Topic: ‘Star Trek’ is popcorn perfection

[The_Joker]

Well, the funny thing is, J.J. obviously did do his homework.  I've been a fan of Star Trek since practically since I was born.  I've been to the theater for opening weekend since STIII.  This is a good movie.  Some of the actors nailed their roles, some could've been better. 

I'm trying to avoid spoilers here, so lets just say that the script definately states that their is a rich history here that can be explored before this movie.

[FPF-DieHard]

Get your heads out of your asses, this moving is f*cking great!

[Grand Master of Shadows NCC37385]

To all those who are complaining about us not liking it having never seen it. Well, I dont have to get shot in the nads to know that I wouldnt enjoy it. 

That's because you can extrapolate the experience of others 'getting shot in the nads'. Making a judgment about something that has not even occured yet strikes me as just too old-lady like.

Having actually been shot, and kicked in the nads, I can "extrapolate" the way it would feel. Since I havent seen the movie (just the trailers and the actors babbling about the movie), let me surmise...

Evill, bald Romulan goes back in time to kill Spock. Cadet Kirk gets some nookie, has at least two fight scenes, gets in a few one-liners, takes command of Enterprise and saves the day.

[The_Joker]

To all those who are complaining about us not liking it having never seen it. Well, I dont have to get shot in the nads to know that I wouldnt enjoy it. 

That's because you can extrapolate the experience of others 'getting shot in the nads'. Making a judgment about something that has not even occured yet strikes me as just too old-lady like.

Having actually been shot, and kicked in the nads, I can "extrapolate" the way it would feel. Since I havent seen the movie (just the trailers and the actors babbling about the movie), let me surmise...

Evill, bald Romulan goes back in time to kill Spock. Cadet Kirk gets some nookie, has at least two fight scenes, gets in a few one-liners, takes command of Enterprise and saves the day.

Actually, nope.  Evil Romulan doesn't go back in time to kill Spock.  I'm not going to get into an argument about your opinion on the movie, but think about the fact that you just got the most critical part of the plot incorrect.  Then wonder what else you might have incorrect....

[Grand Master of Shadows NCC37385]

To all those who are complaining about us not liking it having never seen it. Well, I dont have to get shot in the nads to know that I wouldnt enjoy it. 

That's because you can extrapolate the experience of others 'getting shot in the nads'. Making a judgment about something that has not even occured yet strikes me as just too old-lady like.

Having actually been shot, and kicked in the nads, I can "extrapolate" the way it would feel. Since I havent seen the movie (just the trailers and the actors babbling about the movie), let me surmise...

Evill, bald Romulan goes back in time to kill Spock. Cadet Kirk gets some nookie, has at least two fight scenes, gets in a few one-liners, takes command of Enterprise and saves the day.

Actually, nope.  Evil Romulan doesn't go back in time to kill Spock.  I'm not going to get into an argument about your opinion on the movie, but think about the fact that you just got the most critical part of the plot incorrect.  Then wonder what else you might have incorrect....

Still doesnt change the fact that its just another time travel Trek movie. Cant they get writers with some immagination? Several dozen time travel eps in five Trek series and two time travel movies. Now a third? Aliens go back in time and assimilate, change history of, or blow up Earth or another planet. Enterprise/Defiant/Voyager/NX-01 crew travels back in time to stop aliens. Kirk/Picard/Sisko/Janeway/Archer foil plot of aliens that they are unable to accomplish their dastardly deeds...which means it never happened.

So, to surmise, time travel Trek is about stopping something that never happened. 

[FPF-DieHard]

To all those who are complaining about us not liking it having never seen it. Well, I dont have to get shot in the nads to know that I wouldnt enjoy it. 

That's because you can extrapolate the experience of others 'getting shot in the nads'. Making a judgment about something that has not even occured yet strikes me as just too old-lady like.

Having actually been shot, and kicked in the nads, I can "extrapolate" the way it would feel. Since I havent seen the movie (just the trailers and the actors babbling about the movie), let me surmise...

Evill, bald Romulan goes back in time to kill Spock. Cadet Kirk gets some nookie, has at least two fight scenes, gets in a few one-liners, takes command of Enterprise and saves the day.

