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[Green]

Saw it this past week, and I enjoyed the film for the incredible graphics and effects.  It was very easy to see where the $300M went.  Fantastic advancement for the movie industry, especially the sci-fi industry.

But the movie has been slammed for a lack of an original storyline.  That is a very fair slam.  Think Fern Gully with 9 foot skinny cat people instead of little ferries...and the story is pretty much the same.

Probably the best, or at least the funniest, review I've seen on the movie is at "That Guy with the Glasses".  http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/15043-ep036

There is a commercial or two before hand, but the review is worth the wait.  There are some spoilers, but if you've seen Fern Gully or Dances with Wolves ... there really aren't any spoilers.

[KBF-Crim]

Dances with smurfs.

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

Yeah, I liked it too, even if the plot was rehashed. I didn't think the script was as bad as people said, either. The effects were great and seeing it in 3D helped, just like seeing the new Star Trek movie in imax helped; I welled up when the Kelvin was being obliterated - lame as that sounds  .

[Lono]

**** Spolier Ahead ****










Ya - had lot's of fun with this one at the Imax - but Dances with Smurfs it most certainly is!

He could have done some great work satirizing modern day politics - if the plant had been in there to get the various tribes to war with each other - while the Humans supplied both sides - and gained "deal with the devil" mineral rights as the tribe became more desperate and warlike against each other.

(btw - this is what America, et al does irl all the time in Africa/Middle East/Etc...)

Throw in some well executed false flag attacks by the Avatars on their own befriended tribe - and you would have even had some real depth of thought provoking content in the story - perhaps having the same double agent in the movie pulling the going native routine after what he saw of his own people going to far with this step.

(but push the is he for real or just chasing "tail" idea even further - where the audience will be unsure just how "pure" his motive are - even after the movies credits)

Well - it would have flown well over the heads of many in the Audience - but man was that a Golden Opportunity missed - could have made it Oscar worthy even...

Maybe - when Humans are finally Uplifted - pandering to the proles in Media won't be the very very disapointing affiar it is today...

 

[Green]

Uh, right ... I'd prefer the Fern Gully storyline to the one you propose.

Take it to H&S if you want to get political. 

[Lono]

I honestly wasn't trying to get political - just to make it more thought provoking - just as the great sci-fi of Assimov, Heinlen, Bradbury, Vonnegut, and many others do.

The whole plot - by it's very nature - is political - just not very realistic as everything is taken to an unrealistic charicature of right and wrong.

But if you prefer Ferngully like plots - I'm sure you'll get many many more of them after the success of this and the unbeliveably tepid Star Trek reboot.

As for H & S - no - one can't intelligently discuss False Flag theory there - it can only be discussed in the framework of fiction as it becomes too emotional when one shatters peoples long crafted, unrealistic, belief systems about reality.

[marstone]

lol, as if ferngully wasn't making a political statement also.

I shall have to see the movie yet tho. 

[knightstorm]

The original Godzilla film was supposed to be a social commentary about nuclear weapons.  Just because a film has a political message doesn't mean people are going to watch it for that message.

[Voidwar]

Um, the dude said "Unobtainium", out loud, and more than once, and I had to stop myself from walking out of the theatre.

Most hype for the least film in a long time.