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Hi Bonk
« on: August 26, 2009, 11:13:56 am »
remember me?

How have you been?

Not doing SFC these days - involved in a massive mod for Legacy. Good to see you around.

look at this, lol

http://chrisjonesgaming.net/page.php?36

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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 11:50:33 am »
Modding for legacy is like putting Victoria's Secret on my inflatable-sheep.
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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 12:59:19 pm »
You have inflatable sheep?

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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2009, 01:16:10 pm »
Doesn't everybody?
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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2009, 02:54:09 pm »
remember me?


No... who the f is this Chris Jones fellow anyway?  ;)  Just kidding... of course I do! How the heck are ya?

How have you been?


I'm doing quite well, got a great new job and a pretty good apartment back in my old neighbourhood. I've got SFB-OP up and running again on a new server on an excellent cable connection. Funny you dropped in, I was thinking of diggin UAW out for another run soon... My php and c skills continue to slowly progress. (excellent flatfile webmap development yesterday as a result of the changes in opcode caching...) Still have my fingers in every technical pie I can get my hands on. The chemistry is coming back to me strong now and I'm realising I'm turning into one of those technically experienced middle aged guys I used to look up to...

Not doing SFC these days - involved in a massive mod for Legacy. Good to see you around.


I've heard rumblings about your Legacy project. No doubt it meets the CJ standard of excellence. Got any good videos of it posted? I'm glad you dropped in to say hi.

look at this, lol

http://chrisjonesgaming.net/page.php?36


 8) I think I remember the original thread. I know I enjoyed UAW quite a bit - a very fun mod. I also liked the Ultimate TOS mod for SFC:OP - I stole textures from it for SFB-OP!

A timely visit Chris. Timely.  ;)

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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 09:33:09 pm »
Wow cool. Looks like things are going well.

Ultimate Universe Videos?

Here's a playlist full of em

http://www.ultimateuniversemod.net/video/  I host all these videos. I love the explosion effects in - 'A Miri Classic'

http://www.youtube.com/user/ChrisJonesMods#play/all/favorites-all/2/jOygJiqekq4

Ya know, I would play UAW Dynaverse again if it was up and running. I'm going to send you a pm with some ideas - about another OP Mod - not UAW.

In Legacy I've been doing a lot of scripting of missions of something called 'Exploration' Mode.

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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2009, 09:48:05 am »
Doesn't everybody?

Some of us like the real deal better...something about tempeture and movement....uuhhgg, now I'm grossing myself out.
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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 01:20:08 pm »

Diehard did I ever defeat you in battle? Betcha I could - with SFB no less.

Not sure if we've ever fought, I've not doubt you know SFC/SFB quite well.   But you gotta admit, Legacy is slightly more advanced of a game than Pong.   yes, I played the whole thing in single-player.   How modifiable is it?
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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2009, 09:05:18 pm »
Stock Legacy is what you are describing. That is quite dull and boring and it brings me physical pain to play it. We've modified everything under the sun. Moonraker Models, much improved visual including shader 3 graphics, unique explosions for each race, authentic TOS audio from the show, not the dumb*** movie..

Take a look..

http://forum.chrisjonesgaming.net/index.php?topic=3262.0

http://imagery.chrisjonesgaming.net/albums/Excel_Shader3/Shader3_TMPExcelsiors.png

http://forum.chrisjonesgaming.net/index.php?topic=2722.0

http://imagery.chrisjonesgaming.net/albums/TOSShader3/Shader3TOS_%281%29.png



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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2009, 12:42:59 pm »
Stock Legacy is what you are describing. That is quite dull and boring and it brings me physical pain to play it. We've modified everything under the sun. Moonraker Models, much improved visual including shader 3 graphics, unique explosions for each race, authentic TOS audio from the show, not the dumb*** movie..

Take a look..

http://forum.chrisjonesgaming.net/index.php?topic=3262.0

http://imagery.chrisjonesgaming.net/albums/Excel_Shader3/Shader3_TMPExcelsiors.png

http://forum.chrisjonesgaming.net/index.php?topic=2722.0

http://imagery.chrisjonesgaming.net/albums/TOSShader3/Shader3TOS_%281%29.png


Is the CONTENT any different or is it as I joked?
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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2009, 03:24:29 pm »
Chris Jones has put out a new mod might want to check his site.This a video of it on youtube it looks pretty good almost as good as movie.



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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2009, 05:43:04 pm »
I love the explosion effects in - 'A Miri Classic'

Pretty wild! It's funny how important sound is in space games. ;D

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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2009, 06:46:16 am »
Stock Legacy is what you are describing. That is quite dull and boring and it brings me physical pain to play it. We've modified everything under the sun. Moonraker Models, much improved visual including shader 3 graphics, unique explosions for each race, authentic TOS audio from the show, not the dumb*** movie..


Is the CONTENT any different or is it as I joked?

Lots of new content. Missions, ships, overall better gameplay. Scripting has become quite a lot of fun. OK so there's not a dynaverse, but multiplayer does work well using Hamachi and can be a lotta fun.

TY Age.