Actually, nope.  Evil Romulan doesn't go back in time to kill Spock.  I'm not going to get into an argument about your opinion on the movie, but think about the fact that you just got the most critical part of the plot incorrect.  Then wonder what else you might have incorrect....

Still doesnt change the fact that its just another time travel Trek movie. Cant they get writers with some immagination? Several dozen time travel eps in five Trek series and two time travel movies. Now a third? Aliens go back in time and assimilate, change history of, or blow up Earth or another planet. Enterprise/Defiant/Voyager/NX-01 crew travels back in time to stop aliens. Kirk/Picard/Sisko/Janeway/Archer foil plot of aliens that they are unable to accomplish their dastardly deeds...which means it never happened.

So, to surmise, time travel Trek is about stopping something that never happened. 

You could not be more wrong, the movie was amazing.

[Storvick_XC]

Everyone keeps talking about time travel. Yes there is time travel in the movie but Abrams and Nemoy himself has stated that the events with the Kelvin caused the timeline to switch to an alternate timeline so the TOS as we know it still exsits and this is a new alternate timeline (universe) of what could have happened to the TOS crew.

[Age]

Get your heads out of your asses, this moving is f*cking great!

I can't believe you said that.It did have its stellar moments but I must say I am purist.I will say the special effects were great as well as the acting.

It did look similar to Star Trek Nemesis only taking place in the 23C.That was tribble beside Scotty never would of thought.

[Sirgod]

Exactly Age, I am satisfied with the explanation that is given in the movie.

Still like the original better though, but this was pretty darn good.

Stephen

[FPF-DieHard]

Get your heads out of your asses, this moving is f*cking great!

I can't believe you said that.It did have its stellar moments but I must say I am purist.I will say the special effects were great as well as the acting.

It did look similar to Star Trek Nemesis only taking place in the 23C.That was tribble beside Scotty never would of thought.

What Trek movie was better than this besides Wrath of Khan?

I'm an SFB purist, not a Trek purist.   Trek has so many contradictions and retcons that it's "cannon" just can't be taken seriously.

[Voidwar]

IF you are going to erase the whole trek universe and all the kool that made it up, why bother to call the movie star trek ?

This should have been called random shallow space movie, and left the history of Trek alone.

If you don't stick to canon, you got no business usin the franchise name.

This script sucked balls !

I will give the actors credit for a good effort, and the SFX were satisfying, but the script was GARBAGE !!

Think where they have left this verse . . .

Pike makes a stowaway the First Officer , on a whim ?  VERY VERY THIN.

and now, Kirk is a last minute appointee outsider, instead of the Starfleet B.M.O.C. he actually was.

Scotty was runnin a junkyard ?  Sorry, simply incorrect.

Montgomery Scott was born in Scotland, on Earth in 2222. (TNG: "Relics") He spent part of his life in Aberdeen, once referring to himself as an "old Aberdeen pub-crawler". (TOS: "Wolf in the Fold") He joined Starfleet and began his engineering career in 2241. During his 52-year career in Starfleet, he served on a total of eleven ships, including various freighters, cruisers and starships. (TNG: "Relics")

He also briefly served as an engineering adviser on the freight line between the Deneva colony and the outlying asteroid belts. (TOS: "Operation -- Annihilate!")

He is never going to be the Scotty they need, because in the new timeline, the dude was runnin Sanford and Sons Space Junk.  And How Ham Handed was the insertion of his signiture line ?  Go thru the motions , check the box , ho hum.

You know what this means ?  That Romulan Commander WILL return home with proof of the earth men's weakness.

It means Khan and a shuttle full of supermen are still out there.

It means all vulcans are doomed anyway as soon as they have thier next period.

The Kirk Spock Fight ?  Never happens cuz theres no Vulcan now.

Think of all the hurdles that Kirk made it thru, and all the luck that required, and realize, all those obstacles are now still out there, and we have a vastly LESS competent Kirk, since he was an outsider in this timeline, to deal with them.

This script was a terrible and STUPID idea.  If they wanted Tabula Rasa, they should have started their own damn universe instead of trying to erase one.

[Sirgod]

Ahh, but this is an alternate reality, not that the other was erased. It is still there. Both realities are in existence side by side as it where.

