Topic: hows the weather (big pic)

[Mackie]

take a pic from outside the window and post? 

weve been constantly getting -40'f~ during nighttime for more than a week now and its most likely not going to get any warmer anytime soon.
luckily the days arent that cold..

http://stupidfusion.com/kuvia/luntaperkele.jpg

[FoaS_XC]

lols @ filename.

Luckily, looks like winter is finally on the way out here. Thank god.

[Bonk]

-40°F? You must be north of 60°?

I only understand three temperatures in Farenheight:
1) -40°F ~= -40°C (scales cross here)
2) 32°F = 0°C = freezing point of water
3) 212°F = 100°C = boiling point of water

Luckily, you have hit on one of the values that I can understand. That is pretty darn cold.

Our lowest daytime high here has been -18°C. (-27°C with windchill). Nighttime lows don't count. But only for a day or two at a time. I actually miss the old winters where it would remain below -20°C for weeks at a time. Peak operating conditions for me. I can barely survive the summers anymore. I'm sure one of them will be the death of me. The big drag is that these warm winters bring so much snow with each snowfall, though it does not persist like it did in the cold years. No, now it just melts, and freezes, melts and freezes...  Ugh. A shoveling nightmare.

I got a chuckle out of a program I saw recently that described Canadian military cold performance research. They were only good to about seven minutes at -27°C.    Oh yes, they are all Olympic class long distance runners, but pretty darn wimpy when it comes to cold. Shameful.

Here's my pic attached. There are two cars under that snow in front of the house. 

[Mackie]

-40°F? You must be north of 60°?

I only understand three temperatures in Farenheight:
1) -40°F ~= -40°C (scales cross here)
2) 32°F = 0°C = freezing point of water
3) 212°F = 100°C = boiling point of water

Luckily, you have hit on one of the values that I can understand. That is pretty darn cold.

Our lowest daytime high here has been -18°C. (-27°C with windchill). Nighttime lows don't count. But only for a day or two at a time. I actually miss the old winters where it would remain below -20°C for weeks at a time. Peak operating conditions for me. I can barely survive the summers anymore. I'm sure one of them will be the death of me. The big drag is that these warm winters bring so much snow with each snowfall, though it does not persist like it did in the cold years. No, now it just melts, and freezes, melts and freezes...  Ugh. A shoveling nightmare.

I got a chuckle out of a program I saw recently that described Canadian military cold performance research. They were only good to about seven minutes at -27°C.    Oh yes, they are all Olympic class long distance runners, but pretty darn wimpy when it comes to cold. Shameful.

Here's my pic attached. There are two cars under that snow in front of the house. 

yeah, 62° to be exact... just inside the sub-arctic if im not terribly mistaken ( northeastern finland) 
I mostly use celsius but I figured that most on this board are fahrenheit users so why bother
We never add or use windchill effect in temperature measurement so I wouldnt know how much that would add practicality wise to how cold it really feels...
the daylight still lasts a very short while still at this time of the year (despite polar night being over) around here so it wouldnt make much sense to use that as the point of measurement of how cold it is 

but yeah this is a little bit too chilly for comfort cause I cant keep the windows open for too long without stuff starting to freeze inside...

dragging mines and other explosive ordinance during training manouvers through goddamn feets of snow at these temps do suck pretty damn hard; been there done that, 30km/18mile trip through a forest and more than once.

[Bonk]

yeah, 62° to be exact... just inside the sub-arctic if im not terribly mistaken ( northeastern finland) 

Aha, that would explain it. (I think I knew that but forgot.) Now that I think about it, a daytime high does not make much sense when they day is only 4 hours long or less...

I bet you guys don't use windchill as it is humidity dependent, which at -40 I expect is 0%, thus, no significant windchill. I would love that environment, except for the dryness.

How are the blackflies in the summer over there? That is always the thing that makes reconsider the idea of moving north for good over here.

I mostly use celsius but I figured that most on this board are fahrenheit users so why bother

We shall pound the metric system into them, slowly but surely. Resistance is futile! 

