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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #140 on: January 02, 2011, 04:39:32 am »
Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on January 01, 2011, 10:19:04 am
The forge is at 2288. Reset of you need to but otherwise a reset is not due yet. Thanks.

Cool, I don't usually reset till it runs through to 2303 or later. I'll let it run through as usual, then if OP+ 4.1 is ready at that time - wheeeeeeee!  :)
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #141 on: January 02, 2011, 03:37:55 pm »
Don't wait for me: I have R12 to do .. and I'm taking a break from the "smithing" by playing with it.. which lead to me recoding some missions to support such lists better.

.. and then there's the Andro monsters to figure out. I had someone who said he'd look into it, but I think I'll take that over and take care of it.

It'll take a while. ;)
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #142 on: January 13, 2011, 09:51:59 pm »
Heh...can I have a D77 yet?..

I've only been asking for like a decade... ;D

Perhaps a couple more of the kink heavy carriers?

Good to see you back FS...hope to fly your wing again...
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #143 on: January 13, 2011, 10:04:55 pm »
What is a D-77?

Edit: Wait! A K-D7 with 2x warp and 8 dizzies? bazmeg!
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #144 on: January 13, 2011, 10:31:05 pm »
Well I modded up one close as I could once...they aint all that....but they are pretty cool...

Power hungry beast it is....flies like a brick... :coolsmiley:
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #145 on: January 13, 2011, 11:31:47 pm »
How is it power hungry? the four extra dizzies take 16 power to overload, has the same move cost, everything. Am I missing something?
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #146 on: January 14, 2011, 03:06:20 am »
Quote from: FoaS_XC on January 13, 2011, 11:31:47 pm
How is it power hungry? the four extra dizzies take 16 power to overload, has the same move cost, everything. Am I missing something?

Yea. His sarcasm.  :crazy2:
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #147 on: January 14, 2011, 09:03:58 am »
Doh!
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #148 on: January 14, 2011, 03:38:53 pm »
I'll put in my two cent's

Firesoul....I have not been playing that long on multiplayer and I am real new to this site..
But I have to tell you.....some of this is AMAZING....I loaded your 4.1 and WOW......from what I have seen so far (which is very little) I like what you have done...the Hydran D7X is real cool as are a few others. my main question is...is it acceptable to change some firing arcs if the preset ones just don't work for you? or how about swapping weapons like... removing 2 fusions and putting in 2 hellbores..
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #149 on: January 14, 2011, 08:56:13 pm »
Hydran D7 hope work is going fine FS?
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #150 on: January 15, 2011, 05:16:11 pm »
Quote from: ShadowDiver on January 14, 2011, 03:38:53 pm
I'll put in my two cent's

Firesoul....I have not been playing that long on multiplayer and I am real new to this site..
But I have to tell you.....some of this is AMAZING....I loaded your 4.1 and WOW......from what I have seen so far (which is very little) I like what you have done...the Hydran D7X is real cool as are a few others. my main question is...is it acceptable to change some firing arcs if the preset ones just don't work for you? or how about swapping weapons like... removing 2 fusions and putting in 2 hellbores..

You can mod your copy of the shiplist all you want. ;)
However, note that I've modified mine based on SFB, the SFC source materials, and don't usually come up with features or changes like that.

Anyway. I am glad you like it.
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #151 on: January 15, 2011, 05:17:25 pm »
Quote from: Age on January 14, 2011, 08:56:13 pm
Hydran D7 hope work is going fine FS?

huh?

I don't quite follow. I didn't touch the D7H except to add a partial X refit version. H-D7Hx.
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #152 on: January 15, 2011, 10:52:31 pm »
Quote from: FireSoul on January 15, 2011, 05:17:25 pm
Quote from: Age on January 14, 2011, 08:56:13 pm
Hydran D7 hope work is going fine FS?

huh?

I don't quite follow. I didn't touch the D7H except to add a partial X refit version. H-D7Hx.

That's what I meant....the partial X...
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #153 on: January 15, 2011, 11:11:03 pm »
Quote from: FireSoul on January 14, 2011, 03:06:20 am
Quote from: FoaS_XC on January 13, 2011, 11:31:47 pm
How is it power hungry? the four extra dizzies take 16 power to overload, has the same move cost, everything. Am I missing something?