Stephen

[Voidwar]

Yawn.

Why pay any attention to the rebootaverse, when its just going to reboot again then ?

Why bother to follow these stories ?  Isn't the next "reboot" imminent and waiting to wash their relevance away ?

Further, as I said, with the obstacles we already KNOW are out there, how hard do you have to suspend disbelief to watch some less professional newbie luck out the second time thru ?

[Sirgod]

With me personally, not very hard, but I'm just an old hick anyways. The answer is really simple though, Don't watch it, if you don't like it. If it gets rebooted 100 times, just watch what you like. I do that at home all the time anyways, with SOOO Many shows on that god damn idiot box.

Stephen

[Voidwar]

The answer is really simple though, Don't watch it, if you don't like it.

Not really an option for me , was it though ?

I like Star Trek, and this movie came out with Star Trek as the Title. 
It then proceded to erase the history of what was kool about that franchise.

I was bait and switched, and I can't know that until after they got my money.

[AcePylut]

Quite frankly, the movie sucked.  The only thing interesting about it was hearing the actors pull out of some of the old classic lines, or seeing some of the "inside jokes" that only trekkers would get (like Sulu's sword, or the red-suited parachute jumper guy). 

Plot device - Time-travel?  Lame.  I thought we were supposed to watch STAR trek, not Time Trek.  So sick of Time Trek, and that's all that Rodenberry's baby has grown up to be.

Kirk losing a fight?  Ultra lame.  Kirk having to de-throne Spock from the cap'ns chair"?  Lame.

Special Effects:  Lame.  Try holding a scene or a shot for more than 1 billionth of a second, so we can actually SEE what's going on.

This whole movie smacks of incredible "writer, director, producer" laziness.  "Oh I can't come up with a smart, logical, and intersting way to wrap everyting up, so I'll just make up a lame bad-tatoo'ed trench coated romulan that looks nothing like a romulan and have him zip around time."  whatever happened to a classic STORY like TWOK? 

The BEST part of the movie was that the third dude that did the parachute jump was wearing a red-spacesuit.  Ya just knew he was gonna die and it was only a matter of how.

[FPF-DieHard]

You guys are deluded, and 10 million other people agree with me.   This was the best Trek movie since WoK.

[AcePylut]

There was no depth to this movie.  No suspence.  No cool fights.  Special Effects scenes that were designed for 13 year old MTV kids with ADHD.  The villian had practically zero character development - hell Nemesis's alter-picard was more developed than this Nero guy.  Nothing cerebral about the entire movie - no great messages about society's morals imparted...  You could walk into it 5 minutes before the climax and be caught up to speed before 15 seconds had passed.  They even butchered up the Koybashi Maru simulation made Kirks "solution" into a big joke.  Yeah a mouth like that is going to earn him a commendation for his unique solution. 

And really, lets take a cadet fresh out of Star Fleet Academy, a cadet that was on the Fed's brand spanking new flagship without permission, and turn him into the First Officer.... because after all, taht's what you do with your top of the line ships.  Turn it over to a bunch of green recruits fresh out of diapers without experienced mentors for them to follow. 

Just a wholly ridiculous movie. 

I think it was voidwar that said "random space movie" and that is a fitting tribute to what this movie was.... cuz outside of the characters names and some sci-fi technobabble there was nothing Star Trekky about it.

[Age]

Get your heads out of your asses, this moving is f*cking great!

I can't believe you said that.It did have its stellar moments but I must say I am purist.I will say the special effects were great as well as the acting.

It did look similar to Star Trek Nemesis only taking place in the 23C.That was tribble beside Scotty never would of thought.

What Trek movie was better than this besides Wrath of Khan?

I'm an SFB purist, not a Trek purist.   Trek has so many contradictions and retcons that it's "cannon" just can't be taken seriously.

I would say all of the original cast movies as well as First Contact.The reason there is so many contraditions is probably because of the amount of writers involed.This is all the movies to do with the original cast. 

[FRA.E.Kehakoul_XC]

While reading this thread i had all the time a mental picture in my head of some Tibetian monks making a giant  complex mandala from colored sand, and when they completed it  they wiped it away with one fast move with the hand and start a new one,, repeats all the time ,..
weired....