I mean come on now, how many different gallons are there? What's a cubit again?

But, I cannot claim SI purity... pounds and acres do make more sense to me than kilograms and hectares in common contexts. But Fahrenheit just makes no sense at all, what is it related to? It seems completely arbitrary to me.

[Mackie]

yeah, 62° to be exact... just inside the sub-arctic if im not terribly mistaken ( northeastern finland) 

Aha, that would explain it. (I think I knew that but forgot.) Now that I think about it, a daytime high does not make much sense when they day is only 4 hours long or less...

I bet you guys don't use windchill as it is humidity dependent, which at -40 I expect is 0%, thus, no significant windchill. I would love that environment, except for the dryness.

How are the blackflies in the summer over there? That is always the thing that makes reconsider the idea of moving north for good over here.

I guess that depends, im not really aware of blackflies being too big of nuisance least here in northeast/east (dunno about rest of finland) but mosquitos are every-friggin-where all summer long :S
later on in the summer/fall youd prolly get acquainted rather well with swarms of deer flies if youd need to work in the woods...

as for average humidity; i went digging around and found this:
Jan   Feb   Mar   Apr   May   Jun   Jul   Aug   Sep   Oct   Nov   Dec   Aver
80.0   78.0   71.0   69.0   66.0   66.0   63.0   61.0   67.0   72.0   77.0   79.0   70.75

[Bonk]

Mosquitos. Ugh. Just as bad as blackflies. Might be a price worth paying for peace and temperature comfort though. I guess at a certain point the heat down here in summer will be worse than the flies up north. And really, it is only bad for the first few days of it, after your histamine response settles down it is not really that bad, just annoying and kinda gross.

The humidity stats are interesting. The seasonal inverse of here. Makes sense now that I think of the coastal environment. It would lead me to conclude you are not familiar with windchill because it would just be too darn depressing! Kinda like super-cold vs ultra-cold. It's just darn cold! 

Actually, I think they quote it here to warn of freezing exposed flesh. Whereas there, that's kinda given. (That seven minutes number - which included windchill... I'm good to at least 14 minutes with no gloves or mitts at <-20, but it does damage certain spots where the skin is thin, and knuckles can crack and bleed)

[Mackie]

Mosquitos. Ugh. Just as bad as blackflies. Might be a price worth paying for peace and temperature comfort though. I guess at a certain point the heat down here in summer will be worse than the flies up north. And really, it is only bad for the first few days of it, after your histamine response settles down it is not really that bad, just annoying and kinda gross.

The humidity stats are interesting. The seasonal inverse of here. Makes sense now that I think of the coastal environment. It would lead me to conclude you are not familiar with windchill because it would just be too darn depressing! Kinda like super-cold vs ultra-cold. It's just darn cold! 

True enough im not very familiar with it but im still saying; ive never heard anyone ever use it anywhere here when speaking of the temperature and/or weather :p
I checked out a couple of forecast websites; I found one with a mention of the windchill but it was just a footnote.

our summers tend to be rather short (2-3months) but theyre hot as hell (least imho). last summer we had +30/35'c +85/95'f almost for teh entire duration of it, even in the north.
I dont even want to think of how hot the cities and towns got, inside my apartment it got as hot as  55'c / 130'f at one point... all windows facing sun, obviously no airconditioning because we generally dont need airconditioning.....

edit: yeah, even the kids here know how to gear up before going outside when its cold. well, most of them do, the stupid ones get bad frostbites once, twice or a few times and then they too remember to gear up 

[Brush Wolf]

Duluth International Airport
Lat: 46.84   Lon: -92.18   Elev: 1424
Last Update on Feb 20, 1:55 pm CST

Heavy Snow Blowing Snow Freezing Fog and Breezy

18 °F
(-8 °C)    
Humidity:    84 %
Wind Speed:    E 23 G 37 MPH
Barometer:    30.00" (1018.8 mb)
Dewpoint:    14 °F (-10 °C)
Wind Chill:    1 °F (-17 °C)
Visibility:    0.25 mi.

