't really off topic, you asked what is the kobyashimaru to you?  This is what it is to those.

[Kreeargh]

LOL someone lock this thread its gone WAY off topic  .  Congrats Fallen warrior 

It isn't really off topic, you asked what is the kobyashimaru to you?  This is what it is to those.

I AGREE   

[Centurus]

Kreeargh, let them have the Kobayashimaru and stay out of the neutral zone! Lmfao... 

Adam

 

[marstone]

My future wife has to say something. "While yes in some circumstances it could be seen as me having him by the balls i dont think you lot know how good hes got it. He can sleep in till 4pm if he wants to, gets coffee brought to him, hes nearly always right, if he wants a sandwich i make it, he can mod/game etc when he wants, all the housework is done with his help all i ask is he cooks but i bake, and everything else i'll leave you to imagine ;p" To which my reply is, "If I get to mod, play games when I want..... Apart from those eventful early nights... How in my right mind can I object" ;-)

you can't complain about that.  Keep her.  Treat her right. 

But watch out for the first two years.  Not sure why but in many peoples marriages the first two get them.  They make changes, the little things that didn't matter, come forward, becoming bigger.   If lucky things will just flow like normal (seems it should).   So hold a steady tiller and enjoy the rest of your life.

Biggest thing that i can see to watch out for is don't argue (much).  You can't win.  Even if you are right, you will lose in the end.  So talk.  Enjoy your early evenings, and keep her on a pedestal. (not a real high one, but high anough that you keep her special).  She has become your LOML (love on my life).  But also a SWMBO.  I'll let you figure that one out.

[Starfox1701]

yae after almost 6 years it was most definetly a beginning not an end

[marstone]

Thanks guys, She who must be obeyed is joyed that you approve

woo hoo you know that long one.  On an old tools board i am on, there are alot of SWMBO. 
But yours does sound good.  keeps us informed on how it goes.  I am at 20 years of marriage and still happy.

[Kreeargh]

  I am on my 7 year itch i still Love my wife!  THIS thread is dead !  MY thoughts was trek but i guess some want to be arses so im done with this thought.

[marstone]

I am on my 7 year itch i still Love my wife!  THIS thread is dead !  MY thoughts was trek but i guess some want to be arses so im done with this thought.

It gets better.

But on topic.  Kobyashimaru doesn't mean alot to me.  In the trek theme it is a test, the name of a ship that can't be saved.  It was originally put out to show that Captain Kirk was better then all the rest, then expanded on and explained more as time went on.  Basically a military psychological test for future captains to see how they handle a "lost" situation.

So I haven't voted, because to me it is more about the "test" not the ship it was named after.  If it had to come down to the ship, I would say a tos or JJ ship.  I haven't really loved any of the other series that much (including the movies).

[Kreeargh]

I am on my 7 year itch i still Love my wife!  THIS thread is dead !  MY thoughts was trek but i guess some want to be arses so im done with this thought.

It gets better.

But on topic.  Kobyashimaru doesn't mean alot to me.  In the trek theme it is a test, the name of a ship that can't be saved.  It was originally put out to show that Captain Kirk was better then all the rest, then expanded on and explained more as time went on.  Basically a military psychological test for future captains to see how they handle a "lost" situation.

So I haven't voted, because to me it is more about the "test" not the ship it was named after.  If it had to come down to the ship, I would say a tos or JJ ship.  I haven't really loved any of the other series that much (including the movies).

Life is always the Test as the Kobyashimaru . No ship is an issue its is thoes who serve on that ship is. Dont forget the idea and test It was a poll on the public thoughts. If this is now an issue faith for wife "I WILL DIE NOW FOR ANY REASON FOR MY WIFE !  Some faith is more than others screw all those that think their ways are more worthy!

[atheorhaven]

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Biggest thing that i can see to watch out for is don't argue (much).  You can't win.  Even if you are right, you will lose in the end.  So talk.  Enjoy your early evenings, and keep her on a pedestal. (not a real high one, but high anough that you keep her special).  She has become your LOML (love on my life).  But also a SWMBO.  I'll let you figure that one out.

Going to disagree simply with my own situation... I had more problems with *not* disagreeing and arguing than I do with arguing.  Was told that she didn't want to live with a doormat, and that I needed to stand up for myself if I was right because she wouldn't always be right and if I knew something that she didn't, I needed to be assertive on my point to make sure she got the right information.

It can be tricky, and I have to be able to prove my point, but as long as I'm not arguing just for arguments sake and not claiming things as an absolute, then that's what she wants.

But then my SWMBO is different that way anyways.  She wants to be with a man who defends himself and his point of view, not a doormat she can wipe her feet on and he'll take whatever she throws at him.  And then we both go off a cliff.

[marstone]

ah, don't argue, doesn't mean don't disagree.  It means you don't get in a yelling match with your ego's on the line.  You will say things that should not be said, that have nothing to do with what you are trying to discuss.  Don't discuss important things while you are mad, it is not good for anyone.

discussing your disagreements is good.  It helps work out a path for everyone to go down together.  But getting into a yelling match, arguing.  Just gets people mad and then they don't listen.  (how can you listen when you are both yelling at each other?)  also in that state what little you do hear you will take personally instead of taking it as criticism of your stance on the topic.

so my statement is when you disagree, discuss it.  Don't make it personal and don't take it personal.

In my family, my wife runs things.  Reason is I work to much, not around as much as I should be and when I am half of that time I am asleep (I work nights for my main job).  Back when I worked 15 hour days, I just was at home long anough to eat, sleep, shower and back out the door.  Having one parent be in charge kept things stable for the kids.  We didn't have time to argue either, the little time we had, was spent together. .