Topic: Starfox's textrue tweeks and kitbashes.

[Starfox1701]

Just what it says. Working on some stuff for A2 and wanted to share.

[Aramus]

nice

[Starfox1701]

Working on fighters for a Hydran Battleship inspiered me to bash out some more. Ben working from FoaS_XC's fed fighter meshes.  We have an F 14, F 15, F 16, F 4, and F 8.

[Starfox1701]

Aries great necrothread and show forth my works

Been tinkering again more to follow

[Bernard Guignard]

keep up the great work 

[Starfox1701]

Thanks guys

[intermech]

That Phase II Constitution is fantastic. If it is really built for Armada, that is some amazingly efficient use of polygons!

[Starfox1701]

Its lord schtupp's model with a tweaked version of atheorhaven's USS Doohan texture to push it firmly into the TMP era. By the time I'm done she will have full rig lods for both mesh and textures. She will also have friends I have some Constitution Family Photos for now

[Chrystoff]

Wow!! This all looks great! Refreshing previous models will add more life and fun to the game! 

[FoaS_XC]

That's a mighty collection of Connies you have there...

[atheorhaven]

Its lord schtupp's model with a tweaked version of atheorhaven's USS Doohan texture to push it firmly into the TMP era. By the time I'm done she will have full rig lods for both mesh and textures. She will also have friends I have some Constitution Family Photos for now

Just before you complete that Phase II ship, let me know and send me your textures, and I'll do the same coloured illumination maps for you that I did for the Doohan. 

[Starfox1701]

Wow!! This all looks great! Refreshing previous models will add more life and fun to the game! 

Thanks but I cant take full cread as the starting models and textures where good stuuf to begin with.

That's a mighty collection of Connies you have there...

Thanks. Got 5 LS base models and 5 P81 base models and texturs to show 11 or 12 different variations over 135 year service history.

Its lord schtupp's model with a tweaked version of atheorhaven's USS Doohan texture to push it firmly into the TMP era. By the time I'm done she will have full rig lods for both mesh and textures. She will also have friends I have some Constitution Family Photos for now

Just before you complete that Phase II ship, let me know and send me your textures, and I'll do the same coloured illumination maps for you that I did for the Doohan. 

K I'll send you all 4 vertions; Endeavor, Bunker Hill, Doohan and the blank set. BTW I changed the registry on the Doohan to NCC-1776 because the history I worked out didn't work with 1900 range number. That would have put her being built in the mid 2290s not the early 2270s.

The Armada versions of these Constitutions will have damage meshes. Got som pics here of the LS first pilot version Constitution enjoy

[atheorhaven]

K I'll send you all 4 vertions; Endeavor, Bunker Hill, Doohan and the blank set. BTW I changed the registry on the Doohan to NCC-1776 because the history I worked out didn't work with 1900 range number. That would have put her being built in the mid 2290s not the early 2270s.

The Armada versions of these Constitutions will have damage meshes. Got som pics here of the LS first pilot version Constitution enjoy

No worries about the registry change, the Doohan had her registry as James Doohan's birth year, and she was released as a small "Thank You" to an amazing guy after his passing. 

Just PM me a download link, or I'll PM you an email addy that you can send a download link or archived texture set to, your choice. 

[Starfox1701]

Got the email. I'll get them to you in the next day or so. On another note I thought I had a cheat sheet on woh to hardpoint models for the SFC games but I cant find it. Would some on be so kind as to direct me to another copy or some instructions please. I mod mostly for A2; not SFC

[FoaS_XC]

Think we could see a top-down of that Hydran craft?
Curious what you did with the TOS design.

[Starfox1701]

Think we could see a top-down of that Hydran craft?
Curious what you did with the TOS design.

Ah my Monarch retexture. Its Thu11's model with some parts and the Textures from Destynova's Paladin DN. What you think?

Another Question how do you scale models for this game?

[Klingon Fanatic]

Think we could see a top-down of that Hydran craft?
Curious what you did with the TOS design.

Ah my Monarch retexture. Its Thu11's model with some parts and the Textures from Destynova's Paladin DN. What you think?

Another Question how do you scale models for this game?

Well, the Thulls Gorn Romulan and Hydran fleet used in SFC: OP+ have a model size file that dictates the ship sizes. If you want more specific info. the model gurus can help with that.

I'd like to see this texture set released as an additional option.

[atheorhaven]

Endeavour is completed, will send that to you tonight.  Was working on Bunker Hill yesterday, but had to pause while we went out to go get a cat.  Will continue when I get home tonight. 

[Starfox1701]

Think we could see a top-down of that Hydran craft?
Curious what you did with the TOS design.