Yea. His sarcasm.  :crazy2:

Busted!....I guess reverse psycology is out of the question... :P

I figured if he thought it was a pig...the kinks could have one... ;D
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #154 on: January 16, 2011, 01:09:31 am »
Quote from: ShadowDiver on January 15, 2011, 10:52:31 pm
Quote from: FireSoul on January 15, 2011, 05:17:25 pm
Quote from: Age on January 14, 2011, 08:56:13 pm
Hydran D7 hope work is going fine FS?

huh?

I don't quite follow. I didn't touch the D7H except to add a partial X refit version. H-D7Hx.

That's what I meant....the partial X...

It's unfortunate that SFC doesn't have X-fusions (no cooldown!) or X hellbores.. or X ESGs.. or.. etc.
Otherwise, a lot of ships would have been a lot more interesting with the XP refit. ;)
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #155 on: January 16, 2011, 05:29:37 pm »
Quote from: FireSoul on January 16, 2011, 01:09:31 am
Quote from: ShadowDiver on January 15, 2011, 10:52:31 pm
Quote from: FireSoul on January 15, 2011, 05:17:25 pm
Quote from: Age on January 14, 2011, 08:56:13 pm
Hydran D7 hope work is going fine FS?

huh?

I don't quite follow. I didn't touch the D7H except to add a partial X refit version. H-D7Hx.

That's what I meant....the partial X...

It's unfortunate that SFC doesn't have X-fusions (no cooldown!) or X hellbores.. or X ESGs.. or.. etc.
Otherwise, a lot of ships would have been a lot more interesting with the XP refit. ;)
Does that include X Photons?
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #156 on: January 17, 2011, 09:06:12 pm »
No....

Every other weapon that I have found has an X counter part........in some form or another whether it is actually called an X or Heavy weapon.....even plasmas got upgraded.....but not EGS's, Hellbores or Fusion's......that in and of itself unbalances the game when playing Hydran or Lyran against any other race....even the fracking ISC gets to benefit from the X refits...like the PPD's are not bad enough...
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #157 on: January 17, 2011, 10:10:23 pm »
Quote from: ShadowDiver on January 17, 2011, 09:06:12 pm
No....

Every other weapon that I have found has an X counter part........in some form or another whether it is actually called an X or Heavy weapon.....even plasmas got upgraded.....but not EGS's, Hellbores or Fusion's......that in and of itself unbalances the game when playing Hydran or Lyran against any other race....even the fracking ISC gets to benefit from the X refits...like the PPD's are not bad enough...

Is that from a SFC or SFB perspective, because G2s are so cheese.
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #158 on: January 17, 2011, 10:11:44 pm »
Quote from: Age on January 16, 2011, 05:29:37 pm
Quote from: FireSoul on January 16, 2011, 01:09:31 am

It's unfortunate that SFC doesn't have X-fusions (no cooldown!) or X hellbores.. or X ESGs.. or.. etc.
Otherwise, a lot of ships would have been a lot more interesting with the XP refit. ;)
Does that include X Photons?

Yes. That includes X-Photons, X-Disruptors, a lot of different X-Tech plasmas... etc.
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Re: FYI: work in progress: OP+ 4.1
« Reply #159 on: January 17, 2011, 10:19:02 pm »
Quote from: FoaS_XC on January 17, 2011, 10:10:23 pm
Quote from: ShadowDiver on January 17, 2011, 09:06:12 pm
No....

Every other weapon that I have found has an X counter part........in some form or another whether it is actually called an X or Heavy weapon.....even plasmas got upgraded.....but not EGS's, Hellbores or Fusion's......that in and of itself unbalances the game when playing Hydran or Lyran against any other race....even the fracking ISC gets to benefit from the X refits...like the PPD's are not bad enough...

Is that from a SFC or SFB perspective, because G2s are so cheese.

Ok. Stop it right there!
The Ph-G2, the PLaE, PLaX, The "Heavy" phasers and "Heavy" Photons and "Heavy" Disruptors were all Taldren inventions, inaccurate SFB-wise and way overpowered. (especially the Ph-G2)

The PhX is.. close to the truth, but even it isn't right now-a-days: they removed the Overloading (1.5X damage) but kept something SFC doesn't have: the pulse.
ie: a Ph-1X can pulse as 2 Ph3s defensively.

.. and that's just the beginning. There's more.
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