Topic: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1

[762_XC]

Crimmy would just start flying Beastriders.

[KBF-Crim]

Crimmy would just start flying Beastriders.

[Age]

Crim stick to your D5W.

What are these ships like?

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Federation WFF Terran Warp-Refitted Frigate
Federation WNF Andorian Warp-Refitted Frigate
Federation WRF Rigellian Warp-Refitted Frigate
Federation WRL Rigellian Warp-Refitted Light Cruiser
Federation WSR Warp-Refitted Survey Cruiser


[FireSoul]

Not worth having in OP+: can't do limited range tractors, transporters, etc. There's a question of shiplist space as well.

Crim stick to your D5W.

What are these ships like?

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Federation WFF Terran Warp-Refitted Frigate
Federation WNF Andorian Warp-Refitted Frigate
Federation WRF Rigellian Warp-Refitted Frigate
Federation WRL Rigellian Warp-Refitted Light Cruiser
Federation WSR Warp-Refitted Survey Cruiser


[Czar Mohab]

Not worth having in OP+: can't do limited range tractors, transporters, etc. There's a question of shiplist space as well.

For ship list space, I got nothin.
[NERD MODE]
For your tractors & transporters comment, set these ship's first year avail. date to SFC equivalent of Y140, or same as F-CL; see YG7.65 and YG8.14; see also YR2.2 (F-WCL) for precedence.

However, please note that I'm NOT saying "Firesoul please add these" but I am saying "You could if you wanted to due to SFC's early years being a bit later than SFB's early years".

Also, see also Module R8: section R1.0 paragraph 5, "National Guard Ships"; R2.116, R2.117, R2.118, R2.119 and R2.120.
[/NERD MODE]

[FireSoul]

Not worth having in OP+: can't do limited range tractors, transporters, etc. There's a question of shiplist space as well.

For ship list space, I got nothin.
[NERD MODE]
For your tractors & transporters comment, set these ship's first year avail. date to SFC equivalent of Y140, or same as F-CL; see YG7.65 and YG8.14; see also YR2.2 (F-WCL) for precedence.

However, please note that I'm NOT saying "Firesoul please add these" but I am saying "You could if you wanted to due to SFC's early years being a bit later than SFB's early years".

Also, see also Module R8: section R1.0 paragraph 5, "National Guard Ships"; R2.116, R2.117, R2.118, R2.119 and R2.120.
[/NERD MODE]

I understand. Note that I actually do have National Guard ships since OP+ 4.0: these appeared in General War years and beyond as colony defense ships.
They appear rarely (probably would need a special mission for them, etc) and are slow as heck.

[Age]

Not worth having in OP+: can't do limited range tractors, transporters, etc. There's a question of shiplist space as well.

Crim stick to your D5W.

What are these ships like?

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Federation WFF Terran Warp-Refitted Frigate
Federation WNF Andorian Warp-Refitted Frigate
Federation WRF Rigellian Warp-Refitted Frigate
Federation WRL Rigellian Warp-Refitted Light Cruiser
Federation WSR Warp-Refitted Survey Cruiser


What does it actually mean though?

[FoaS_XC]

I tend to think of it like this: different era's are represented by different "letters". In order from earliest to latest: W = Warp-Refit, where ships have been refitted from tactical sublight drives to have tactical warp engines. Y = Pre-Normal era - first ships built from the keel out as warp-tactical-capable ships. The normal era isn't represented as a letter. X = well, its the X-era. There are exceptions to this, like the Roms had tactical sublight ships a good deal longer than other empires did. For the feds, the various member races had seperate ships for the W-era, it wasn't until the Y era that they had a unified fleet. The National Guard ships are Y-era ships refitted to be more modern, but they still pale in comparison to proper modern ships.

[FireSoul]

Ok folks. This is it!
Release Candidate 1.  If no one can find flaws, this will become the installer and shiplist. I'll give it a week or 2 for people to play with it.
Note: I *DEPEND* on you to tell me if I did something wrong.. something that I missed.


Details:
http://pet.dhs.org/mediawiki/index.php/OP%2B_Installer_Download#OP.2B_4.1_RC_1

Installer download:
http://klingon.pet.dhs.org/OP_plusrefit/opplus_41_models_20110501131722.exe


Important: (to you?)
It includes an 'Andros!' multiplayer mission. It is coop-ace like, but there's no customizer. The team you select decides the difficulty of the game! The details are in the text of the mission.

[ShadowDiver]

Firesoul.......

THANK YOU!!!!!


 

[FoaS_XC]

SWEET!

[FireSoul]

It's been a couple of days. Any news/feedback?

--FS

PS: I've been setting up a wiki for the OP+ documentation. It'll take a bit of time to get it all together, but it'll look way better than the flatfile site that I had before.

[FoaS_XC]

I, myself, haven't had much of a chance to play with it, yet. Don't worry, I intend on picking it apart

[FireSoul]

Just admiring the changes...some big...some small.....like the wildfire CL BR2..it went from 120 to 160? that's a big jump, played a game last night everyone took the BR2, I could not ...(out of BVP range....had my arse handed to me..)

Disclaimer: the pirates have all be RECREATED. If you had a favourite.. my Apologies! It's gone.

• I took the pirate ships Taldren had created and tossed them into the trash bin.
• I entered, from SFB SSDs, all the base pirate ships I want to use.
• I coded the various allowed weapon costs and arcs.
• I then spent weeks creating tons and tons of replacement pirate ships, all with ACCURATE BPV, arcs and weapons for their region of space!

The pirates are now accurate, complete and are far closer to accurate SFB rules. The majority of them are better than they used to be.

[ShadowDiver]

That's great.....

Like I said, I was admiring the changes so far.....no complaint's yet, no faults yet...

[FireSoul]

That's great.....

Like I said, I was admiring the changes so far.....no complaint's yet, no faults yet...

FYI:
I transfered the related documentation regarding the pirate templating to the new wiki:
  http://klingon.pet.dhs.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=OP%2B:_Orion_Pirate_template_and_generation_of_ships

note: there will more much more documentation to add to this site..

[ShadowDiver]

Great!

with your permission may I pass this around GR?

[FireSoul]

Great!

with your permission may I pass this around GR?

.. Please wait before distribution: this is just a release candidate.

[FireSoul]

Id like to get the rehardpointed planet meshes thrown in too to correct the oldest and laziest bug out there if we can do that, FS. And glad to see u messing with SFC.

Hey Dizzy!

FYI: I never got these from you. They never made it into OP+.

-- FS

[FireSoul]

New wiki's up. TONS of crap. Took a while to put it all together too.
http://klingon.pet.dhs.org/

You will find my SFB->SFC conversion rules, tools, downloads, etc. It's my SFC site, updated.

Also, Big thanks for my wife for helping me make the banners. I rendered 'em, she photoshopped to glory.


-- FS