Ah my Monarch retexture. Its Thu11's model with some parts and the Textures from Destynova's Paladin DN. What you think?

Another Question how do you scale models for this game?

Well, the Thulls Gorn Romulan and Hydran fleet used in SFC: OP+ have a model size file that dictates the ship sizes. If you want more specific info. the model gurus can help with that.

I'd like to see this texture set released as an additional option.

The texture is just Destynovas standard texture. I remaped the model. I'm a bit tied up on the other ships right now but I'll see about a release when I get done.

Endeavour is completed, will send that to you tonight.  Was working on Bunker Hill yesterday, but had to pause while we went out to go get a cat.  Will continue when I get home tonight. 

Great! Theres no rush just get it when you can.

Today I have some pic of a team effort. The majoraty of the texture changes are by a buddy named Jetfreak form over in the A2 community. I did the markings on her and the model changes. Base model is the good old P81 Constitution refit. Its a dominion war refit

[Starfox1701]

Got some revamping of the Venerable P81 Ambassador. Gat TLE and TNG verstions here bassed on rendirions from ex-astris-scientia gallery

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/ambassador1.htm

What do you all think C&C please

[atheorhaven]

Agreed... it's looking good man..

(edit: Btw everyone, Starfox already has the new illumination textures for the Endeavour, Bunker Hill, Doohan and the blank set as well.  Just updating the thread so people don't wonder about them, if anyone was.) 

[Starfox1701]

Agreed... it's looking good man..

(edit: Btw everyone, Starfox already has the new illumination textures for the Endeavour, Bunker Hill, Doohan and the blank set as well.  Just updating the thread so people don't wonder about them, if anyone was.) 

Going to do a release for SFC 2 for all the conies. I just don't know if it will be a set or not. Also waiting a a beta test report

smooth im curious to see the ambassador in lower light to let the lightmaps through

This is the best I can do for a lighting test right now.

[Starfox1701]

Got the first set of registeries done; C&C please

[atheorhaven]

Got the first set of registeries done; C&C please

Registries look clean, base textures look good.  Windows are the only issue I can see, they look a bit low res and not crisp, and you have windows on the backs of the nacelle pylons which I'd recommend losing. 

Ship looks good but the pylons on the ship are reflecting the ships age.  Would love to see ita kit bash one of these days (maybe I can do it) where his pylons are replaced with something a bit higher poly..

[Starfox1701]

Got the first set of registeries done; C&C please

Registries look clean, base textures look good.  Windows are the only issue I can see, they look a bit low res and not crisp, and you have windows on the backs of the nacelle pylons which I'd recommend losing. 

Ship looks good but the pylons on the ship are reflecting the ships age.  Would love to see ita kit bash one of these days (maybe I can do it) where his pylons are replaced with something a bit higher poly..

Thoughs arn't windows, they are sensor palet intalation points. The are on the studio model. They just never took the tome to paint them like they did on every onther model. Window in generall are probaly going to have to be redone at some point. As far as a pylon bash goes some body would need to build another model first as DJ Curtus and LC Admiral won't cut release permissions for their stuff any more Thats why I didn't try it this go round.

[Bernard Guignard]

Think we could see a top-down of that Hydran craft?
Curious what you did with the TOS design.

Ah my Monarch retexture. Its Thu11's model with some parts and the Textures from Destynova's Paladin DN. What you think?

Another Question how do you scale models for this game?

Well, the Thulls Gorn Romulan and Hydran fleet used in SFC: OP+ have a model size file that dictates the ship sizes. If you want more specific info. the model gurus can help with that.

I'd like to see this texture set released as an additional option.

The texture is just Destynovas standard texture. I remaped the model. I'm a bit tied up on the other ships right now but I'll see about a release when I get done.

Endeavour is completed, will send that to you tonight.  Was working on Bunker Hill yesterday, but had to pause while we went out to go get a cat.  Will continue when I get home tonight. 

Great! Theres no rush just get it when you can.

Today I have some pic of a team effort. The majoraty of the texture changes are by a buddy named Jetfreak form over in the A2 community. I did the markings on her and the model changes. Base model is the good old P81 Constitution refit. Its a dominion war refit

Hello Starfox would it be possible to get a picture of the stern of the Wyvern ?  Thank you in advance

[Starfox1701]

Agreed... it's looking good man..

(edit: Btw everyone, Starfox already has the new illumination textures for the Endeavour, Bunker Hill, Doohan and the blank set as well.  Just updating the thread so people don't wonder about them, if anyone was.) 

Going to do a release for SFC 2 for all the conies. I just don't know if it will be a set or not. Also waiting a a beta test report

smooth im curious to see the ambassador in lower light to let the lightmaps through

This is the best I can do for a lighting test right now.

bloody impressive, lightmaps work well Registries are nicely done as well

Thank you, got a TNG set her now.

