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One hell of a pilot ....
« on: May 31, 2009, 12:38:43 pm »


Must be seen to be believed.





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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 02:26:36 pm »
Holy crap!......a controled one wing landing...
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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 02:29:34 pm »
Hrm...there a bunch of comments that it was faked..... :huh:
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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009, 02:44:00 pm »
possible fake, but truely who would have tried that the first time to see if you could fly it that way?  I assume people are saying it it fake as it is beyond belief.  If it was fake, there should be more footage of other airshows where it happened, as it isn't worth the cost to make an airplane you can drop a wing off of to only do it once.

Also with the wing designed to come off, other stunts would be very dangerous as the wing couldn't take the stress.

I can believe it did fall off, from the looks of it he was starting to do barrel rolls (they put alot of stress on a plane).
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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 02:50:09 pm »
Lots of debate about this one....but having watched many stunt shows...I can say with a fact that the power to wieght ratio alows thise plane to still maintain flight in stall senarios...

here a link to a guy who did it in an F-15....

for REAL...



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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2009, 02:52:14 pm »
Quote from: KBF-Crim on May 31, 2009, 02:29:34 pm
Hrm...there a bunch of comments that it was faked..... :huh:

I doubt it was faked.

Once he picked up enough air speed, he went full throttle, nose up, and turned his crippled plane into a semi-chopper.

Damn fine job.  He fought for his life and won.

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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2009, 02:56:59 pm »
Quote from: Fedman  NCC-3758 on May 31, 2009, 02:52:14 pm
Quote from: KBF-Crim on May 31, 2009, 02:29:34 pm
Hrm...there a bunch of comments that it was faked..... :huh:

I doubt it was faked.

Once he picked up enough air speed, he went full throttle, nose up, and turned his crippled plane into a semi-chopper.

Damn fine job.  He fought for his life and won.

I think he went to that possition because flying sideways is part of the stuntmans list tricks.  it doesn't use the main wings for lift.  Presence of mind was amazing on that pilot.  Most would just be thinking over and over.  "I'm going to die!"
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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2009, 03:07:57 pm »
Quote from: KBF-Crim on May 31, 2009, 02:50:09 pm
Lots of debate about this one....but having watched many stunt shows...I can say with a fact that the power to wieght ratio allows these plane to still maintain flight in stall senarios...

here a link to a guy who did it in an F-15....

for REAL...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_EXtBEaBbs


best answer on yahoo...

Typically on this type of highly aerobatic small aircraft:

The fuel tank is in fuselage.
They don't use control cables for ailerons. They are controlled by torque tubes operating through a sliding universal joint at the wind join.
Ground shadow shows no right wing.
Wings on this type aircraft are removable, usually held on with one or two bolts and a couple of pins to take the wing pitching moment. The bolts are there to keep the wing from pulling out of the spar tube.
Center of gravity is usually set way aft on these aerobatic aircraft to give quick and high response, around 40% of wing chord. The cg would not move very much with the loss of a wing since it is already distributed fore and aft of the cg.
If a model was used, then it was an exact duplicate of the final full scale airplane.
They use large control surfaces with large throws, thus the ability to do sustained straight and turn knife edge flight (where the wing has no lift at all) using fuselage lift alone.

I cannot say one way or the other if it is fake. I see nothing in the video that would indicate that it is. As far as I know, it has only been filmed once occurring on an RC model.

That being said, if it really happened, I would imagine it would have been all over the news, and the news people would have set up several satellite dishes outside the pilot's house.

Finally, I reckon the pilot got out quickly because of the smell in the cockpit. LOL



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I am a retired Flight Test Engineer for Aerodynamics and Stability/Control plus 45 years of RC flying.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081030140510AAqZPAb&cp=2
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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2009, 03:15:46 pm »

If it was faked, who ever did the video remembered to also eliminate the shadow of the faked missing wing.  LOL

Riiiiight.

Watch it as it moved to a stop and notice the ground.   No shadow.  Because there was no wing.



