Topic: The Future of Television

[Bonk]

With ongoing aspect ratio changes and no end to it in sight, this is how I expect TV to look in the future. (Right now I am looking at two crops, I have seen three deep and would not be surprised by four...) It won't be long until you need a twenty foot screen to show a two foot image. You know it's true.

[toasty0]

Before you know it we'll be back to 1.33:1 and raving about it.

[candle_86]

lol well yall can go to that, my TV is still a 4:3 and so is my computer screen. Cathoderay FTW

[Javora]

Cable and Dish companies have found out that people will pay a premium to watch TV show or movie that takes up the entire screen.  It's their new cash cow.

[candle_86]

unless that persion is me lol, I hate LCD and plasma, digital takes away, sutle but it takes away. I can see the color diffrence set an old cathodray tv next to a brand new 2000 dollar LCD the old CRT TV will have crisper more viberant colors and stronger and crisper lines. This is why I wont switch, when HDTV comes to CRT form maybe

[Voidwar]

CRT's pwn and flatscreens look like sh*t compared to them.

We all know this, with our eyes, and then some nerd quotes a stat, and we stop paying attention to the data our eyes are giving us, that the CRT presents a vastly better picture, at all angles.

[Corbomite]

I have an LCD and it looks awesome. You do have to sit right in front of it to get the best picture though. That part still needs work.

[Kreeargh]

unless that persion is me lol, I hate LCD and plasma, digital takes away, sutle but it takes away. I can see the color diffrence set an old cathodray tv next to a brand new 2000 dollar LCD the old CRT TV will have crisper more viberant colors and stronger and crisper lines. This is why I wont switch, when HDTV comes to CRT form maybe

The Days of the CRT are dead i belive. The industry/Govt wants us all to buy new crap to fit their agenda. Make a bigger profit with a lesser product while the other gets to spy on you.

[candle_86]

dead I think not, as long as TV repair shops have older techs working CRT will live. I have a 40in SONY TV, says HDTV as a matter of fact its from 1989 and has a minidin-15 port aka VGA port on it, supports 1600x1200 so I could run 720p easily on it, though 1080p escapes it, only downside is I have to use my computer to do it, but im not getting rid of that TV period, yes it takes 5 grown men to move it, and forget moving it up stairs, but I dont care.

[TAnimaL]

And I heard the Ford Model-T got better gas mileage than any car up til the 90s...

CRTs are the 8-tracks, Betamax, and Kodachrome of TV sets. You can curse them or revel in nostalgia, lament their passing or pi$$ on their graves, but don't kid yourselves, CRTs are on the way out. I'd treat that Sony of yours reaalll nicely, cause it won't last forever. And LCDs, plasmas are just going to get better, and be joined by OLED, LED, and somthing or another we haven't heard of yet...

Aspect ratio changes?? TV got it's 4x3 from 35mm and 16mm movies and that's been standard def. HD is taking the 16x9 from movies since the 70s...

you guys know that most TVs have a "format" button to resize the screen, right? 

[candle_86]

well because to go above 480 I have to hook it up to my computer and I can force any res at that point thats, 720p is just letterboxed on it lmao.

I got it from a High School that upgraded all of there TV's ect to LCD, this one had a sticker on it for computer lab, Im guessing it was used for help turtiouals or some other stuff ran on it, maybe to show a presentation to the class dunno, but I paid 80 bucks for it, cant beat that.

In my bed room is a 32in CRT TV sits on the dresser. And both of these sets have DirectTV on them, just the big one runs off my computer so the directTV comes into my TV input card after I pass it through a certain peice of hardware not 100 leagal i have on the coaxial line.

[Tus-XC]

CRT's pwn and flatscreens look like sh*t compared to them.

We all know this, with our eyes, and then some nerd quotes a stat, and we stop paying attention to the data our eyes are giving us, that the CRT presents a vastly better picture, at all angles.

LED tvs mate

[TAnimaL]

got a little education on "LED LCD" and "OLED" TVs today, and in the process learned about "Laser TV" - I just love the name...

LCD TVs have something akin to a compact flourescent to illuminate the screen; now there are "LED" Tvs which are LCDs with LED illumination - better than the CFL...

And then there's OLED or Organic Light Emitting Diode, which are even better but don't come much bigger than 11'' at the moment...

And there's LaserTV, which uses, yes, you guessed it, frickin' lasers. Supposed to be really nice, but don't come smaller than 63" right now. Mitsubishi has one for about $7000, and when you consider the cost per square inch.... hmm, do I really need a car?

[candle_86]

call me when we go back to shooting microwaves at a lead reinforce glass screen

[Bonk]

you guys know that most TVs have a "format" button to resize the screen, right? 

Windows media center has quite a few options for aspect ratio and zooming/cropping. However, none of them can cope well with material originally 16:9 cropped/letterboxed to fit 4:3, then displayed on 16:9. There seems to be quite a few permuations on how this occurs, but nothing can really be done about it by the viewer. I cannot change the format of the cable signal or air broadcasts provided to me.

Oh I get it, this is where the pay extra for fullscreen broadcasts comes in? No, I will not subscribe to digital cable services for $100 a month just to get to watch something in fullscreen. This is an obvious downgrading of the analog signal to try and sell the new services. There is no need of it. This kind of crap will kill television. I already pay the cable company $109 a month for an internet connection. Another $100 for TV? No way. Not going to happen.

[Javora]

Oh I get it, this is where the pay extra for fullscreen broadcasts comes in? No, I will not subscribe to digital cable services for $100 a month just to get to watch something in fullscreen. This is an obvious downgrading of the analog signal to try and sell the new services. There is no need of it. This kind of crap will kill television. I already pay the cable company $109 a month for an internet connection. Another $100 for TV? No way. Not going to happen.

I think the cable companies are underestimating streaming shows over the internet.  It's this kind of arrogance that IMHO will start to kill off cable TV.  The media outlets don't care and are tired of DVR's cutting the ads.

[Corbomite]

Apparently 3D is the future of TV:


http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/09/18/3D.home.television/index.html

[candle_86]

megavideo, tudu, and hulu are the future of TV

[Bonk]

OMFG...

21:9 

http://gizmodo.com/5628624/brighter-than-before-philips-3d-219-tv-does-films-justice

I may have to revise my diagram... I can easily see video screens in the future being many meters long still using only a portion of the display.

I think I might start designing a 40 foot 96:9 display now to handle the media of the future.

The film industry seems to think we see in a narrow band. While I agree that we are always looking through a frame of some kind, I don't think it is best represented as a horizontal slot. At least not for me.

Perhaps video display will become one dimensional in future? Just a single line of resolution. Do people really see that way? I don't.

[Bonk]

Related question. We are long past the x,y scan of the crt yet still design displays in a 2-d Cartesian fashion.

Why not other tessellation models for flat panel displays? Layers? A hex grid makes sense to me, and even an overall hexagonal display form factor. Though I  expect I am biased from gaming. Other more organic tessellations might make a lot more sense especially when it comes to video compression models and perception.

Initially the math would be more complex, but I think the potential gains are worth exploration. The texturers amongst our modelers might appreciate the concepts best.