Topic: SFB-OP Testing...

[Lear]

First OCI movement is Very expensive via black holes. It is so i can move freely between the 2
groups. also there is nothing like just having that FH-P just laying around to fight in the Neb
Unfortunately there are no FH-P in this one.

[Bonk]

Why not have one of the taunt commands trigger warp?

The EEK scripts already use the voice taunts randomly as voice taunts.

BTW: Do the Andromedans in this use the TRBL / TRBH? IIRC, they weren't armed with them in the original spec file.

Original being stock, OP+ or older version of SFB-OP?

Generally, in SFB-OP Andro ships are armed with either all TRBL or TRBH, not both. Maulers too. Have insane turn modes and speed to make up for lack of Dis Dev. (somewhat - no these are not proper SFB Andros, but they are a fun facsimile)

[Bonk]

Adjusting missionllist (yanking Kar_ePatrol and Met_ED5FleetAction) and racelist (I forgot to make Tigerheart and Syndicate non-playable). Server will be down for a short time.

[Bonk]

OK, server is back up, I did some other updates and setup some backup scripts too. I did not do a db clean, I want to see what happens with no db cleans for a while on this one.

[T-Rex_NT]

If I transfer to Romulan will I lose my ISC ship??

So I guess the basic question is, Can I transfer back and forth from Rom to ISC??

Thanks,

Rex

[Bonk]

If you transfer From ISC to Rom you will still have your ISC ship and it will still work. You will see and purhcase rom ships in the shipyards though.

You can transfer back and forth as much as you like.

Bassically, once testing is complete, we ask that you do not fly for extended periods as one race flying anothers ship...e.g. If you transfer from Fed to Gorn, Buy a gorn ship and trade in your fed one. (and the reverse when transferring back)

It is OK while testing to run ships of multiple races though, have yet to see any funkyness result from it.

Make sense?


On a related note, it is possible to have fleets of greater than three ships on SFB-OP (but still can only supply/repair three in game). Would players like to see this enabled for spare (ensign toast) fleetmembers? Say four or even six ships per player? There's not usually much interest in big fleets so I dont expect that much interest in this possible feature. It is fun though.

[Klingon Fanatic]

That reminds me Bonk... Wasn't there a Romulan Snipe or war eagle that was missing some weapons in this SFB shiplist? IIRC the fix had to be manually added and I don't recall the SFB shiplist being revised.

I have to tinker with some stuff on my PC before I can try this out.

Qapla'

KF

[T-Rex_NT]

Thanks for the clarification,

I want to play the R-WVL, it looks to be a great base buster.

Rex

[Corbomite]

Bassically, once testing is complete, we ask that you do not fly for extended periods as one race flying anothers ship...e.g. If you transfer from Fed to Gorn, Buy a gorn ship and trade in your fed one. (and the reverse when transferring back)

 I don't understand why you would want to restrict that feature... it means we can finally resupply in allied space.

[Julin Eurthyr]

On a related note, it is possible to have fleets of greater than three ships on SFB-OP (but still can only supply/repair three in game). Would players like to see this enabled for spare (ensign toast) fleetmembers? Say four or even six ships per player? There's not usually much interest in big fleets so I dont expect that much interest in this possible feature. It is fun though.

I can see a use for this function, PF squadrons!!!

Remember how Karnak had a seires of missions where the AI helpers given to the player would be under their control via the fleet panel?  Imagine having a PF flotilla (4x PF and a PFS) spawn in under your control every mission you take in your PFL?

This way, the flotilla is "repaired" after every mission.

Of course, the catch is to have the mission spawn in the PFs only if the player has a PFL, and to spawn them in even in fleet draft and multiplayer draft situations...

[Bonk]

Bassically, once testing is complete, we ask that you do not fly for extended periods as one race flying anothers ship...e.g. If you transfer from Fed to Gorn, Buy a gorn ship and trade in your fed one. (and the reverse when transferring back)

 I don't understand why you would want to restrict that feature... it means we can finally resupply in allied space.

