Topic: Favorite Trek Movie

[Nemesis]

Yes.But it never came to be so the fact is on screen which is the truth they are Klingon.It states it here as wellbop.

Sorry I've seen enough of Wikipedia "edit wars" to know not to trust it on anything with a fan base.

TOS had the D7, obviously a Federation/Earth designation for the design likely due to not knowing the Klingon name.  Outside of the Bird of Prey the other Klingon ship classes named have Klingon names like the K'Tinga and so forth.  The Bird of Prey is a name characteristic of the Romulans, it has neither a Klingon name nor a routine designation but is named for its appearance as Romulan ships are.

The original script for the Klingon version had Kruge STEALING the ship from the Romulans.  Though it never showed on screen it does show that Roddenberry considered it to be a Romulan ship.

the british mosquito may have been made in Canada but it was british design so this making it a british plane.Britian was being bombed lost probably most of their factories who built aircraft. Where else are they going to get it built?You were considered a british subject outside of Canada at the time even if you went to the US you were British.

You know the Mosquito was British designed how?  I've never seen a reference to where it was designed.  All I've ever seen is the British attribution and the more accurate Canadian built but British operated.  Never have I seen a reference to where it was built. have you or are you just making an assumption?

[Nemesis]

Wait. Canada made airplanes?

I thought they flew around in war Freesbies.

Stephen

I believe it was President Truman who described Canada as the allies aerodrome.  Partly for the huge number of planes we built and partly for the number of pilots (including American ones) we trained for the allies.

The Avrocar was a failure.

Thats what we want them to believe .

[Brush Wolf]

When the British flew fighters and bombers that should have been stamped Made in Canada during WWII they were identified as British.  Even now books about WWII planes list them as British and few mention the Made in Canada part. 

When Dunkirk wiped out their military vehicles most of the replacements came from Canada.  When planes were being destroyed in the hundreds and thousands during the Battle of Britain the replacements were made here but considered British as the British used them.

Many of the "British" MTB's and MGB's were built on this side of the pond. They were built to a British specification and sailed under the British flag making them British boats. The same would apply to any British planes built over here. General history books will never get down to the level of detail describing where particular pieces of hardware were built.

[Tulwar]

This is why I hate the idea of a ST cannon.  So many different ideas seem to have been forced together that too much has to be explained.  People should stop trying to make sense of it all, and new productions shouldn't pretend to exist in the same universe as previous productions.  There have been so many badly done productions over the last nearly half a century, that the idea of a story cannon is rediculous.  If somebody likes a theme from one production, they shouldn't have to deal with the baggage from another.

[Dash Jones]

Actually Kirk and company were able to spy into the BoP's bridge in balance of terror, and too their surprise they see that Romulans look like Vulcans.

Also, there was the lady spy in STIII who, though she had ridges was obviously not pure or completely Klingon, and my assumption was that she was at least partly romulan.  Of course they blow her up since she saw the data...but I think she was more or less a connection to the Romulans in some way.

[Lieutenant_Q]

Half Romulan Half Klingon is one theory, and perhaps a good one.

My more recent thought was that the "virus" took a little more time to get out of the Klingon females than it did the males.

(Of course the behind the scenes thought is that they were testing the "appeal" of a Klingon woman and didn't want to overdo the forehead ridges until they got fan reaction to the new ridges on the male.  Why do you think Keyh'lr had less pronounced ridges as well?  And they went with the explanation that she was half human.  They got the reaction they wanted and went with the full ridges for Klaa's exec and Lursa and Be'tor)

[Nemesis]

With the ridge vs no ridge issue I wish they had just used the idea that the Klingons had multiple races and a revolution put the bonehead Klingons in power and a future counter revolution might put the ridgeless (or another race) back into power.

[Lieutenant_Q]

Yeah, but when they gave Kor, Kang and Koloth ridges in DS9, that deep-sixed that idea.  Unfortunately. Because I really would have liked the idea that there was a Ridged Klingon and a Non-Ridged Klingon.  Similar to the way we have different colored skinned humans (because of exposure to sunlight radiation), they have Klingons that evolved with forehead ridges because some unnamed predator in a part of Qo'nos liked to attack from above, the forehead ridges provided an extra second or two for the Klingon to react.  Those without the ridges became the day's meal.

