Topic: What is the goal in SFCOP?

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

I second the non-advanced battles with Knight. The advanced-era matches get so old quickly, and the imbalance doesn't help (there are only a few ships I would fly). Unfortunately, most of the regular players (although there are exceptions, at least a few months ago) like to play *only* advanced matches.

It is hilarious to hear why they don't like playing more traditional matches. I remember one player complaining that the ships in the classic heavy cruiser match (F-CA, K-D7, etc.) aren't "real ships!" You can imagine what they thought of the 80 bpv matches  .

[ShadowDiver]

Well after 5 straight nights on GSA...I got to tell ya somthing...I'm done, I'm uninstalling GSA and I'm never going back...
Spider, Ghost, Chazzey...can eat doo and I don't care, they complain too much, pout and cry.......
Des, Spock, some chick lisa....whatever....there never around to play anyway...

like I said, they never tell you the rules, class of ship, teams....nothing... I take a C7...game starts....there in XCA's, then they laugh at you for (being dumb)....
I take a Dred....all of a sudden it 3 vs 1, everyone gangs up on the new guy....Boom dead....they set BVP like 400 but don't tell you the rules, 1 ship/2 ship...fighters/no fighters.....
Bottom line......like I said in my other post......there is no scaling, no fairness....and they don't care...heck they won't even care if I never show up again....that's the type of people they are...
What was it I said..(I would like to be able to have a battle with and equal opponent, kill for kill so to speak... I really don't look forward to going online and having a battle with someone that has (oh 1000+ kills), every new patch and every new update to my 0-kills, that's kinda cruel and harsh.
It will eventually chase all the newcomers off and leave nothing but a handful of old farts who have fought each other so much, that now they don't bother to play, they just sit around and chat and complain about how there's no new players and how this game is going nowhere and
is dead. sort of a self serving purgatory..

I might suck at online games...but I got 4 SFB GenCon awards and I know I won't be beat on the board
They have nothing..

[knightstorm]

Well to be fair, the general assumption is that unless a ship is explicitly forbidden its fair game.  Also, advanced ships are only available if the room host sets the era to advanced.  That should be your warning.  Finally, did you remember to set yourself to the proper team in the in game staging area (the letters next to your name)?  Granted, they knew that you are new, and they probably should have taken time to explain this to you.  I hope you won't let that bad experience sour you on the game.

[ShadowDiver]

Well Knight,

The key word is ASSUMPTION following that train of logic, all these ship list's are for nothing..cause everyone taking XCA, XCF and XCB...all the other ships sux...so why have them...3 badarse ships for what 9 races......
and yes...I do check the team box...but my wingman never talks, never says who to go after...nothing...no teamwork..

No I love this game....no problem there I'll just play the AI, you do know you can make a very hard AI game, like 1xC9 and 2xC7 vs 1x rom Condor on admiral setting....your the rom.....tough, very very tough. lol

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

I hear you about all of this Advanced-era BS and the regulars who only like playing the same match over and over again. But GSA isn't dead (yet). It just takes a long time to actually get a good game. There are a few players who like the standard game with smaller ships/earlier eras, and playing a good 1v1 with one of these players is great. I'm going to try to be on next week, so maybe we could get a 2v2 going with one of this players (would you be interested Knight?).

Some of the players you mention act like aces but really are not. For example, one pilot in particular loves flying the Rommie XCB, but if you fly a Klink XCA and play the patient Saber Dance, you will never lose (whoops, I just read your post about a certain pilot and a D7W -- nice job).

[knightstorm]

Yeah I'm up for it, are you ready for some CRABBAGE!!

[GotAFarmYet?]

you mean OP is like an extension for EAW? if yes.. well that would explain a lot.
But if the phasers were not coded for SFC 1 than why arent the models working? other than the extension used in OP (*.bmp) and (*.pcx) used in SFC1.. aren't these compatible?


PS.. please say why do you think the phaser is good.. maybe there are things i do not know about them.
i think G2 is good because i like playing with hydran weapons a lot and since i played the first time with ph G, i knew it was great. G2s are extended to 50.000 km range and they make quite some damage.

The later models SFC 2 and up use light maps that extra coding in the mod file makes them incompatiable with SFC 1. Same reason SFC 2 ships don't work in SFC 3, and why SFC 3 ships have issues in SFC 2 versions. textures in PCX will work in SFC 1 and 2 the difference is in the color the textures can dispaly pcx is a 8-bit color bmp goes to 24-bit color, think of it as getting more shades of gray. True be told the game really only shows 8-bit colors, but the textures can be made as pcx or bmp. The textures work in all three versions, the game engine can use either formate

[ShadowDiver]

just e-mail me when you guys want to play..I'll show...

[Corbomite]

Well after 5 straight nights on GSA...I got to tell ya somthing...I'm done, I'm uninstalling GSA and I'm never going back...
Spider, Ghost, Chazzey...can eat doo and I don't care, they complain too much, pout and cry.......
Des, Spock, some chick lisa....whatever....there never around to play anyway...

like I said, they never tell you the rules, class of ship, teams....nothing... I take a C7...game starts....there in XCA's, then they laugh at you for (being dumb)....
I take a Dred....all of a sudden it 3 vs 1, everyone gangs up on the new guy....Boom dead....they set BVP like 400 but don't tell you the rules, 1 ship/2 ship...fighters/no fighters.....
Bottom line......like I said in my other post......there is no scaling, no fairness....and they don't care...heck they won't even care if I never show up again....that's the type of people they are...
What was it I said..(I would like to be able to have a battle with and equal opponent, kill for kill so to speak... I really don't look forward to going online and having a battle with someone that has (oh 1000+ kills), every new patch and every new update to my 0-kills, that's kinda cruel and harsh.
It will eventually chase all the newcomers off and leave nothing but a handful of old farts who have fought each other so much, that now they don't bother to play, they just sit around and chat and complain about how there's no new players and how this game is going nowhere and
is dead. sort of a self serving purgatory..

I might suck at online games...but I got 4 SFB GenCon awards and I know I won't be beat on the board
They have nothing..

Those guys are still playing? They have been playing 400 ADV for years now and refuse to play anything else. The last time I played with them I took a R-PRA and tons of screws and was the last one standing. They wouldn't play with me after that...

[FoaS_XC]

Lol @ imagining that battle.

YOu know, I'm actually starting to miss OP some. Maybe its time I find that CD of mine....