You know I was thinking about that, and the reason on The Forge is because of using empire ships in warp doubling pirate slots (picture a Rom BB with warp doubling). But since warp doubling is disabled in SFB-OP it does not matter so much, and you have a good point. Any reason why not to allow it that could be exploited?

[Corbomite]

Bassically, once testing is complete, we ask that you do not fly for extended periods as one race flying anothers ship...e.g. If you transfer from Fed to Gorn, Buy a gorn ship and trade in your fed one. (and the reverse when transferring back)

 I don't understand why you would want to restrict that feature... it means we can finally resupply in allied space.

You know I was thinking about that, and the reason on The Forge is because of using empire ships in warp doubling pirate slots (picture a Rom BB with warp doubling). But since warp doubling is disabled in SFB-OP it does not matter so much, and you have a good point. Any reason why not to allow it that could be exploited?

With wormholes available, the need to build permanent bridges is not so acute. They even become a liability that have to be protected. Large forces can be moved easily, far from home bases. The need to supply in allied space (even if it is only in the space of the race you have chosen to "reenlist" in) seems to be the acute strategic factor now if more "permanant" allied bases are to be established.

I actually thought this was what you were going for once I discovered I kept my old race's ship when transferring and could repair and resupply. The problem with taking territory on the front lines to establish an allied base is that is probably won't last long and re-securing and replacing that base becomes a campaign in itself. 

This has opened up a whole new tactical depth to the meta map. I'm not worried that people will exploit it... I'm hoping they will exploit it!   

[Lear]

OK here is a different one. wanted to "Look up" and see what
was comming up in the next few years? so I go to skirmish and
start looking around and all I see in the CL range is just 1 ship
for Klinks,Fed and Roms weird hunh.

[Corbomite]

OK here is a different one. wanted to "Look up" and see what
was comming up in the next few years? so I go to skirmish and
start looking around and all I see in the CL range is just 1 ship
for Klinks,Fed and Roms weird hunh.

Cycle the Technology option in Skirmish mode to fix that. When you leave the server, but not the game it stays in whatever era you are in no matter what it says in Skirmish mode.

[Corbomite]

Hey Bonk is the I-CAP supposed to be missing?

[Bonk]

Hey Bonk is the I-CAP supposed to be missing?

I must admit I do not recall if it is an SFB ship. (I rarely flew them as we always played strict CnC rules).

It has been a number of years since I have been over this list in detail and I no longer have any SFB materials... well I lie, I found some of our old kit (with our notes) in a comic shop recently. But it's only one captains log edition and one module...

No doubt there are a number of omissions.

I'd kind of like to add the Orion Enclave (though not canon SFB) at some point. I want to take some time soon to look for new "classic" feel models too. But there is this other mod/server I promised to work on... It will be next. Then perhaps a revised SFB-OP.

But please, do let me know if some of the old SFB standards are missing. I would like to update it, who knows maybe for this server. It's just such a large mod to dig into again...

[Corbomite]

AFAIK all ISC ships without I-Torps are Taldren inventions. The ISC didn't show up until late in the general war. Taldren added "earlier era" ships when people pointed out that the ISC couldn't be played in multiplayer until late era. The I-CAP should be in there starting from 2268.

[Capt Jeff]

Thanks for the reference to Canada West.   BB Jones and Skull-n-Bonez would be proud !

The original Storm Season Campaign they put together was the best IMHO.

[Capt Jeff]

Took a Patrol* mission twice in a nebula hex.  Me in a F-DDL, ai F-DDG, and a crippled H-axCV  vs K-F5C and K-G2.

Both times when the aux Hydran ship took it's first weapons fire, everything locked up to the point I had to turn the power off to my computer.

I've taken several of the Patrol* missions before.   Never in a nebula, or with that crippled Hydran aux carrier.

[deadmansix]

 happend to me also,locked me right up,but the ships in my patrol were a F-DN,a hydran THR and a klingon D7C,and a D6V