[knightstorm]

You know the Mosquito was British designed how?  I've never seen a reference to where it was designed.  All I've ever seen is the British attribution and the more accurate Canadian built but British operated.  Never have I seen a reference to where it was built. have you or are you just making an assumption?

Because its referred to as the de Havilland Mosquito after the firm that designed it.  Likewise, British designed Rolls Royce Merlin engines were produced in the US, and were considered one of the primary reasons for the success of America's premier fighter in the European theater, the North American P-51 Mustang.

[Age]

Yes.But it never came to be so the fact is on screen which is the truth they are Klingon.It states it here as wellbop.

Sorry I've seen enough of Wikipedia "edit wars" to know not to trust it on anything with a fan base.

TOS had the D7, obviously a Federation/Earth designation for the design likely due to not knowing the Klingon name.  Outside of the Bird of Prey the other Klingon ship classes named have Klingon names like the K'Tinga and so forth.  The Bird of Prey is a name characteristic of the Romulans, it has neither a Klingon name nor a routine designation but is named for its appearance as Romulan ships are.

The original script for the Klingon version had Kruge STEALING the ship from the Romulans.  Though it never showed on screen it does show that Roddenberry considered it to be a Romulan ship.

I stick to what I see on screen no matter what the script calls for.

the british mosquito may have been made in Canada but it was british design so this making it a british plane.Britian was being bombed lost probably most of their factories who built aircraft. Where else are they going to get it built?You were considered a british subject outside of Canada at the time even if you went to the US you were British.

You know the Mosquito was British designed how?  I've never seen a reference to where it was designed.  All I've ever seen is the British attribution and the more accurate Canadian built but British operated.  Never have I seen a reference to where it was built. have you or are you just making an assumption?

They were also made in Australia with Rolls Royce Engine similar to the Spitfire.The Navy used some American planes.

[knightstorm]

The Royal Navy was forced to rely on American planes in part because the Fleet air arm was controlled by the RAF before the war which resulted in the British having pathetic carrier based planes, and in part because they made the mistake on demanding a navigator seat in their primary pre-war fighter which caused it to suffer performance-wise compared to single seat fighters.  Eventually, navalized versions of RAF planes became available, however due to the differing requirements of carrier and land based operations, such planes were less than optimal.

[knightstorm]

ie. phallicly shaped.

Myself I see Klingon ships as being sharklike.  I guess it is all in what you are inclined to see .

The truth is revealed.  Dr. Evil created the first Klingon warship.
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[EschelonOfJudgemnt]

This one was easy for me.  Star Trek VI - The Undiscovered Country!!!  I would have loved to have seen the further adventures of Captain Sulu as a follow up...

Voted for STII: tWoK mostly because of the phaser buzzsaw effects.  The storyline was OK too.  Almost voted for ST: TMP instead - I love that one too.  Mostly 'cuz of the new Klingon music that was introduced.

I have a hard time getting into the Picard Era movies.  They aren't bad, but I enjoy watching the Kirk/Spock/McCoy character dynamic more.  Plus Scotty, Uhura, Sulu and Checkov come up with some great one liners!  I'll still watch Picard and company, though.

The new Star Trek movie really disappointed me.  Beer factories should never be used as Engineering sections!  I felt like the writer(s) were being too sloppy and too lazy with the storyline and taking too many liberties with the characters.  The special effects didn't save this one for me either.

 I would have much rather have seen Enterprise do the movie thing.  Or Voyager.  Or DS9...

[762_XC]

There were a few things I disliked about Trek III

1/ You killed Spock he is DEAD go on from there. 

2/ Klingons in Romulan ships. 

3/ The Klingon Captains pet.

4/ Hey BONEHEAD you only have 12 crew and you're behind enemy lines, you don't execute any of them on a whim, you don't have any to spare.

5) YOU BLEW UP THE f*ckING ENTERPRISE.

[Nemesis]

5) YOU BLEW UP THE f*ckING ENTERPRISE.

First of all as a Klingon why would I have a problem with that? 

Second KIRK blew up the Enterprise.