Think we could see a top-down of that Hydran craft?
Curious what you did with the TOS design.

Ah my Monarch retexture. Its Thu11's model with some parts and the Textures from Destynova's Paladin DN. What you think?

Another Question how do you scale models for this game?

Well, the Thulls Gorn Romulan and Hydran fleet used in SFC: OP+ have a model size file that dictates the ship sizes. If you want more specific info. the model gurus can help with that.

I'd like to see this texture set released as an additional option.

The texture is just Destynovas standard texture. I remaped the model. I'm a bit tied up on the other ships right now but I'll see about a release when I get done.

Endeavour is completed, will send that to you tonight.  Was working on Bunker Hill yesterday, but had to pause while we went out to go get a cat.  Will continue when I get home tonight. 

Great! Theres no rush just get it when you can.

Today I have some pic of a team effort. The majoraty of the texture changes are by a buddy named Jetfreak form over in the A2 community. I did the markings on her and the model changes. Base model is the good old P81 Constitution refit. Its a dominion war refit

Hello Starfox would it be possible to get a picture of the stern of the Wyvern ?  Thank you in advance

Done

We also have a Dommion War refit inspired by WZ's Vanquisher.

[Starfox1701]

Other stuff from off My HD; It the An NX version of the P81 Excelsior.

[Terradyhne]

these Ambassador variants look great, the Excelsior is not that good looking to me, as the P81 textures look more like the Hull is made out of ceramic hullplating than out of metal. 

[Chrystoff]

I like that Connie with the aft firing tube! I hope you'll release a standard TMP version with the aft tube.

[atheorhaven]

these Ambassador variants look great, the Excelsior is not that good looking to me, as the P81 textures look more like the Hull is made out of ceramic hullplating than out of metal. 

They do look kind of ceramic, but I also think they're fairly representative of the look of the ship.  A lot of people like the variant looks, but I always thought that the original look was pretty clean, and I'm a fan of it personally.  My thought is that I like to see ingame what I've seen onscreen from time to time on the canon ships.   Always thought the ceramic look was that it was a spray-on coating like Tremclad or Rustoleum to help protect the hull from "sandpapering" from micrometeorites or such at impulse.

reference images:

[Starfox1701]

these Ambassador variants look great, the Excelsior is not that good looking to me, as the P81 textures look more like the Hull is made out of ceramic hullplating than out of metal. 

Well just working with what I have

I like that Connie with the aft firing tube! I hope you'll release a standard TMP version with the aft tube.

there are 3 versions, a late TMP one that went into production in 2295 to replace the oldest refit constitutions whose spaceframes where waring out, a 2330 refit which resembles the DS9 Mirandas, and the DW refit which started in 2373.

these Ambassador variants look great, the Excelsior is not that good looking to me, as the P81 textures look more like the Hull is made out of ceramic hullplating than out of metal. 

They do look kind of ceramic, but I also think they're fairly representative of the look of the ship.  A lot of people like the variant looks, but I always thought that the original look was pretty clean, and I'm a fan of it personally.  My thought is that I like to see ingame what I've seen onscreen from time to time on the canon ships.   Always thought the ceramic look was that it was a spray-on coating like Tremclad or Rustoleum to help protect the hull from "sandpapering" from micrometeorites or such at impulse.

reference images:

Yea I still don't know how to get the pearlesence look yet

[Starfox1701]

Another installment. This time we have Several examples of the regular production Excelsior. As you know this class remained in production for at least 50 years with cannon registries running into the 43000's.  Most of these ships represent the style of the TMP era markings which remained on the model through out TNG's TV production Of note are the Hood and Jakarta. Hood represents the DS9 CGI model and Jakarta is a fanon early TNG production run which explains the high number.

My friend Jetfreak gets equal creadit for these a he did the first round of tweeks and designed the basic look of Jakarta.

C&C please

[FoaS_XC]

I'm not the biggest fan of p81's excelsior either. Still - the tweaks are looking good .

[USS Mariner]

Nice job all around. It would be nice if you included the original NCC-2541 registry for the Hood (that was the registry placed on the ILM model for Encounter at Farpoint, but it was later forgotten and switched to the five digit one we know now.)

[Rod ONeal]

Nice work. The USS Doohan is one of my favorite all time Connie models for SFC.

[Starfox1701]

I'm not the biggest fan of p81's excelsior either. Still - the tweaks are looking good .

Thanks

Nice job all around. It would be nice if you included the original NCC-2541 registry for the Hood (that was the registry placed on the ILM model for Encounter at Farpoint, but it was later forgotten and switched to the five digit one we know now.)

