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Thread Request FoaS_XC
« on: August 11, 2010, 02:09:02 pm »
FOAS, please unlock the thread you locked please. Perhaps move it to the hot n spicy graveyard and let us duke it out. This D2 community is OLD and it isnt our way to sweep things under the rug and move on. These things need to be worked out. I got a lotta sh*t to say too. Like the following which you can add to that thread you locked and then lock it again so I get the last word ;)

Krueg, wtf. I played as coalition for many servers. I even put up with the indignity of having you tell me to STFU on voice comms and still stuck it out so I could show everyone I wasnt a biased alliance crack whore. You have no idea how much fun I had killing capt jeff, Wanderer and DH with my NHK one mission. You wont ever know how cool it was to make lasting friendships with some coalition types who for years all we did was relish the chance to kill each other and talk smack about it on the boards.

You wont ever know how tough it is for admins because you never ran a campaign. Im glad you championed the Coalition because no one else wanted the job, and its a hard job keeping your teams tempers in check and making sure they all show up for the fight... BUT, you were never hated by both sides time and again. Your entire career has been completely one sided. You've never once championed the other side. Whenever you try and run a campaign, you are damned if you do or dont. Like you, I did it because no one else was gonna. But unlike you I got lambasted from both sides. Decisions Ive made for the greater good over the servers Ive run from the perspective of both sides has cost me. I dont think you can say the same.

The invitation for playtesting was always there for you all the long nights me n DH playtested ships, but never had you guys participate. Like the C10k vs the F-DNH before changing the latter to 6 Drone control? WTF? I never got to say how pissed I was that your side always left the playtesting up to us and then bitched about it after the server started like you got blindsided. I dont think its fair for you guys to do that especially because of how hard we worked to make it fair and balanced. I wonder how many players it cost us to get it finished?

As far as the BCE and NCM SG versions, dude, no one ever flew them because they were coffins until the SG upgrade. A couple of small improvements had the desired effect, a FEW players tried them out and flew them and had fun, although no one I knew ever killed anything significant with one. But they got flown, and that was the idea. I cant believe you'd bitch about trying to bring more ship diversity to the game after all these years. OMG. At the very least the klinks got new targets to kill, and when those ships YFA were other better ships to buy. SO you should be THANKING ME because those taldren movie ships SUCKED ass at hex flipping, lol.

Krueg, I dont know if you've ever gotten it or not. I dont think you have... I never saw you fight the good fight for the other team, for the greater good, to try and get the community to be as populated and fun as it could be. However, I think you did a great job for your side, if only the alliance could have had someone as consistent as you to champion them...

You know, if players left the sfc community because of me, then it wasnt because I was an alliance sycophant, it was because I was a cunning captain and an asshole of a braggart. But I was an equal opportunity asshole and the coalition and alliance BOTH were the target of my boastful stories each and every time I won and shouldnt have. You know what, I was such a dickhead when I wrote those stories, but they were good reads and that french flag sh*t was damned funny. So bite me. For those that left because I beat them, grow some. If I've left a legacy here, besides the boastful asshole I've been, at least I can say I championed the good fight from BOTH sides of the fence and can stand behind the latest version of the SG shiplist and proudly say it is the most refined and PvP balanced list ever.

As far as DH, wow, he put in countless hours to make the game better. And Krueg, I know you tried to get the coalition to show up in stength about every server. To me, despite all our differences, you both rock in your own ways. I hope you guys kiss and make up, cause I think this community hasnt seen its last D2 server. There are things going on atm that would surprise everyone. And Im not done writing boastful stories...
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Re: Fed Strategy Thread Request FoaS_XC
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2010, 02:37:07 pm »
Waiting for the surprise..........
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Re: Fed Strategy Thread Request FoaS_XC
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2010, 02:51:48 pm »
Not the stories? Aw shucks, I'm gonna go looking for the Romulan Gambit's R-NHK vs F-CVS+, F-CB, F-NCL+. Someone pass the popcorn.

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Re: Fed Strategy Thread Request FoaS_XC
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2010, 04:08:12 pm »
Read most if not all stories. Oh I'll share some of mine. :popcorn:
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Re: Fed Strategy Thread Request FoaS_XC
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2010, 04:27:58 pm »
I got no problem with old friends headbutting in good fun, but I do have a problem strong-handed personal attacks. You should know that it was another "old pilot" who reported the post, and who felt it was getting out of hand - an opinion that I agreed with.

Next time you want to have a thread unlocked, please don't create another thread that could potentially throw gas on a fire just to get your last word in. PM me, or another mod, it's what we're here for.
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Re: Fed Strategy Thread Request FoaS_XC
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2010, 05:00:20 pm »
But you locked it... It was the finality of it. That thread wasnt bad. I hate seeing mods lock threads for any reason. Its not fair to all the other posters of said thread to get shut up when they did nothing wrong. Unlock the thread please and move the offending posts to this thread and relocate this one or lock this one.