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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2009, 03:21:40 pm »
here's a guy doing it with an RC plane:

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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 03:24:32 pm »
Quote from: Fedman  NCC-3758 on May 31, 2009, 03:15:46 pm

If it was faked, who ever did the video remembered to also eliminate the shadow of the faked missing wing.  LOL

Riiiiight.

Watch it as it moved to a stop and notice the ground.   No shadow.  Because there was no wing.

I've watched it serval times.....IF it is faked video...it's the best damn job I've ever seen....so many details that you wouldnt see if a wing was there are present from too many angles...you can cleary see the landing gear and all the backround detail that would have needed to be reproduced....
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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2009, 03:27:20 pm »
Quote from: KBF-Crim on May 31, 2009, 03:24:32 pm
Quote from: Fedman  NCC-3758 on May 31, 2009, 03:15:46 pm

If it was faked, who ever did the video remembered to also eliminate the shadow of the faked missing wing.  LOL

Riiiiight.

Watch it as it moved to a stop and notice the ground.   No shadow.  Because there was no wing.

I've watched it serval times.....IF it is faked video...it's the best damn job I've ever seen....so many details that you wouldnt see if a wing was there are present from too many angles...you can cleary see the landing gear and all the backround detail that would have needed to be reproduced....

If they were to have digitally removed the wing, watch the landing, it would have hit the ground how he landed.

I heard of the F-15 when I was in the service.  What I heard was the wide body and the computer adjusts help keep it flying.  (not to mention the high speed)
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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2009, 03:41:53 pm »
Quote from: KBF-Crim on May 31, 2009, 03:24:32 pm
Quote from: Fedman  NCC-3758 on May 31, 2009, 03:15:46 pm

If it was faked, who ever did the video remembered to also eliminate the shadow of the faked missing wing.  LOL

Riiiiight.

Watch it as it moved to a stop and notice the ground.   No shadow.  Because there was no wing.

I've watched it serval times.....IF it is faked video...it's the best damn job I've ever seen....so many details that you wouldnt see if a wing was there are present from too many angles...you can cleary see the landing gear and all the backround detail that would have needed to be reproduced....

Not to mention the adding of trees whizzing past that would have been blocked by the right wing.

So, the guy faked the video better than the pilot flew the faked plane.   :laugh:

You find that all through YouTube.   Geniuses who are smarter than every other viewer.  They can't be fooled.  LOL

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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 03:52:22 pm »
here's a couple of debunk videos -



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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2009, 04:24:55 pm »
Quote from: EmeraldEdge on May 31, 2009, 03:52:22 pm
here's a couple of debunk videos -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72y_qFV2oc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzMXjlBXJeo&feature=related


I have to go with the second one.  watching the main vid over again, you notice a fuzzy image of the craft landing, the hop it does also should have followed over with the weight of a full plane.  I would take it as a RC landing, and overlaying the vid.
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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2009, 06:22:20 pm »
Yep...I beleive it's faked..

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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2009, 07:07:55 pm »

Holy Flying Frauds Batman !!  ROFL

Just read the vid description:

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Aerobatic pilot loses whole wing in flight and lands safely. This guy has so much of the Right Stuff... You might need a change of underwear by the time it's over. (Yes, it's a decently faked bit of viral video.)



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Aw well, thought we had a future Chuck Yeager.

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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2009, 07:55:49 pm »
..just had a thought.

If you dont like the new ST movie, just "consider the video faked".
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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2009, 07:56:13 pm »
Oh I think it's possible Fed...the RC plane shows it could be done with a simular power to wieght ratio....and the guy who landed the F15 with one wing is a fact...and the F15 was put back in service...

No doubt it's a slick vid...
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Re: One hell of a pilot ....
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2009, 08:06:13 pm »
Man, this is old. I've known about it and it's harder than you think to land that thing normally. To land it like that is near impossible for all but the best of pilots. And also, the F-15 is capable of flight with only one wing, heck, you can play tennis on that thing's wings. They are HUGE.
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