I will see what I can do.

Nice work. The USS Doohan is one of my favorite all time Connie models for SFC.

Thanks

Got the other half of the Excelsior family here. First 3 are just standard fare, Enterprise, Lakota and an erly TNG model named Forester.

Then We have Tyho; a color variation produced at the Antares Naval Yards.

Lastly is my take on Ingraham; the second SCS from the Excelsior program. Originally conceved by Todd Gunther as an alternate transwarp prototype. I have taken the idea and attempted to create a prototype for the Mk2 hull. The idea is that the Mk1 would be exploration hulls and the Mk2s would be Battlecruisers. In the wake of the failure of the Transwarp Drive and the "reorganisation" of StarFleet after the Khitomer Accords the Mk2 hull was radicaly altered to the form we know as Enterprise B and Lakota. What you all think?

[DuctTapeWonder]

Hey Starfox. This all looks great. Is any of this up for DL?

[Starfox1701]

Not yet I had a set back. My OS crashed. I tried to reinstall only to find out that MS has black listed my product cod >:(e so till i can get another copy they are all traped on my HD

[atheorhaven]

Right there is one of the biggest problems with Windows, XP and on.  the "activation" mechanism.  Just waiting until that's retired along with XP SP3 going away.  Then you're going to hear some screaming...

The laptop I use for modelling on still has Windows 2000 on it for exactly that reason.  I have all its bibs and bobs for a reinstall, and no "phoning home" to check and see if I am a dirty criminal even when I legitmately bought the OS (in this case, came with the laptop OEM).

You should be able to access your data and back it off using a Linux LiveCD like Mepis or TinyME (something that supports united file system), and just have an external drive plugged in when you boot it up.  You should be able to back it all up at your leisure to your external then.  And then its all safe if you have to reformat the drive and go a different OS.

That's one of the problems though running codes or cracks, eventually Microsoft catches up and in this case, your only option to buy a new OS would likely be Windows 7 with XP Mode (if the hardware supports it).  Or XP off eBay, or in town (that may put you in exactly the same place).

First things first though, get a Linux LiveCD and back up your data.  Then whatever happens to the OS, you at least won't lose anything that you were working on or that you downloaded. 

[Starfox1701]

How would I go about intalling somthing like that without a functionin os?

[FoaS_XC]

sadly you can't - unless you were to do it at a friends house.

If you ever do that though, I actually really recommend Mint for a linux build - its a very nice ease in to linux, a windows power-user should find their way around it far more quickly than with most other linux distros.

Might spend the afternoon installing it on my netbook.

[Starfox1701]

is there another os i could get and install on my pc?

[atheorhaven]

Actually you can, but it's using a workaround.  If you look for the "Ultimate Boot CD for Windows" it's self-booting and has a Windows Setup option.  You can use that to "Repair" your installation and put in a valid key.  I'd suggest the earlier options I'd given you, an OEM key with an OEM disc for your system (if it's something like Gateway, Dell, Acer, Ibm/Lenovo, HP, etc) will let you get back up and running under Windows XP.  But it'll likely be a reinstall from scratch, so back things up first.

Second option, Linux LiveCD.. again, I just downloadeed a Mepis disc and it let me access what I needed off my system.  (Working on rebuilding a Windows 2000 box as well with corrupt registries and I'm using a Linux disc to copy backups around.  Into Safe Mode with it now, but no networking or Normal mode yet).  Mint is good as well.  One thing I'd look for online to download if you go the Linux route is Winedoors, it's older but it does an awesome job of getting Windows apps running under Linux using Wine.

Another lesser option might be ReactOS, but I don't think that's ready for Prime Time yet.  But you might get a LiveCD of it and use that for data backup.

If you do throw a Linux install on the box, make sure not to overwrite your current partition, most distros will squish the Windows partition a bit to give itself room on the hard drive.  So choose that option, not to wipe or delete any existing partitions.

Absolute safest option?  Pull the hard drive out and put it on a shelf.  Go out and buy a drive enclosure and another hard drive for the computer.  Put the original drive in the enclosure, install Windows on the replacement drive.  Rebuild, then plug in the enclosure and copy data (not the full drive) back onto your new install.  Then you also have a good backup of your ships and such sitting in an accessible enclosure and probably more room in your Windows install because you'll probably have a larger drive in the box.  Win/win..

Good luck man..

[Starfox1701]

With the help of my brother's IT skill I'm back. Atheorhaven did you ever test the ships I sent you?

[atheorhaven]

I tested them in SFC2 Demo, think they looked fine. 

[Starfox1701]

Thats great news. Now I can start tinkering with the rest of the Connies and maybe get the Yamato model converted over for Bernard; thanks