This Afternoon: Snow likely. Cloudy, with a high near 27. Windy, with a east wind around 35 mph, with gusts as high as 50 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Tonight: Snow likely and areas of blowing snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 16. Windy, with a east wind between 25 and 35 mph, with gusts as high as 50 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

What ice we had on the Lake Superior was pushed out into the lake a few days ago so the big lake is really churning today.

[Khalee1]

72 here in okc ok but back down to the 40's and 50's for a couple of days next week. We only have two seasons winter and summer here don't really have  fall or spring it's either cold or hot.

[Brush Wolf]

72 here in okc ok but back down to the 40's and 50's for a couple of days next week. We only have two seasons winter and summer here don't really have  fall or spring it's either cold or hot.

I know that well, I was stationed at Altus.

[Capt. Mike]

72 here in okc ok but back down to the 40's and 50's for a couple of days next week. We only have two seasons winter and summer here don't really have  fall or spring it's either cold or hot.

I know that well, I was stationed at Altus.

My condolances..I've known others stationed there, and that was in the '70's..the nearest McDonalds was hours away then..but I managed to avoid that particular part of the U.S. over 21 years.  Now I'm in Omaha, and have been for over 17 years...but retirement is nice
Temperature wise..normal, cold..no exceptional temps, no exceptional snowfall (O.K., I grew up near Buffalo NY...less than three feet (a meter to Bonk) means nothing to a 15 HP snow blower)

Mike

[Brush Wolf]

72 here in okc ok but back down to the 40's and 50's for a couple of days next week. We only have two seasons winter and summer here don't really have  fall or spring it's either cold or hot.

I know that well, I was stationed at Altus.

My condolances..I've known others stationed there, and that was in the '70's..the nearest McDonalds was hours away then..but I managed to avoid that particular part of the U.S. over 21 years.  Now I'm in Omaha, and have been for over 17 years...but retirement is nice
Temperature wise..normal, cold..no exceptional temps, no exceptional snowfall (O.K., I grew up near Buffalo NY...less than three feet (a meter to Bonk) means nothing to a 15 HP snow blower)

Mike

I find it easier to deal with -20F here in Minnesota than +20F down in Oklahoma. I suppose a large part of that is the wind coming out of the north with nothing between yourself and the Arctic Circle other than the barbed wire fences in Kansas.

[Khalee1]

72 here in okc ok but back down to the 40's and 50's for a couple of days next week. We only have two seasons winter and summer here don't really have  fall or spring it's either cold or hot.

I know that well, I was stationed at Altus.

My condolances..I've known others stationed there, and that was in the '70's..the nearest McDonalds was hours away then..but I managed to avoid that particular part of the U.S. over 21 years.  Now I'm in Omaha, and have been for over 17 years...but retirement is nice
Temperature wise..normal, cold..no exceptional temps, no exceptional snowfall (O.K., I grew up near Buffalo NY...less than three feet (a meter to Bonk) means nothing to a 15 HP snow blower)

Mike

I find it easier to deal with -20F here in Minnesota than +20F down in Oklahoma. I suppose a large part of that is the wind coming out of the north with nothing between yourself and the Arctic Circle other than the barbed wire fences in Kansas.

Well then you wouldnt like it today only 39 right now with 22mph wind speed out of the north.

[Javora]

We had about two inches of ice and about five inches of snow on top of that where we are.  The power went out early Sunday morning is expected to be out until Saturday.  Needless to say the family and I are staying at my sisters house until then.  We took the four wheel drive to our house to pick some things up and the town looked like a war zone.  Which to say is normal for that town after a storm.  lol.

[Bonk]

I went out to assess the situation today. I opened the back door and I got this (attached). It got worse from there. *sigh* I got out to the road, took a look, turned around and tromped right back in. (It was too cold for the camera/batteries to work outside) I'm sore just thinking about moving all this snow. 

[knightstorm]

hmm, the snow's actually melted here and we're having fairly decent weather now.

[Brush Wolf]

two degrees (-17 for those that don't do proper measurements) here today so no melting in sight.