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Fed Strategies 2.
« on: August 11, 2010, 06:23:27 pm »
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Lets see, the SG F-BCE, the changes I made to this Taldren movie ship coffin were never shouted down by the klinks, so I think my tweak passed the mustard, at least for the few who flew it.

If memory serves, I added an ADD12, chnged the arcs on the phasers to be a little better, notably 2x Ph3 ALL and 2xPh1 ALL. The biggest change that the BCE underwent was the two rear firing Photons being changed from RA to FARA. And I changed the move cost from 1.25 to 1.24 which solved a fractional power problem at top speed. It now needs 38.44 points of power to go 31 instead of 38.75. That tiny bit of fractional power has a huge benefit. And I think the shuttle launch rate was increased from 1 to 2.
I usually use a 3 times type A add or 4 time type phaser G all the rest I leave alone as for the rest of the Fed. BCHs I give them 44 power and as well all Constitution class classes get 6 transporters.

I wanted to reply to Dizzy's post so had to make new thread. 

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2010, 06:31:16 pm »
Age, you can do whatever you feel is warranted in solo play, and tweaking the shiplist is kinda fun. But there arnt many things you can do without upseting the balance of PvP.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2010, 08:17:54 pm »
Age, you can do whatever you feel is warranted in solo play, and tweaking the shiplist is kinda fun. But there arnt many things you can do without upseting the balance of PvP.
Yeah I sure know that as Pest. has said to me.It is all in the name of fun though.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2010, 04:03:18 am »
All I've ever asked for in ship upgrades for the Feds is to give the BCG double drone control. No extra power,  ADD's, or phasers.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that's too radical. ;)

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2010, 09:42:45 am »
The best Fed strategy is heavy reliance on your Gorn allies, or is that reliance on your heavy Gorn allies, I can never keep it straight.
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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2010, 03:11:51 pm »
All I've ever asked for in ship upgrades for the Feds is to give the BCG double drone control. No extra power,  ADD's, or phasers.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that's too radical. ;)

I really only play with slow drones, never much D2, but I think that sounds good. With slow drones and the ship the way it is now, I would always pick the BCF over the BCG.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2010, 06:39:24 pm »
All I've ever asked for in ship upgrades for the Feds is to give the BCG double drone control. No extra power,  ADD's, or phasers.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that's too radical. ;)
How many drones would that be?I prefer BCG over BCF.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2010, 08:23:14 pm »
All I've ever asked for in ship upgrades for the Feds is to give the BCG double drone control. No extra power,  ADD's, or phasers.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that's too radical. ;)
How many drones would that be?I prefer BCG over BCF.

If I have my ships right, the BCG would still have four drones (2 dro-G, 2 dro-B) compared to the two dro-G of the BCF, but it would be able to have 12 on the map at a time, rather than just six. Come to think of it, do the Fed BCHs have a double shuttle launch rate? If so, the BCG with double drone control could really wreak some (more) havoc.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2010, 11:11:39 pm »
I'm not sure the BCG has a double shuttle launch rate, I know the BCV does, but since it only has a 6 drone control, I've never tried to launch two SP's at the same time while flying a Kirov class(BCG). But even if it doesn't have double shuttle launch, 10 drones are a major headache for your local Rom or Klink while you charge in with 4 OL photons.  ;)

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2010, 12:03:56 am »
Does the BCV have 12 control?

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 12:36:59 am »
It's been awhile since I've flown one, but yeah, I'm pretty sure the BCV has double drone control. Nice to talk to you, Dizzy.  :coolsmiley:

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2010, 09:39:44 pm »
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Lets see, the SG F-BCE, the changes I made to this Taldren movie ship coffin were never shouted down by the klinks, so I think my tweak passed the mustard, at least for the few who flew it.

If memory serves, I added an ADD12, chnged the arcs on the phasers to be a little better, notably 2x Ph3 ALL and 2xPh1 ALL. The biggest change that the BCE underwent was the two rear firing Photons being changed from RA to FARA. And I changed the move cost from 1.25 to 1.24 which solved a fractional power problem at top speed. It now needs 38.44 points of power to go 31 instead of 38.75. That tiny bit of fractional power has a huge benefit. And I think the shuttle launch rate was increased from 1 to 2.


That's way too powerful considering the extra hull on that thing.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2010, 10:41:56 pm »
wAAAAYYYYY too. What part? The redefined phaser arcs or the fractional point of power for movement or the RA to FARA arc or the shuttle launch? U know, if you take that thing up against a C7 with casual PF's I dont think it can hang, that add12 just doesnt cut it and not having drones kills ya. The BCE still doesnt have the mojo. Better stuff out there... but it makes it barely worth it to try it. That was the point.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2010, 11:25:09 pm »
Lol, after the OL photons it ate and the inability to land a drone or a tractor lock I think it would be a pretty short fight.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2010, 11:54:10 pm »
Ok you're on. We will see who gets their lunch owned using D2 loadouts. Even with those modest changes to the BCE it aint up to snuff, but if any fed captain can pull it off its you. Lets see how well you do. Ill have to get OP reloaded here soon.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 01:16:05 am »
Don't waste your time, I really couldn't care less.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2010, 10:02:53 pm »
too into ddo?

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2010, 01:16:36 pm »
No, that's barely holding my attention at this point. I'm just not that interested in finding out who would win that fight. If you think the C7-P (or whatever it's called) would win, that's good enough for me.

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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2010, 02:08:57 pm »
You should come over to EVE corbo :)
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Re: Fed Strategies 2.
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2010, 09:36:39 am »
I dont know why I never tried eve. Is it like flying fed?