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Offline Anduril

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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2009, 05:22:38 pm »
Wow, Don't Shoot's NX-1900 is hot.  I am going to have to revisit some places I haven't been to in a long long time.   I tend to agree with FoAS's proposed modifications even though it is acceptable as is for that reality.
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2009, 05:31:09 pm »
Well, the original design is JJ-verse, which it works well for. It doesn't fly in the prime-verse without my mods, though.
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2009, 02:17:09 pm »
the buzzards would need a color change also, those disco ball buzzards dont work in real trek
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2009, 06:33:15 pm »
So let me see so far we are discussing the ship on what it should look like then you guys are going to see if you each can build it in part or whole?

If so and some one maps it I am willing to help out in textures
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2009, 11:34:50 am »
Definatetly, I will build whatever part ya need me too. Also when we have all the parts together, Can map or whatever. I like team stuff like this.
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2009, 11:48:51 am »
Since I'm going to find the TOS excelsior useful, I'll chip in in whatever way I can.

Have we settled in on a final design?
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2009, 12:05:47 pm »
I think I creamed myself a bit when I saw the Ascendant!  wwwwwooooowwwww  :smitten:
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2009, 12:18:32 pm »
Personally, I'd start by looking at the TMP Excelsior design, then the TMP Constitution refit, then the TOS Connie and then look at what sorts of pieces could have been upgraded from TOS to the TMP Excel.

I'd think nacelles, secondary hull, deflector, bridge module, impulse engines, nacelle pylons, lower sensor package on the saucer.  Secondary hull should roughly the same size seen from the top view (that appears to be a design feature).

Personal opinion, I wouldn't go for as much bling as the shiny disco ball version, I'd go more the Helena route.  The disco version is very pretty and all, but I kind of see it as Olivia Newton-John in Xanadu.. she was gorgeous then, but how well did she weather?  ;)

My two cents.. :D
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2009, 12:32:00 pm »
speaking of the Helena - did Mudd ever release it?
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2009, 12:39:48 pm »
Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on October 10, 2009, 12:36:08 pm
Do we include any JJsytle?

Sounds like a poll question.. ;)
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2009, 02:59:23 pm »
Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on October 10, 2009, 01:15:35 pm
Quote from: atheorhaven on October 10, 2009, 12:39:48 pm
Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on October 10, 2009, 12:36:08 pm
Do we include any JJsytle?

Sounds like a poll question.. ;)

not my thread :P

That's okay, do a poll question in a new thread asking for blind random input.. maybe add a picture of the Ascension, the TMP Excelsior as reference, and the Helena to it.  Just ask, which style would people prefer for a community built TOS era Excelsior... a) Helena-type styled, b) Ascension-type styled, c) Something different  d) Why bother.... or something like that.  :)
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2009, 11:48:09 pm »
Quote from: Furyofaseraph on October 10, 2009, 12:32:00 pm
speaking of the Helena - did Mudd ever release it?

Yes he did, but the link to the model is dead now. Maybe PM him.
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2009, 11:49:45 pm »
Well, I guess the first question is do you want it to be true TOS or not. If so, then the JJ universe style goes away. If you want it to be STXI style, then go all out that way, IMO.
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2009, 12:20:45 am »
Quote from: joker on October 07, 2009, 02:41:29 am
So which part of this model would you like me to build?

Furyofaseraph:- they are very good observations.

Well, I dont agree with any of them. ;) Usually FOAS is right on target, this time, this model has unique styling ques that make it it's own kinda ship. You change it like FOAS suggests, it makes it too excellsorish. I love it the way it is.

Also, I Mudd's Helena is fracking gorgeous. Course this new ship is f*cking awesome!
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2009, 12:34:02 am »
to each there own, but i find flaw in your logic: this is supposed to be a TOS excelsior - so wouldn't more excelsior traits be good?
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2009, 04:12:36 am »
If we are talking this one then I have it

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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2009, 11:50:32 am »
Hey GAFY,
Think you could send that my way?
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2009, 01:25:08 pm »
Quote from: Furyofaseraph on October 11, 2009, 11:50:32 am
Hey GAFY,
Think you could send that my way?

Wouldn't mind a copy myself.  ;)
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2009, 04:38:54 pm »
Done and Done you guys should have it by now
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Re: TOS Excelsior
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2009, 05:20:09 pm »
personal input here, id go for Connie style nacelles but rotated, put the grey grid on top of the nacelle instead of the inner sides, then pull that grid to be longer and maybe wider running about 2/3 of the top of the nacelle. Pylons id leave alone they are already square which TOS pylons are. The cargo doors id reshape to not be so flat more bubble type and taller as a result. For the saucer, remove the senor dome and replace it with a more tradition TOS style dome. Impulse engines leave the line work, but remove the little balls on them flatten it out and add a line going down each strip to the engine exhast and instead of being curved make it more flat back but rounded tips like a connies with a an exhuase grid. The bridge id replace with a TOS style one, but make two visable turbo shafts on the module and not as oval shaped.

Deflector should come out from where the current TMP deflector is but instead make that area larger and rigged like a connie then a deflector dish poking out from it larger than the hole. Id also leave the top of the engy hull flat, leaving its basic lines intact honestly.
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