And while you're reading, wtf is going on with dynanet? Right up to a few mins ago I was under apparently the WRONG impression of what was being planned for this community. I started reading about space navy control or something and Lepton was told it wasnt gonna be trek, but similar, and then Ive heard sfc4 is crap and that EAW is the one that is getting star treatment. I'd like an end to the rumors and have concrete info on wtf is going on.

1. Whats this all got to do with a stable server kit D2 game we all know and love that will work on SFC2EAW/OP that is SFB Based Trek???
2. Is Freys Omniverse BS ever gonna pan out?
3. WHEN is EAW work going to be updated to OP and how?
  a. Will we see an interface for working TRB's, will we see xship tech, etc.
  b. What are the differences between EAW and OP concerning serverkit functionality?

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Re: Fed Strategy Thread Request FoaS_XC
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2010, 06:18:21 pm »
But you locked it... It was the finality of it. That thread wasnt bad. I hate seeing mods lock threads for any reason. Its not fair to all the other posters of said thread to get shut up when they did nothing wrong. Unlock the thread please and move the offending posts to this thread and relocate this one or lock this one.


I was going to wait a day or two, and post "cool your heads, and let's get back on topic a bit" and unlock it. Trust me, dizzy, I, nor any of the other mods here, are authoritarian dictators, we love the community as much as anyone else. There's no way we'd become mods if we didn't. If you think I've abused my mod powers, I encourage you to tell Frey or SFHQ. That's the best I can tell you, man. As far as other people getting shut out, I did say "if you want to continue the strategies discussion, make a new thread".


And while you're reading, wtf is going on with dynanet? Right up to a few mins ago I was under apparently the WRONG impression of what was being planned for this community. I started reading about space navy control or something and Lepton was told it wasnt gonna be trek, but similar, and then Ive heard sfc4 is crap and that EAW is the one that is getting star treatment. I'd like an end to the rumors and have concrete info on wtf is going on.

1. Whats this all got to do with a stable server kit D2 game we all know and love that will work on SFC2EAW/OP that is SFB Based Trek???
2. Is Freys Omniverse BS ever gonna pan out?
3. WHEN is EAW work going to be updated to OP and how?
  a. Will we see an interface for working TRB's, will we see xship tech, etc.
  b. What are the differences between EAW and OP concerning serverkit functionality?

I'm not sure what's going on with SFC4/the source code. Frey made mention that Firesoul was back, but he hasn't posted a proper news thread. I couldn't give you an answer on all those technical questions. As far as Space Navy Control, it was something we tossed around as an idea, it wasn't anything that someone committed a "Here's what we're going to do" (much as I, too, would've loved to see that happen). I'm also not sure how much Lepton is "in the room" on these things.
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Re: Fed Strategy Thread Request FoaS_XC
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2010, 06:29:25 pm »
I dropped Leptons name because he dropped interest when he found out Space Navy Control wasnt trek. That was why I was getting concerned that work and effort would be expended on something not D2. Man, all I want for xmas is a D2 that works on win7 with an OCI and a stable server kit that can handle 100 peeps and Im good. I would so help out in an endeavor like that, I just hope thats what's around the corner.

Look, you did the right thing I suppose with that thread. There are a lot of ways to interpet it. I like the way you responded and I dig your style. So no worries from me.

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Re: Thread Request FoaS_XC
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2010, 07:53:42 pm »
Look, FoaS did do the correct thing in locking the thread, its still the primary way to do it, those 2 posts easily could have exploded in far more.

Actually on some other threads on other forums, Ive had it happen where more posts exploded the thread even more while I was in the middle of the mod/admin control panel issuing whatever warnings or bans were needed etc(when I forgot to lock it first).
And especially on this instance in which is seems to be a huge boil over that needed to just be calmed for a little bit of time.

So a couple of things,
a) As Foas mentioned, this isnt the proper way to handel thread unlock requests, PMing the mod or admin is how it should be done, mainly to prevent the bad feelings to spill over into another thread

b) Foas in my opinion did do what was needed to keep the thread under control and responded to it when he saw the reported posts

finally

With the strategies discussion threads, eveyone please keep it in your mind that we all have our favorite ships, styles/tactics, and races, SO if someone does post/suggest that any certain ship or tactic is the cheese of all cheese or something like that, dont totally smash them down for it, no one is perfect, and keep in mind it may indeed be the cheese of all cheese for them. No point, dont waste the time or energy to smash it, just offer a different strategy or alternative, OK? Doesnt that seem more fair in strategy discussion?

On another note, with D2, well personally I cant really answer them right now, ive got sketchy public wifi atm, because my home internet is out and im having a ton of RL stuff come out, so i havent had a chance to sync up with Frey about that stuff for a few weeks, hopefully Ill be able to soon.

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