Topic: Votes for the worst ship in the game....

[knightstorm]

The honest to goodness worst ship in SFC (any version to date) is the one that you just captured. This ship is the worst no matter which race owned it, no matter what the hull class is, or anything else, with no exceptions - even if you owned it and recaptured it - simply because you don't get to keep it (unless it was yours to begin with, but then, do you really want to keep it??) after the mission. There's no point in taking home a K-B11 if all the Hegemony's going to do is keep it for themselves. And forget the ROC, Freddy boy - no covert ops in Rommy space for you!

I find that often it takes more skill to capture a relatively intact ship during a mission than it is to blast it down to 1% and capture it, or even to just blow it up. If I take that kind of time and care, delicately carving "MOHAB'S NEW TOY" in the hull with phaser fire, I should at the very least keep said toy.

But no - despite all the (very few) "captured" hulls that do exist in the game as playable, you'll never get your new toy, and thus, capturing that ship may be useful to the current mission (added phasers on your side, meat shield, mission objective, whatever), but afterwards, it becomes the WORST SHIP EVER.

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I'm confused over the discussion over the Miranda like CC - Do you mean the F-CLC as stated or the F-CLM (Miranda Class)? The F-CLC is meant more like a CL leader variant, and not a true CC - Meaning you should find a squadron of CLs, NCLs, maybe a DD or FF hull or two and one of the CLCs. Not meant for "rough and tumble" like a CA or full CC, just a little "rough" and not any "tumble".

As to the Miranda Class (CLM) - This is one of those SFB meets newer-Trek ships that was added for flavor, much like the K'Tinga and F-BCE. The ships were added because they were in the movies and someone decided that they would like to have them in the game. I personally don't care for the "movie" ships, but I find the CLM to be better than the others in most regards. The BCE has retarded phaser arcs and photons on a Klingon ship throw it off balance from the rest of the fleet. With the CLM you get all the perks of the base hull class but with a nice surprise in ability to cover your butt. She opens up many new avenues of tactical combat for the Feds that generally are unavailable in other classes, including the F-BB, and can hang in a firefight a little longer than her counterparts.

Czar "This has become an interesting topic," Mohab

I agree with you for the most part.  However, sometimes the AI does spawn ships which are useful for your mission if captured, ie. a mauler on a base assault.  Grab it, and use it for what it was designed to do.  As for the movie ships, the big thing that I despise about them is the lack of point defense.  CAI (movie Enterprise) is pretty much the CB without the drones and amd, and the forward/360 phaser arcs reversed.  Its a pretty good ship if you're not going against drones, and the extra 360 phasers make it better at phaserboating.  As for the NCM, I do enjoy the rear photon arc, but I really wish it had either more power, or some AMD any day of the week.  I would have to agree with you on the BCE, but I don't think the D7T is that bad.

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

These SFBisms are lost in translation to SFC, and is why the Dancing Pirates aren't liked and the G-DD fights Lyrans suckily.

Czar "G-FCR v F-CLH - I'll have to try that one out," Mohab

P.S. Roychipoqua_Mace - Not trying to offend! Honest![/color]

Nah, no offense taken. Thanks for the info. I have gotten used to the arena-style of SFC, where an empire's ship can face any equal-BPV ship of a different race -- and BPV and era, not geography or historical enemies, are the only limitations.


I guess the Miranda's rear arc is good sometimes, like an "ace in the sleeve." My biggest problem with it is that whenever you would need to point the ship away from the enemy (like avoiding a plasma ship who is intent on getting within range 2.5), the photons would have to be off to have a decent amount of power/speed. So if you can manage slowing down and charging the photons, you don't really need the get-away factor of the rear arc after all. Now, it would be neat to have FH arc photons or something like that, so you could skim overload range, fire, and peel away with less risk.

What does everyone think of the Hydran NCAs/NCCs? The Hydran versions of the CCH have more power, phasers, and hull (but I have to check the list to see) than the NCCs. And things like the H-CHC have those nice split hellbore arcs. Most of the other races at least have NCCs with some advantages over their CCHs, but the Hydran ones aren't even cheaper than their old-school counterparts...

[Lieutenant_Q]

I love taking the NCM against any Romulan ship.  Take the forward phasers offline and keep the aft photons loaded with Proxies.  If he's a cloaker, wait til he decloaks and hit him with a spread of torpedoes.  If he's not a cloaker, you can constantly worry his #1 shield until its down.  At that point, he has to break off.  The BCE has that advantage as well.  While I don't care for the lack of a 360 phasers on it, the Phaser arcs do cover the ship well enough.  And it has even more power to spare.

[Spartan-039]

I do like the the F-BC's they are nice looking and are powerful. I especially like the Bismark varient, alaways have. Maybe it's just because the name is from the German battleship... Oh well.

[Norsehound]

I like the NCM too. The photon versatility is a nice bonus, but I wish it also had some AMD. Interestingly enough the D7T has AMD equipped, and so does the bird of prey (unquestionably the weakest of the movie fleet).

I thought the CAI was a decent ship too. Haven't flown enough of the excelsiors or K'tingas to comment on them.

[knightstorm]

The biggest advantage of the NCM is that the rear firing torps make it easier to hit the plasma ships forward arc without eating plasma.  I find that in fed vs. plasma matchups, it often comes down to their forward shields vs. your aft shields.

[Spartan-039]

I do like the I-BC's especially the advanced bombardment cruisers. They give me over eight type F plasma torpedoes. One broadside is enough to take out many of the smaller ships and it allows me to punch a hole in the shields of even the largest ships.