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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2011, 03:28:33 pm »
i see. :)  you`re right. the more use it has the better. :)
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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2011, 03:37:55 pm »
Dogfighter, what polycount range do you normally work in?
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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2011, 03:56:15 pm »
well most of my feds are around 800 polygons.  the enterprise redesign in this threat has 729. my tmp connie has 720, constellation has 1344. excelsior is 973. oberth has 420. my alien shis have less. klingion bop has 522 , ktinga has 445. all other models are between 250 and 1000.

so im in the 400 to 1400 region.
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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2011, 03:35:24 pm »
Well, here is my 2 pennies or cents or franks or whatever.

   Huge tallent, at the low poly, meshes and textures look great.  :o

 Now throw in a few more (not too much) and come into 2011  :)

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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2011, 02:01:38 am »
Being something of a beginner in terms of modeling (still, anyway :\) I like the idea of a low-poly competition. I have no delusions I'll win anything but I like the challenge.

I would say for a subject, one could go with everyone's favorite Trek Spaceship out of them all: the 1701-A. It's well-recognized, popular, and subject to interpretation when realizing it. Sure it's a Fed and Feds (especially the connie) are overdone, but nothing says SFC like the Refit Enterprise. That's why we're all here, isn't it?

On the Topic... Not sure if I'm a fan of the things around the font ends of the nacelles or the color choices, but the general shape seems interesting. Like the Shuttlebay.

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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2011, 04:36:02 am »
Well, here is my 2 pennies or cents or franks or whatever.

   Huge tallent, at the low poly, meshes and textures look great.  :o

 Now throw in a few more (not too much) and come into 2011  :)

You will be a hit  8)

thanx. glad you like the model. my ships were intended for sfc1 and 2 and they were intended to go along some stock models. so i didnt beef the up when it comes to polygons.
the redesign wasn t intended to be so lowpoly but i made it out of my connie refit. so it is very lp as well.

im considering redoing it with twice the polygons. i wonder how much detail this might be worth.

Being something of a beginner in terms of modeling (still, anyway :\) I like the idea of a low-poly competition. I have no delusions I'll win anything but I like the challenge.

I would say for a subject, one could go with everyone's favorite Trek Spaceship out of them all: the 1701-A. It's well-recognized, popular, and subject to interpretation when realizing it. Sure it's a Fed and Feds (especially the connie) are overdone, but nothing says SFC like the Refit Enterprise. That's why we're all here, isn't it?


sure the connie refit is a good ship for such a competition. and a good ship to learn how to model too.
but still i think some alien ships deserve a little upgrade as well.
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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2011, 01:32:50 am »
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but still i think some alien ships deserve a little upgrade as well.


When you say upgrade, do are you implying redesigning the base ship as well as modeling it low-poly?

I've done my own redesign of the TNG warbird, for example. Would you recommend it as a subject for the low-poly modeling contest, then?

I ask because I would imagine accuracy to the model we're re-creating might be a factor in the judging. I would hope not, since I see it as an impediment to making a good-looking low-poly model (at least in the extreme), but something to think about.

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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2011, 01:52:01 am »
I would say that it depends on your motive, if you are trying to accurately reproduce a ship, then yes, accuracy counts. If you are trying to do something original, then originality counts instead of accuracy.

Btw: The other mods are pretty excited with the idea of a challenge, I'm just waiting to see if/how it can be incorporated into our latest announcement :)
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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2011, 04:00:40 am »
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I would say that it depends on your motive, if you are trying to accurately reproduce a ship, then yes, accuracy counts. If you are trying to do something original, then originality counts instead of accuracy.

So if I, say, declared the low-poly model I was making was the marker buoy from "The Corbomite Maneuver" would I be able to win that category because it is the most accurate modeling job of the subject material in question? :P

I think accuracy should be a secondary/tertiary criteria for modeling. Just because you don't reproduce every panel line (or for example, the detail on the greebles for the Miranda's sensor arrays are off... or the lighting isn't perfectly represented), doesn't mean your model should be disqualified or ruled out, even if it looks better polished.

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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2011, 06:01:25 am »
what i meant with upgrading alien ships i meant that some stock models never received a replacement model. we have huge amounts of feds, large amounts of klings, roms are not quite a large in nubers. when it comes to hydrans, lyrans gorn and mirak and isc, there is only a very limited number of models available.

accuracy should count when it comes to basic shape and textures. however how much details you put into it is up to you. you consider a certain detain unnessesary, then dont put it on your ship. you decide.
but having at least tha major details on the model certainly helps to make it look good.
judging is up to the judges.
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Re: Because i never liked the jj abrams enterprise....
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2011, 10:12:35 pm »
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Just because you don't reproduce every panel line

Thats kinda the point of low poly modeling. You can't reproduce every panel line in the model; most of the detail must be in the texture. If you cant make great texture then you can't be an effective low poly modeler making copies of ships. Original models have the advatage the the low poly nature of the midel can be incorperated into the design.