Topic: Memory

[toasty0]

The human appetite for memory and entertainment is so immense that we seem to want to add every new technology we can; the model of one technology (TV, movies, cyberspace, whatever) replacing older technologies (print, poetry, memorization, etc.) seems to me faulty--it underestimates our ravenous appetite for All of the Above.--Robert Pinsky (1995)

[Sirgod]

I can see that, who here doesn't enjoy the breaking of a spine and the smell of paper while your fore arms slowely drag down with your eyelids.

as long as there is print material, I will always read it and want more of it.

Stephen

[Czar Mohab]

Actually, I try not to break the spine. 

And for those long drives, books on tape/CD do come in handy. Especially when you can switch between the CD and the harccover when you get home.

But in the end, I'd rather go to the thrift store or a garage sale and find an old faded book or three than to download a book and read it on a computer screen.

Czar "Then again, I do have a decent sized footprint in the fanfic area," Mohab

P.S. If you've memorized every line in a movie you saw on TV, would that count as combining the new and the old?

[marstone]

I am one of the worst that I print out almost everything I read from my computer.  I like being able to flick through the papers instead of bouncing around on pages on a screen.  I doodle and make notes as I read tech stuff, just works better.

Also back in the day when I was programming, I don't know, I could search my screen endlessly and still have errors I couldn't find (in my own code, others was easier), but print it out, and bam I can see the error.  Something magical about paper.

[Grand Master of Shadows NCC37385]

I love to read books. Shoot, I love to read anything. I wore out my first set of encyclopedia by the time I was eight. I read an unabridged dictionary one weekend when I was ten years old.

I tend not to buy movies. Once Ive seen it, I can pretty much quote the dialog the second time I watch.

[EmeraldEdge]

Personally I couldn't imagine reading a book on my computer.  I'd like to find a nice comfy spot and hunker down with the real thing.  I read my news online, though.  I don't have much use for the Newspaper anymore, except I'm lacking on local news online. 

[Capt. Mike]

Ahh..and now we come to the modern USAF calibration mode..Almost every calibration procedure is now Web Accessable (WA)..but..because of the firewalls, security, passwords, etc..it can take over a minute to down load a single page of a procedure...

now can the procedure be printed out?  Yes, but by regulations, only for that calibration..then it must be destroyed by shredding..

Could I just read it off the web page?  yes, if I could read the screen from 20' away, since I can't have test equipment that generates signals (RF,audio, optical, etc) that could "possibly" be picked up by the computer...

And to cheese it off..I can't copy maintenance manuals to a CD anymore, because they disabled that function for some unapparent reason...

Your tax dollars at work

(11 years, 7 months until you all support me in retirement)

Mike

[marstone]

I am sure the disabled ability to write the manuals to CD was to prevent someone from sneaking them out.  Much easier to take a CD out then a whole manual.  It has been along time since I was in MI, but that would be my guess.

[toasty0]

I'm sure Mike understands the why, but the why does not mitigate the PIA factor.

[marstone]

I'm sure Mike understands the why, but the why does not mitigate the PIA factor.

Yeah, but the PIA factor is just something you are used to when in the military.  Lots of rules are made for generic reasons that may not be correct for you but you have to follow them.

And at times those who enforce the rules don't even know what they mean.  (have had times I had to correct NSA[national security agency] on a rule or two). 

So you get use to the fact there be reasons, but not always good ones.

[Nemesis]

Sounds like he could use a projector.

[Sirgod]

Sounds like he could use a projector.

Or microfiche.

Another cool think about books. When you are like me, and refuse to leave the nromal world of your home and enter the insane asylum called the outside world and it's cities.

You can simply order the book for the new Star Trek movie, and have it ship when It's released on the 12th.

Stephen

[Czar Mohab]

I think this sums it up:



Czar "I hurt from laughing," Mohab

P.S. Navy was transitioning to "paperless" when I left - which of course meant we used more paper because we printed everything out. Having stuff on laptop was nice, but nothing replaced that ever-so-satisfying I'm-smarter-than-you-Senior-Chief feeling of flipping right to the exact page, paragraph and sentence in question during a heated discussion with my "superiors" and saying, "Told you so!" Not as fun when you have to wait for the PC to load, validate your password and ID, load the right *.doc or whatever and then scroll forever to find it.

[Sirgod]

Good point. To add to that, what happens when the information on getting your power supply going again, is on a CD rom.

Stephen

[FVA_C_ Blade_ XC]

Memory is best enjoy........
Hmmmm,I can not remember what the rest was.....

What was this post about again?

[Czar Mohab]

Good point. To add to that, what happens when the information on getting your power supply going again, is on a CD rom.

Stephen

Some books will never be replaced. Rewitten, revised, added to and subtracted from, but never replaced. Simply because of that.

Czar "There's a procedure for everything, up to and including how to write procedures," Mohab

[Capt. Mike]

Sounds like he could use a projector.

Or microfiche.

Another cool think about books. When you are like me, and refuse to leave the nromal world of your home and enter the insane asylum called the outside world and it's cities.

You can simply order the book for the new Star Trek movie, and have it ship when It's released on the 12th.

Stephen

Stephen, you sound like Wonko the Sane (ref "So Long and Thanks for all the Fish")

Mike..three grankids this morning, and the wife leaves in 45 minutes for a Hunger Meeting (she's been put in charge of reviewing the food pantries and food banks in Omaha for a demographic study)..

Well, It's off to the park soon and let them run it all off

Mike

EDIT:  a footnote...

Wonko the Sane
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Wonko the Sane (John Watson) 
Species:  Human 
Planet of Origin:  Earth Mark II 
Appearances:  So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish; Quandary Phase 
A marine biologist and scientist, the enigmatic John Watson lives in California with his wife and a mysterious glass fishbowl, proudly remaining Outside of the Asylum.

Arthur and his girlfriend Fenchurch visit him in the fourth Hitchhiker's novel.




[edit] The AsylumOne day, after coming across a set of detailed instructions on a set of toothpicks, John Watson, distressed and fearing for the world's sanity, built The Asylum to put it in and help it get better.

The Asylum can be described as a four-walled house turned inside out.

To elaborate: the ceiling turns outwards, the furniture and carpet rests on the coast, the door one would normally believe to lead into a house leads outwards to a lawn with benches and walking paths, an area John calls "Outside the Asylum", in which is mounted the instructions for the toothpicks to discourage going back in it.

[edit] Wonko the SaneJohn created his name for two reasons: to reassure people of his sanity, and to remind himself that a scientist, in having no pre-assumed notions, must be like a child; ("Wonko" was what his mother had called him in his youth).

One of the first reasons for which Wonko's sanity was put into question was his insistence of the existence of green-winged angels on scooters, later revealed to be the guardians of God's Final Message to Creation.

Retrieved from "http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Wonko_the_Sane"

mike

Typo corrected via Toasty

Mike

[toasty0]

she's been put in charge of reviewing the food panties and food banks in Omaha for a demographic study)..

Food panties? A little slip of the tongue, eh Mike?

[Capt. Mike]

she's been put in charge of reviewing the food panties and food banks in Omaha for a demographic study)..

Food panties? A little slip of the tongue, eh Mike?

Yeah..I forgot to roll my "R's"      But I've fixed it..

Mike

[Grand Master of Shadows NCC37385]

she's been put in charge of reviewing the food panties and food banks in Omaha for a demographic study)..

Food panties? A little slip of the tongue, eh Mike?

He's been listening to Larry the Cable Guy talking about edible underwear again.