Bonk - The team and I are having too much fun with The Ultimate Universe.
Got some stuff going on - I'll get to you asap with that mod idea.
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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2009, 12:07:00 pm »
It's certainly one of the best mods available for Legacy, but I don't really think that it makes up for the crappiness of Legacy in general.  Believe me, whenever I was playing Legacy I was in the UU Mod, but at best that meant a half hour of gameplay or less at any one time until I had to put it down.  Bridge Commander and SFC are funnily enough far superior games that were made nearly 9 years ago now.  How the hell does that happen?

I recently uninstalled Legacy. Hadn't touched it for months.  When Star Trek Online launches, I suspect Legacy will curl up in a ball and die.


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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2009, 03:22:31 pm »
Wow, it's my long lost cousin...
(old j/k)
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Nice to see you around, with a new mod coming for a Star Trek game no less!
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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2009, 07:09:36 pm »
Nice to read something by Chris Jones. Best wishes to you sir!

Chris Jones and others there have done a fantastic job of making the vanilla game MUCH better. Unfortunatley, ST: Legacy only feels half-way done even with these mods.

One of the most frustrating things about ST: Legacy and any of the Mods for it I have seen is the extreme LACK of non-Federation ships.

Go to the mod section and the front page of the Legacy homepage if you don't believe me. 

How many repaints (Mirror Universe too) of TNG Federation ships can you possibly put into any Trek game? Has anyone in ST: Legacy community there made a FASA Klingon D-10? Nope. Klingon Academy Tholians? Nope. Star Trek New Worlds Melak? Nope.  SFC/B Hydran Carrier? SFC/B Gorn Dreadnought? Nope.

In the two years or so now that ST: Legacy has been out where are the multitudes of ships we have seen in SFC1/2/OP/3 or even BC?

For that matter, where are the ST: Legacy stock ships that should have been converted to SFC/BC by now? The FASA Romulan Winged Defender and the Federation Akula are just two ships I thought would have been converted by now.

At least the SFC series never required the community to be computer programmers to modify and had the benefit of a wider range of weapons/fighters and other things that eye candy can't compensate for.  Fancy movie style blinking lights and swirly nacelle effects are no replacements for the missile barrages, plasma ballets and fighter swarms I have come love in the SFC series.

No offense to the ST: Legacy community.

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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2009, 10:11:17 pm »
It depends on how much fun one actually has with the game that determines if it will curl up and die or not, Ultimate Universe has consistently been in the top 10 at Legacy Files since it's inception on late 2007, and I suspect it will be beyond the release of Star Trek Online. Stage 2 of our mod will be far superior to what is currently available to the public.

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Take a look at that. You must admit that is a great shot - Moonraker TMP Connie..

Hello cousin Dash - how've you been? Did you like Vin Diesel in Fast and Furious this year? I enjoyed the 1st 2 and this years - Tokyo Drift I could live without.

KF - good to see you again. The lack of non-Federation ships is an easy explanation. The Federation is what everyone knows from shows and movies, etc. The others are always going to be secondary - The Federation is the hero race, so to speak, and it stands to reason people respond well to new Fed ships. I agree about the lack of non-fed ships, but the reason is obvious there. Mods I am involved with tend to gravitate to the majority public, with some team favorites thrown in.

The ships you describe are not widely known, at least by the people I've seen commenting on and playing Ultimate Universe. SFB is niche and if I put a Hydran or Lyran in Ultimate Universe, I would get more than a few 'where did that come from' questions - although UAW had a modified Lyran DN that I wouldn't mind having in Ultimate Universe. We will have Tholians at some point. I proposed some Gorn for Enterprise and TOS eras, and they may happen.

SFC and BC have 4-6 more years of life so far that Legacy has so there's your ship number difference. I am not saying Legacy is a great game. I am saying it is a fun game, for myself and the many thousands that have downloaded and played Ultimate Universe. . 

The one thing I always wanted for Universe At War for Orion Pirates during it's development was the kind of eye candy we get with Legacy now - eye candy that even beats BC. For some reason, I cannot get my head back into BC - on any level, even by playing maps that I personally made - just cant do it. I spent the all of 2003 and part of 04 in python and one day just said 'enough!'. I had a few little mods along the way.

You don't need to be a programmer to modify an odf file in Legacy to achieve desired results, and as far as converting stock Legacy ships to SFC, that would be up to the SFC community's modelers. Maybe they've not had the desire. SFC is/was a great game - I still fire up OP - and I'll be getting with Bonk on a new idea for an OP mod - but I must defend, not stock Legacy, but our Ultimate Universe. We are combining the eye candy with scripted missions with content and strategy (a lot by myself) and a lot of dedicated team members.

I'm not here to promote Ultimate Universe, just to say hello to you and to say I very much support the SFC series and the community on this forum.

No offense taken KF - but I had to respond to some things you said.
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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2009, 02:49:54 pm »
It is firing on Klink so he might not like it.

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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2009, 01:37:35 am »

Hello cousin Dash - how've you been? Did you like Vin Diesel in Fast and Furious this year? I enjoyed the 1st 2 and this years - Tokyo Drift I could live without.


I actually did enjoy it surprisingly.  I thought it would just be a rehash that would be boring, but was pleasantly surprised when I saw it.
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Re: Hi Bonk
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2009, 02:05:07 am »
Chris, good to see you... remember me?

*snicker*

The biggest issue with Legacy is it's port to PC. It was designed for Consoles, and in that arena, it actually got great reviews!

But it's port to PC, with the absolutely horrendous control schema, brought it's ultimate demise.

Any changes on that front?

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